Kirby should try and watch a little film

Got an opinion about the Tigers? Let's hear it.

[Complete Mizzou coverage on STLtoday.com]

Moderator: STLtoday Forum Moderators

hdhntr148
Forum User
Posts: 518
Joined: 29 May 2024 04:57 am

Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by hdhntr148 »

as he has totally regressed even from the awful year he had last. Doesn't seem to have a plan when he KNOWS going in his average at best Oline is going to get destroyed by the other very good DL. Doesn't adjust much during games and get his outstanding RB duo out in space and having secondary try and tackle them. Maybe try and do play action on goal line and actually Pass into EZ? To your very good receiver group?

Saw a couple of SEC shows where they are wondering what happened to him as he was considered one of bright up and comers but has proven to be just a guy and is NOT using his assets to best advantage. problem is Eli sucked worse than he did in his years as playcaller, everything was sideways or behind the LOS so not sure together they can figure this out.

where are the long throws to middle of field with Speedy and the freshman? Have seen quite a few plays where Coleman is doing deep slant and is open and isn't targeted. Would love to see a really good playcalled like Kiffin with these tools to deploy, would really be something. Manning and Speedy have become reliable mid range receivers just need to be targeted more. Ignoring your massive and outstanding TE is not winning formulae either.

Sorry to keep beating this dead horse but if someone simply replaying game video can see all this why can't a whole offensive staff with a week to prepare and many hours of watching tape can see this why can't the vastly overpaid dudes not? as I have said football is a simple game of matchups and IF they do X you do Y. does drive me crazy to see how awful KM is. Do your dang job and COACH up your QB and put him in best position to excel. Beau is regressing each game NOT getting better which makes zero sense.
dhsux
Forum User
Posts: 3495
Joined: 23 May 2024 17:18 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by dhsux »

Just for starters, with Hardy and Roberts at your disposal, hope to never again see an empty backfield on third and short.
Red Bird Classic
Forum User
Posts: 651
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:52 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by Red Bird Classic »

hdhntr148 wrote: 20 Oct 2025 08:27 am Beau is regressing each game NOT getting better which makes zero sense.
It makes perfect sense if you watch our opponents defense.

Teams know the Tigers' strength is running the ball, so they're loading the box with 8 guys, taking away the run, and daring Pribula to beat them over the top.

He can't.

Penn State had Pribula for years and kept him in a back up/wild cat role. Now you know why.

College coaches love to watch film so expect more of the same.
dhsux
Forum User
Posts: 3495
Joined: 23 May 2024 17:18 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by dhsux »

Red Bird Classic wrote: 20 Oct 2025 09:09 am
hdhntr148 wrote: 20 Oct 2025 08:27 am Beau is regressing each game NOT getting better which makes zero sense.
It makes perfect sense if you watch our opponents defense.

Teams know the Tigers' strength is running the ball, so they're loading the box with 8 guys, taking away the run, and daring Pribula to beat them over the top.

He can't.

Penn State had Pribula for years and kept him in a back up/wild cat role. Now you know why.

College coaches love to watch film so expect more of the same.
You needn't abandon the run. Boxed or not you force the run and it will be successful enough with the backs Missouri has. STAY WITH IT.

And then you mix and run option plays that utilize short passes for guys in the flat....including Roberts out of the back field...but keep it simple and downfield will open in due time.

Pribula's arm can help win this game if it is employed properly and not read like a book.
Red Bird Classic
Forum User
Posts: 651
Joined: 23 May 2024 12:52 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by Red Bird Classic »

dhsux wrote: 20 Oct 2025 09:40 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 20 Oct 2025 09:09 am
hdhntr148 wrote: 20 Oct 2025 08:27 am Beau is regressing each game NOT getting better which makes zero sense.
It makes perfect sense if you watch our opponents defense.

Teams know the Tigers' strength is running the ball, so they're loading the box with 8 guys, taking away the run, and daring Pribula to beat them over the top.

He can't.

Penn State had Pribula for years and kept him in a back up/wild cat role. Now you know why.

College coaches love to watch film so expect more of the same.
You needn't abandon the run. Boxed or not you force the run and it will be successful enough with the backs Missouri has. STAY WITH IT.

And then you mix and run option plays that utilize short passes for guys in the flat....including Roberts out of the back field...but keep it simple and downfield will open in due time.

Pribula's arm can help win this game if it is employed properly and not read like a book.
Down field throws were available Saturday and against Bama. Both teams were loading the box and covering the short stuff.

But Pribula is not a good passer. He often doesn't see the open man. There must have been a half dozen times Saturday when receivers were wide open down field and Pribula didn't see them.

When he does find the right receiver downfield, he is either late of just not accurate with his throws. I have yet to see him make a good "deep" throw.

There's a reason Pribula couldn't start for Penn State. And it's not because their coaches were idiots.
boulanger
Forum User
Posts: 419
Joined: 31 May 2024 17:59 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by boulanger »

"But Pribula is not a good passer. He often doesn't see the open man. There must have been a half dozen times Saturday when receivers were wide open down field and Pribula didn't see them."

this

Pribula doesn't see the whole field. gets nervous. fixes on a receiver. throws late/high/behind.

he seems to do better on quick slants that don't require checking down. he's more accurate on the quick, short throws. he was effective with those throws later in the game.
Red7
Forum User
Posts: 3568
Joined: 18 Dec 2018 18:09 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by Red7 »

Deep outs and deep posts, as well as double move patterns take longer than the OLine is providing or that Pribula has the patience for. However, a go or fly pattern doesn’t really take that much time. You just throw it as far as you can and let Johnson or Manning go after it. You may get lucky and get a quick six or it may be incomplete. Either way, it’ll loosen up the defense, give them something to think about and sets up the hitch pass. Also the WR screen. Circle patterns to the backs also can help. Both Roberts and Hardy have shown the ability to get down the field and catch the ball. That same bootleg pass 10 times a game doesn’t work.
woofy25
Forum User
Posts: 1434
Joined: 23 May 2024 14:44 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by woofy25 »

There have been multiple comments in the past week about Kirby Moore scheme. I believe last year was a really bad year for him, but he has gotten better this season. Some of the criticism is contradictory. On one hand, there is acknowledgement that the OLine pass blocking is bad, and on the other, there is criticism that Missouri doesn't take deep shots.
I've also seen people criticizing Moore's scheme and literally say Receivers are open but not targeted. How in the heck is that Kirby's fault? His job is to devise a plan for receivers to get open. If they don't get the ball thrown to them, wouldn't that be on the QB?

The contradictions are wild.

The few screens that were called against Auburn worked. They need to incorporate that more into the "passing" game. Olugbode and Roberts need more snaps.

They also need better play action from Pribula. When he does it, he often turns to the opposite direction of the RB, fooling no one. Even when he does turn the right away, there is no real effort to disguise the play. Either run PA with conviction or don't run it.
11WSChamps
Forum User
Posts: 3489
Joined: 23 May 2024 13:35 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by 11WSChamps »

What were realistic expectations when Pribula was named the starter?

Came from a top program (at least at the time) that wasn't known for a prolific passing game.

Wasn't recruited as a can't miss guy and more about his legs than his arm.

So coming into a new and more competitive conference with new receivers, new OC, new system, etc. how did anyone believe there wasn't going to be bumps along the way?

Pribula may or may not eventually be good enough in getting the team where it wants to go but not being a pocket passer as a strength how is this supposed to work in a passing game that hopefully can make explosive plays?

That's where coaching and scheme come into play and why Drinkwitz insists that like with Cook, Pribula needs more reps, more experience.

I thought all things considered coming off a tough loss Pribula was better and the third down conversion in the second OT under intense pressure had to be a confidence builder as it led to the winning score.

The question a fan would have is will he and the coaching improve enough in time win the games they have to win to make the playoff tournament?

I believe Vanderbilt is the toughest game left on the schedule given the venue, Vandy's momentum and its QB.
winonsports
Forum User
Posts: 2020
Joined: 26 Jun 2024 12:49 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by winonsports »

What were realistic expectations when Pribula was named the starter?
That he would lead Mizzou to a 6-1 record heading into the Vanderbilt game.
TheMajicMan
Forum User
Posts: 191
Joined: 30 May 2024 12:15 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by TheMajicMan »

I have said this before and I will try this again! This is not Kirby Moore's offense. I promise you that this is Drink's scheme! When Kirby took over Mizzou's offense 2 years ago his scheme was very innovative and exciting. Cook was looking good in it and the wrs were clowning along with the running game. Halfway through the season 2 years ago the offense went back to looking conservative. Drink in an interview came out and said that he took back over the scheme because the offense was scoring too quick. I promise you this! I am not a Drink fan (I didn't have to admit this) I rather see Kirby Moore as our head coach and watch the offense take off again. This offense has been stale and conservative the last year and a half because Drink took over the scheme.
winonsports
Forum User
Posts: 2020
Joined: 26 Jun 2024 12:49 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by winonsports »

I am not a Drink fan (I didn't have to admit this)
No you didn't majic. It's been quite obvious you have been wrong about him for five years running now.
TheMajicMan
Forum User
Posts: 191
Joined: 30 May 2024 12:15 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by TheMajicMan »

2 winning seasons out of 5. Come get him Florida.
winonsports
Forum User
Posts: 2020
Joined: 26 Jun 2024 12:49 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by winonsports »

winonsports wrote: 20 Oct 2025 12:12 pm
I am not a Drink fan (I didn't have to admit this)
No you didn't majic. It's been quite obvious you have been wrong about him for five years running now.
2 winning seasons out of 5.
And yet Drink is 19 games over .500 at Mizzou and 30 games overall as a HC.
onemizzou
Forum User
Posts: 308
Joined: 23 Sep 2024 08:51 am

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by onemizzou »

Red Bird Classic wrote: 20 Oct 2025 10:11 am
dhsux wrote: 20 Oct 2025 09:40 am
Red Bird Classic wrote: 20 Oct 2025 09:09 am
hdhntr148 wrote: 20 Oct 2025 08:27 am Beau is regressing each game NOT getting better which makes zero sense.
It makes perfect sense if you watch our opponents defense.

Teams know the Tigers' strength is running the ball, so they're loading the box with 8 guys, taking away the run, and daring Pribula to beat them over the top.

He can't.

Penn State had Pribula for years and kept him in a back up/wild cat role. Now you know why.

College coaches love to watch film so expect more of the same.
You needn't abandon the run. Boxed or not you force the run and it will be successful enough with the backs Missouri has. STAY WITH IT.

And then you mix and run option plays that utilize short passes for guys in the flat....including Roberts out of the back field...but keep it simple and downfield will open in due time.

Pribula's arm can help win this game if it is employed properly and not read like a book.
Down field throws were available Saturday and against Bama. Both teams were loading the box and covering the short stuff.

But Pribula is not a good passer. He often doesn't see the open man. There must have been a half dozen times Saturday when receivers were wide open down field and Pribula didn't see them.

When he does find the right receiver downfield, he is either late of just not accurate with his throws. I have yet to see him make a good "deep" throw.

There's a reason Pribula couldn't start for Penn State. And it's not because their coaches were idiots.
It's easy to "see" open receivers from your couch on replay. Less so when you're being hunted by 300 pound DTs and blazing fast DEs and LBs with anger management issues. I'm not saying Pribula doesn't have his faults and has missed some open receivers but Pribula was throwing dimes into tight coverage early in the season, not sure what's going on with him now. Seems to me that he has lost some confidence and it's up to the coaching staff to take a step back and work to help him regain that confidence.
3rd base fan
Forum User
Posts: 43
Joined: 29 May 2024 12:37 pm

Re: Kirby should try and watch a little film

Post by 3rd base fan »

How about those 3 qb sweeps around end in a row with no running back option that gained nothing all 3 times. Seems like a lot indecisive about play calling. Always snapping ball with less than 2 seconds.
Post Reply