why all the talk and interest in stars as managers?

[jbrach]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

[Melville]

Lack of analytical thinking skills is why drives most of these suggestions.
That, and a being captive to the marketing campaigns which created the current TOXIC CULTURE.
The past is not a solution, but for many it is a fondness.

[Banner29]

To be fair. In Pujols and Yadis case not only were they super talented but they were also incredibly smart players that didn’t just succeed on talent alone. They knew the game in and out and Yadi basically ran the pitching staff for the duration of his career. Even as a field manager he just knew exactly what was going on at all times. I’m I advocating for them? No. But it’s naive to say they don’t have managerial talent in them just because they were awesome players


Waino was just a dumb idea from a very dumb person. Nothing more

[sikeston bulldog2]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

Being a leader of men is both a learned and human behavior. I’d say being an astute catcher would give Yadi 50 million moments seeing the field as a manager does. I’d bet Yadi has the greater vision. As to total success, lot of that is in the performance of the players.

[Cardinals4Life]

pujols,waino etc who are mentioned here have no experience and the fact is most of the bigger names players have been poor managers...in most cases successful managers have been like larussa and so many others marginal players who didnt have the great talent and had to try to enhance their talents with cerebral abilities..hitting 700 homers has absolutely nothing to do with managing

Being a good manager has nothing to do with playing ability. Guys like Albert and Yadi were great players, yes, but what they possessed was a keen understanding of the game and know the ins and outs of it. That baseball IQ is what made them even better than their natural abilities. Almost certain those 2 will be great managers. Cardinals are absolitely STUPID for keeping Oli another year over either one of these 2.

[Jatalk]

Albert and Yadi are my hero’s. Please don’t put them in position of manager when team is in a rebuild. It’s not fair to their legacy.

Also great players are sometimes the worst coaches. Their expectations are based on their own exceptional level of talent. This can place to high of expectations on good to average players. Of course this is my opinion.

[45s]

Lack of analytical thinking skills is why drives most of these suggestions.
That, and a being captive to the marketing campaigns which created the current TOXIC CULTURE.
The past is not a solution, but for many it is a fondness.

More like an obsession…

[rightthinker4]

Albert and Yadi are my hero’s. Please don’t put them in position of manager when team is in a rebuild. It’s not fair to their legacy.

Also great players are sometimes the worst coaches. Their expectations are based on their own exceptional level of talent. This can place to high of expectations on good to average players. Of course this is my opinion.

Neither Pujols nor Molina will be the Cardinals manager in 2026. That honor goes to Marmol. Bloom has already confirmed Marmol for 2026.

[mattmitchl44]

It seems like some fans latch on to the idea of signing someone like Pujols, Molina, Wainwright, etc. not because they have any rational reason for thinking that they will be some transformational manager, but because signing a "name" like that will help them feel like the Cardinals have "won the offseason" in terms of bragging rights.

It's kind of the same reason as wanting to spend for the sake of spending to sign some expensive "name" FAs even if that isn't going to get them to being better than an 86 or 87 win roster.

[Colotiger]

Yeah, name all the great players who became very good managers. There are very few.

[C-Unit]

To be fair. In Pujols and Yadis case not only were they super talented but they were also incredibly smart players that didn’t just succeed on talent alone. They knew the game in and out and Yadi basically ran the pitching staff for the duration of his career. Even as a field manager he just knew exactly what was going on at all times. I’m I advocating for them? No. But it’s naive to say they don’t have managerial talent in them just because they were awesome players


Waino was just a dumb idea from a very dumb person. Nothing more

Good points on Albert and Yadi. I'm very curious to see how it goes for Pujols. I don't doubt that either can have valuable roles on an mlb staff, but I lean towards Pujols being the one more likely to be a success as a manager. Yadi to me seems cut out more for a pitching coach role, or any role other than the being the main guy. Pujols seems more like the guy that can create good vibes all around, and towards the media as well. I think on the 2022 roster there was an intangible in play of all those young players on the roster (Donovan, Nootbaar, Edman, etc) wanting to pull a little harder for Pujols. I think he will get that out of whatever team he manages. He commands respect, silently, and he is a humble leader. I also think he can see things in players that they don't see in themselves.

Time will tell when it comes to the strategy part. Although, I think that's an interesting part because as much as fans pitter patter about Oli or any other manager in the game, I don't think anyone knows for sure whether what they are complaining about was the manager's decision or something ordered down from the front office...

[Shady]

To be fair. In Pujols and Yadis case not only were they super talented but they were also incredibly smart players that didn’t just succeed on talent alone. They knew the game in and out and Yadi basically ran the pitching staff for the duration of his career. Even as a field manager he just knew exactly what was going on at all times. I’m I advocating for them? No. But it’s naive to say they don’t have managerial talent in them just because they were awesome players


Waino was just a dumb idea from a very dumb person. Nothing more

Good points on Albert and Yadi. I'm very curious to see how it goes for Pujols. I don't doubt that either can have valuable roles on an mlb staff, but I lean towards Pujols being the one more likely to be a success as a manager. Yadi to me seems cut out more for a pitching coach role, or any role other than the being the main guy. Pujols seems more like the guy that can create good vibes all around, and towards the media as well. I think on the 2022 roster there was an intangible in play of all those young players on the roster (Donovan, Nootbaar, Edman, etc) wanting to pull a little harder for Pujols. I think he will get that out of whatever team he manages. He commands respect, silently, and he is a humble leader. I also think he can see things in players that they don't see in themselves.

Time will tell when it comes to the strategy part. Although, I think that's an interesting part because as much as fans pitter patter about Oli or any other manager in the game, I don't think anyone knows for sure whether what they are complaining about was the manager's decision or something ordered down from the front office...

Edmonds is the one I'd really like to see get a chance to manage. He is extremely bright regarding baseball. I feel he would be an outstanding communicator. And would be fine with the press. And, like I indicated, he wouldn't tolerate poor play.

[riff raff]

Lack of analytical thinking skills is why drives most of these suggestions.
That, and a being captive to the marketing campaigns which created the current TOXIC CULTURE.
The past is not a solution, but for many it is a fondness.

More like an obsession…

If anyone knows about obsessions its you
yadi yadi yadi

[woofy25]

Lack of analytical thinking skills is why drives most of these suggestions.
That, and a being captive to the marketing campaigns which created the current TOXIC CULTURE.
The past is not a solution, but for many it is a fondness.

I personally do not feel a manager has big impact on a teams record over 162, especially with the universal DH. That said, the most disproportionate PR move the cardinals can make compared to cost is to bring in yadi or Albert as the Manager.

People who say fans don’t go to games to watch the manager hand out a lineup card are narrow minded. If Pujols was hired, his name would be mentioned every day on sports talk radio, would be mentioned in every article Derrick goold writes along with his picture getting plastered everywhere. It would give fans a warm and fuzzy. It would create a buzz in the air. Unfortunately, the organization is not going to create that with player acquisition. This is the best alternative for a franchise that desperately needs good PR.
Now, if they could combine that with yadi as bench or pitching coach, fans would go crazy. Considering the low attendance, it could increase by at least 20%.

[C-Unit]

To be fair. In Pujols and Yadis case not only were they super talented but they were also incredibly smart players that didn’t just succeed on talent alone. They knew the game in and out and Yadi basically ran the pitching staff for the duration of his career. Even as a field manager he just knew exactly what was going on at all times. I’m I advocating for them? No. But it’s naive to say they don’t have managerial talent in them just because they were awesome players


Waino was just a dumb idea from a very dumb person. Nothing more

Good points on Albert and Yadi. I'm very curious to see how it goes for Pujols. I don't doubt that either can have valuable roles on an mlb staff, but I lean towards Pujols being the one more likely to be a success as a manager. Yadi to me seems cut out more for a pitching coach role, or any role other than the being the main guy. Pujols seems more like the guy that can create good vibes all around, and towards the media as well. I think on the 2022 roster there was an intangible in play of all those young players on the roster (Donovan, Nootbaar, Edman, etc) wanting to pull a little harder for Pujols. I think he will get that out of whatever team he manages. He commands respect, silently, and he is a humble leader. I also think he can see things in players that they don't see in themselves.

Time will tell when it comes to the strategy part. Although, I think that's an interesting part because as much as fans pitter patter about Oli or any other manager in the game, I don't think anyone knows for sure whether what they are complaining about was the manager's decision or something ordered down from the front office...

Edmonds is the one I'd really like to see get a chance to manage. He is extremely bright regarding baseball. I feel he would be an outstanding communicator. And would be fine with the press. And, like I indicated, he wouldn't tolerate poor play.

Nah, I think Edmonds is good for managing a farm in Tennessee

[Banner29]

Yeah, name all the great players who became very good managers. There are very few.

“Albert, you interviewed very well, we really like your vision going forward from a managerial standpoint and what we think you can bring to this team. Your understanding of the game and the way we believe you can lead a locker room is a confidence we haven’t yet to experience with any other candidate.

Unfortunately not a lot of great players have become good managers, so we’re gonna pass, sorry”