Mailloux is now the Coach's kid

[netboy65]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

You wouldn't trade away a today player for something possibly three years away. If you thought you had a window open today.

The fact Army claimed this kid ready and gave him opportunity none of his drafted kids get. Shows this excuse for what is it.

Window is openING not quite open yet, so him being ready actually fits for when it’s fully open

[STL fan in MN]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Pronger said it. Then Fowler agreed in an article from JR. MacInnis has said similar things in the past too. It’s a pretty common statement in the NHL.

That said, teams simply can’t play a player 200-300 games to see what they have in a player. A lot of players don’t even have a 300 game career. Even if a player isn’t “comfortable” until 200-300 games played, teams need them to play well while uncomfortable. The leash is generally pretty short in the best league in the world.

[a smell of green grass]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

[STL fan in MN]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

What is even your point? Nobody would get a Power, Hughes, Edvinsson caliber player for Zach Bolduc.

Why not do the same nonsensical exercise for Bolduc? For Mailloux, Montreal got a forward much weaker than others in his draft class! How come he’s not as good as Beniers, McTavish, Johnston, Johnson, Guenther etc? He wasn’t even the Blues’ best winger prospect!!

[Nublues69]

Lol, the Blues dont give F's what anyone thinks about Mailloux or their trade

They really don't. It's why Pronger said what he said. This trade has nothing to do with today. If it doesn't pan out in 3 years then that will suck. But there will also be lindstein, jiricek and others vying for big league time.

Trolls will be trolls. Bots will be Bots. BTW, Bolduc 0 points in last 3 games. Is this me posting that and being happy? No, I want Bolduc to be a star. But if these posters were being as honest as they act like they are being, they would post the streakiness in Bolduc's play. 3 games without a point. The sky is falling.

The gap in performance between Mailloux and Bolduc does not close with Mailloux sitting in the press box.

bolduc sat out 10 games last year seemed to work for him moron

[a smell of green grass]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

What is even your point? Nobody would get a Power, Hughes, Edvinsson caliber player for Zach Bolduc.

Why not do the same nonsensical exercise for Bolduc? For Mailloux, Montreal got a forward much weaker than others in his draft class! How come he’s not as good as Beniers, McTavish, Johnston, Johnson, Guenther etc? He wasn’t even the Blues’ best winger prospect!!

Everyone says that we should wait 2 years to judge to won the draft. This is NOT NEEDED.

Comparing Mailloux to Bolduc is worthless. They play 2 different positions.

ALL THAT WE NEED TO DO IS COMPARE MAILLOUX TO PLAYERS HIS SAME AGE (or less) AND SAME POSITION TO KNOW WHAT HE IS.
On that score, Mailloux is trending DOWN - compared to others in his age/position.

Meanwhile Bolduc is trending up.

Many will say/think that a RHD is more valuable than a W. While that is true, it is also true that....
You win Stanley Cups by have better players in the key positions, not weaker players in the key positions. What is accomplished from putting a WEAK player in a KEY position?!!!! The Answer: It is not a SMALL POSITIVE. It is a BIG NEGATIVE.

[callitwhatyouwant]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

What is even your point? Nobody would get a Power, Hughes, Edvinsson caliber player for Zach Bolduc.

Why not do the same nonsensical exercise for Bolduc? For Mailloux, Montreal got a forward much weaker than others in his draft class! How come he’s not as good as Beniers, McTavish, Johnston, Johnson, Guenther etc? He wasn’t even the Blues’ best winger prospect!!

The Bot doesn't have a point. Bolduc wasn't even the Blues best winger Prospect!!!!! Snuggy, Dvorsky, Neighbours. Why did Montreal want Bolduc instead of them!!!

One of the other posters already said this but it's worth reiterating. Mailloux has to get his games in to get better. The Blues are betting that it's worth eating those games in the immediacy because the team is growing to get the payday later. It's like investing your money in the stock market. Chances are it's going to mature and you are going to see that benefit down the line. But there's also the chance that stock might be worthless. But not owning it is also worthless. The Blues didn't have any RHD prospects that fit in that timeline that they think is the championship window.

This team isn't considered a championship team. Even the players don't talk about that. What they talk about is that they think they can be competitive with the best teams and can scare some people. Mailloux is too good to be playing in the AHL. What better teaching are you going to get than being around guys like Parayko, Fowler, Faulk? You have 3 really solid vets in front of you that can teach you the game.

Also, Bolduc 4 games without a point, -2 during that time. Got 11 minutes last night. Heard Bolduc was mad about his time usage lately 14 minutes and 11 minutes last 2 games. Everyone's talking about it.

[Nublues69]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

smellyassss LOL

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Not picking on Bolduc but he hasnt had a point in 3 games. He came out the gate and was fire. Now he is back to his normal pace.

[Nublues69]

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Just going to leave this here for smellyazzzzz

[callitwhatyouwant]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

smellyassss LOL

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Not picking on Bolduc but he hasnt had a point in 3 games. He came out the gate and was fire. Now he is back to his normal pace.

Bolduc doesn't have a point in 4 games.

[Nublues69]

this trade was going to be a loss for at least next 2-3 years, pending mailloux development


army played long game with trade, time will tell how bad or even the deal is

Exactly.

It should be incredibly obvious Bolduc was going to be the better player this season. He’s more experienced and plays the easier position. Anyone stating the Habs won the trade because Bolduc is better now is simply stating the obvious and missing the point. The Blues are playing the long game here. D-men typically take longer to develop but they’re also generally worth more. That positional value is what bridges the gap between their experience levels.

Either Vitale or Kerber quoted Fowler that it takes 200-300 games for most defensemen to feel comfortable in the NHL.

Pronger said it.

300 games

Are some defenseman better than other defenseman in the NHL? Yes

Do we want the Blues to have better defenseman than what other teams have? Yes

For Bolduc, we got the defenseman that is weaker than many others in his draft class. Mailloux was the 3rd-best defense prospect on Montreal!

Drafted players 2021 (Defense)

Overall Team Player Seasons GP G A TP PIM
#1 Buffalo Sabres Buffalo Sabres Owen Power (D) 5 247 20 93 113 72
#4 New Jersey Devils New Jersey Devils Luke Hughes (D) 4 160 17 80 97 52
#6 Detroit Red Wings Detroit Red Wings Simon Edvinsson (D) 4 109 11 25 36 87
#8 Los Angeles Kings Los Angeles Kings Brandt Clarke (D) 4 109 8 35 43 64
#31 Montréal Canadiens Montréal Canadiens Logan Mailloux (D) 3 12 2 3 5 6

Summary:

Does Mailloux deserve more time? Sure. Of course.
However, let's not overlook the fact that there are plenty of other defenseman his age OR LESS that are already thriving in the NHL, and THE LONGER IT TAKES for Mailloux to "catch up", the less of an impact he will bring. Will he eventually be a NHL RHD? Likely, yes. However, if our RHD is weaker than most in the NHL, is that a positive or a negative? IMO, that is a negative.

smellyassss LOL

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Not picking on Bolduc but he hasnt had a point in 3 games. He came out the gate and was fire. Now he is back to his normal pace.

Bolduc doesn't have a point in 4 games.

ah my mistake. Thanks... just goes to show that smellyazz as per usual is wrong... lol

[a smell of green grass]

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Just going to leave this here for smellyazzzzz

What is more detrimental to a team?

A) A weak 4th-line winger
B) A weak 3rd-line defenseman

I'll leave it there.

[callitwhatyouwant]

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Just going to leave this here for smellyazzzzz

What is more detrimental to a team?

A) A weak 4th-line winger
B) A weak 3rd-line defenseman

I'll leave it there.

So you are saying Bolduc is a weak 4th line winger now? Why are we worried about trading the equivalent of a toropchenko, walker, Joseph etc?

[Snuggyfresh]

Nice smelly backed himself into a corner. Now hopwfully he will dissapear for a bit

[a smell of green grass]

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Just going to leave this here for smellyazzzzz

What is more detrimental to a team?

A) A weak 4th-line winger
B) A weak 3rd-line defenseman

I'll leave it there.

So you are saying Bolduc is a weak 4th line winger now? Why are we worried about trading the equivalent of a toropchenko, walker, Joseph etc?

I'm not saying Bolduc is anything.

I"m saying that WE KNOW MAILLOUX is weak WHEN WE COMPARE HIM to other players his age at his position.

Is Bolduc weak, WHEN WE COMPARE HIM the same way? Maybe. However, it is not as easy of a judgement.

Let's imagine that both are weak. Then what? IMO, you can live with a weak winger a lot more than you can live with a weak defenseman.

[Snuggyfresh]

Why cause you say so...lol nobody respects your opinion cause you are a ratard bro. You know nothing about hockey and you just trollin down the river brah