Snuggerud

[Old_Goat]

Although he’s only had a cup of coffee, he needs to learn how to impact the game when not hitting the scoresheet. Did he have any of that in him before?

He looks intimidated.

He looked scared in the Jets series too.

He doesn't look scared nor intimidated. A good example of those would be Petro backing away from Joe Thornton after he nearly ended David Perron's career with the head shot after exiting the penalty box as well as Petro cowering from Jamie Benn when he sat on Petro's face.
Snuggerud hangs around the net knowing that he could get hammered, that's why he scores on rebounds. Petro avoided protecting the crease and only resorted to dangerous swinging of a 4 foot long stick to injure opponents at a safer distance for him.

[Tony Palazzolo]

He looks like a completely different player this year. The summer did wonders for him. His skating stride is better, he looks more confident with the puck and he looks stronger. He always had the shot, but now he should be able to put himself in better position to use that shot.

[theograce]

Although he’s only had a cup of coffee, he needs to learn how to impact the game when not hitting the scoresheet. Did he have any of that in him before?

He looks intimidated.

He looked scared in the Jets series too.

He doesn't look scared nor intimidated.

I think he does. He was definitely scared and acted it when Stanley told him he’s going to rip him apart. He wouldn’t even look at him. Hoping he develops some pushback. He will need it. We have some softer core players right now.

[seattleblue]

Although he’s only had a cup of coffee, he needs to learn how to impact the game when not hitting the scoresheet. Did he have any of that in him before?

He looks intimidated.

He looked scared in the Jets series too.

He doesn't look scared nor intimidated. A good example of those would be Petro backing away from Joe Thornton after he nearly ended David Perron's career with the head shot after exiting the penalty box as well as Petro cowering from Jamie Benn when he sat on Petro's face.
Snuggerud hangs around the net knowing that he could get hammered, that's why he scores on rebounds. Petro avoided protecting the crease and only resorted to dangerous swinging of a 4 foot long stick to injure opponents at a safer distance for him.

Bleeder did a lot of trolling for a long time, zero of it involving me because I wasn't posting here, but I observed he was trying to find ways to end it/call it quits and found that difficult, but he managed to get people to say this stuff about Petro, and it cracked the door open. Because to someone like me I see the total bad faith in this reply and so it acts as an illustration that everybody doing Petro ridicule is also acting in bad faith, not just the official story where one guy is bad and the torchbearers are good. That allowed me to see him as a frustrated contrarian willing to battle 15 people online, maybe in dirty ways, but it is this constant way you guys have of ridiculing Alex Pietrangelo, who was a magnificent player for this franchise in actuality, is what made me treat him like a person instead of a troll, right from the outset. I chose to do it. That very first conversation I had with him where you were all convinced I was him was a HELL of a lot more dicey than you realize. Only he and I (and the handful of dual site posters who knew immediately those first few weeks before this happened that I was not him) realize it. It could have gone sideways but I refused to let it. I understood I didn't want to be consumed by back and forth, because if he and I wanted to find hard differences we can find them ... all of us can do that if we put our attention there. But why? There's so much of it everywhere already. It's common, it's a boring waste of time and patterns of attention. I knew by the way before I chose to interact, that I was going to run afoul of the people who are furious with the guy, for a long time. But in order to contribute successfully I needed to do it. In context, someone like MN (decades of mutual respect) and kimzey (decades of interaction & mutual frustration) can appreciate the thought that went into this choice. I actually figured I could build bridges of reasonability to talk to a person who clearly puts a ton of attention on hockey and talking about it, that's what we do here in this space. The other guy, the smell of divorced dad, who I have chosen a whole different tactic with, that is not what we have, there is no attention on hockey that's genuine there.

[Old_Goat]

Although he’s only had a cup of coffee, he needs to learn how to impact the game when not hitting the scoresheet. Did he have any of that in him before?

He looks intimidated.

He looked scared in the Jets series too.

He doesn't look scared nor intimidated. A good example of those would be Petro backing away from Joe Thornton after he nearly ended David Perron's career with the head shot after exiting the penalty box as well as Petro cowering from Jamie Benn when he sat on Petro's face.
Snuggerud hangs around the net knowing that he could get hammered, that's why he scores on rebounds. Petro avoided protecting the crease and only resorted to dangerous swinging of a 4 foot long stick to injure opponents at a safer distance for him.

Bleeder did a lot of trolling for a long time, zero of it involving me because I wasn't posting here, but I observed he was trying to find ways to end it/call it quits and found that difficult, but he managed to get people to say this stuff about Petro, and it cracked the door open. Because to someone like me I see the total bad faith in this reply and so it acts as an illustration that everybody doing Petro ridicule is also acting in bad faith, not just the official story where one guy is bad and the torchbearers are good. That allowed me to see him as a frustrated contrarian willing to battle 15 people online, maybe in dirty ways, but it is this constant way you guys have of ridiculing Alex Pietrangelo, who was a magnificent player for this franchise in actuality, is what made me treat him like a person instead of a troll, right from the outset. I chose to do it. That very first conversation I had with him where you were all convinced I was him was a HELL of a lot more dicey than you realize. Only he and I (and the handful of dual site posters who knew immediately those first few weeks before this happened that I was not him) realize it. It could have gone sideways but I refused to let it. I understood I didn't want to be consumed by back and forth, because if he and I wanted to find hard differences we can find them ... all of us can do that if we put our attention there. But why? There's so much of it everywhere already. It's common, it's a boring waste of time and patterns of attention. I knew by the way before I chose to interact, that I was going to run afoul of the people who are furious with the guy, for a long time. But in order to contribute successfully I needed to do it. In context, someone like MN (decades of mutual respect) and kimzey (decades of interaction & mutual frustration) can appreciate the thought that went into this choice. I actually figured I could build bridges of reasonability to talk to a person who clearly puts a ton of attention on hockey and talking about it, that's what we do here in this space. The other guy, the smell of divorced dad, who I have chosen a whole different tactic with, that is not what we have, there is no attention on hockey that's genuine there.

I appreciate your reply. You make very good points, and in particular the difference between the two most provocative posters, in that this one does offer good and fair insight many times. So, I'll accept the opinion that my reply was likely not a completely accurate interpretation of Petro's value and play, and won't argue about characterizing it as bad faith reply.
However, multiple incidents (not by you) of characterizing the citizens/fans of this City in a derogatory manner, ignorantly utilizing what is indeed considered by some as an ethnic slur in the process, and spreading rumors about people, twisting the narrative, or telling anyone "so what you are really saying is...," mocking someone whom has struggled with addiction, or impugning the character of someone whom has paid their debt to society for a poor judgment & resulting harmful act. Those are not just differences of opinion, but are intolerable and not to be ignored.
For the record, I have never indicated nor thought that you nor anyone else is also some other poster. So, no I am not in your category of "you all were convinced." That's okay, I can understand your point and why you worded it that way. I've followed this forum since it was first started, possibly before some on here were even born? I would see references to a "Bleedr," etc., had no idea what people were talking about (still don't know), and move on. I would read the back & forth of various posters. I had no idea who/how/why of the background in some of the dialogue. I figured in some cases they were guys in the St. Louis area whom knew each other from playing either school or senior men's hockey. I've never bothered to try and figure out whom they are, or are not. When my bucket becomes full with their [nonsense], then I just pour it right back onto them.
I do want to make sure that you know I have a high opinion of your postings. I sincerely do appreciate the thought that you put into your above post, and I have taken your assessment of my reply to heart.

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

That sweet guys. You made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

[DawgDad]

That sweet guys. You made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Dating myself, but when you guys get all warm and fuzzy it conjures visions of The Trouble with Tribbles.

[TAFKAP]

Although he’s only had a cup of coffee, he needs to learn how to impact the game when not hitting the scoresheet. Did he have any of that in him before?

He looks intimidated.

He looked scared in the Jets series too.

He doesn't look scared nor intimidated. A good example of those would be Petro backing away from Joe Thornton after he nearly ended David Perron's career with the head shot after exiting the penalty box as well as Petro cowering from Jamie Benn when he sat on Petro's face.
Snuggerud hangs around the net knowing that he could get hammered, that's why he scores on rebounds. Petro avoided protecting the crease and only resorted to dangerous swinging of a 4 foot long stick to injure opponents at a safer distance for him.

Bleeder did a lot of trolling for a long time, zero of it involving me because I wasn't posting here, but I observed he was trying to find ways to end it/call it quits and found that difficult, but he managed to get people to say this stuff about Petro, and it cracked the door open. Because to someone like me I see the total bad faith in this reply and so it acts as an illustration that everybody doing Petro ridicule is also acting in bad faith, not just the official story where one guy is bad and the torchbearers are good. That allowed me to see him as a frustrated contrarian willing to battle 15 people online, maybe in dirty ways, but it is this constant way you guys have of ridiculing Alex Pietrangelo, who was a magnificent player for this franchise in actuality, is what made me treat him like a person instead of a troll, right from the outset. I chose to do it. That very first conversation I had with him where you were all convinced I was him was a HELL of a lot more dicey than you realize. Only he and I (and the handful of dual site posters who knew immediately those first few weeks before this happened that I was not him) realize it. It could have gone sideways but I refused to let it. I understood I didn't want to be consumed by back and forth, because if he and I wanted to find hard differences we can find them ... all of us can do that if we put our attention there. But why? There's so much of it everywhere already. It's common, it's a boring waste of time and patterns of attention. I knew by the way before I chose to interact, that I was going to run afoul of the people who are furious with the guy, for a long time. But in order to contribute successfully I needed to do it. In context, someone like MN (decades of mutual respect) and kimzey (decades of interaction & mutual frustration) can appreciate the thought that went into this choice. I actually figured I could build bridges of reasonability to talk to a person who clearly puts a ton of attention on hockey and talking about it, that's what we do here in this space. The other guy, the smell of divorced dad, who I have chosen a whole different tactic with, that is not what we have, there is no attention on hockey that's genuine there.

Sorry, I don't buy it. That dude talked about masturbating to Jake Allen, when he first got to the NHL "Jakin' It" was his quote de jour. Then he talked about wanting to have Petro's babies. He talks something like sense about the NHL so rarely you have to write it off as "The sun shines on a sleeping dogs (donkey) at some point in the day". I'm not a therapist, nor do I care to be part of his support system. The mods have told him to (bleep) off so many times I was convinced for a while he had to work for the Post. To misquote another crazy SOB, "Ignore now, Ignore tomorrow, Ignore forever".

[TAFKAP]

That sweet guys. You made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside.

Dating myself, but when you guys get all warm and fuzzy it conjures visions of The Trouble with Tribbles.

Please stop quoting that (Obnoxious person) too while we're at it.

[dhsux]

Although he’s only had a cup of coffee, he needs to learn how to impact the game when not hitting the scoresheet. Did he have any of that in him before?

He looks intimidated.

He looked scared in the Jets series too.

He doesn't look scared nor intimidated. A good example of those would be Petro backing away from Joe Thornton after he nearly ended David Perron's career with the head shot after exiting the penalty box as well as Petro cowering from Jamie Benn when he sat on Petro's face.
Snuggerud hangs around the net knowing that he could get hammered, that's why he scores on rebounds. Petro avoided protecting the crease and only resorted to dangerous swinging of a 4 foot long stick to injure opponents at a safer distance for him.

Bleeder did a lot of trolling for a long time, zero of it involving me because I wasn't posting here, but I observed he was trying to find ways to end it/call it quits and found that difficult, but he managed to get people to say this stuff about Petro, and it cracked the door open. Because to someone like me I see the total bad faith in this reply and so it acts as an illustration that everybody doing Petro ridicule is also acting in bad faith, not just the official story where one guy is bad and the torchbearers are good. That allowed me to see him as a frustrated contrarian willing to battle 15 people online, maybe in dirty ways, but it is this constant way you guys have of ridiculing Alex Pietrangelo, who was a magnificent player for this franchise in actuality, is what made me treat him like a person instead of a troll, right from the outset. I chose to do it. That very first conversation I had with him where you were all convinced I was him was a HELL of a lot more dicey than you realize. Only he and I (and the handful of dual site posters who knew immediately those first few weeks before this happened that I was not him) realize it. It could have gone sideways but I refused to let it. I understood I didn't want to be consumed by back and forth, because if he and I wanted to find hard differences we can find them ... all of us can do that if we put our attention there. But why? There's so much of it everywhere already. It's common, it's a boring waste of time and patterns of attention. I knew by the way before I chose to interact, that I was going to run afoul of the people who are furious with the guy, for a long time. But in order to contribute successfully I needed to do it. In context, someone like MN (decades of mutual respect) and kimzey (decades of interaction & mutual frustration) can appreciate the thought that went into this choice. I actually figured I could build bridges of reasonability to talk to a person who clearly puts a ton of attention on hockey and talking about it, that's what we do here in this space. The other guy, the smell of divorced dad, who I have chosen a whole different tactic with, that is not what we have, there is no attention on hockey that's genuine there.

Since you kind of mentioned others here, I'd like to respond.

I never thought you were him, I believe a handful of posters may have.

Appreciate the explanation and your rationale given to your approach but it is just not an accurate basis on a number of key fronts, important fronts, in my own opinion.

I don't care to get into him with you for a number of reasons having nothing to do with you but you have him in a place in mind where I certainly don't see him, now or then. Fool me once, been there.

Regarding Petro, whom I have criticized for being soft and near cowardly, I sincerely do believe I have a better and far more honest understanding of him as a hockey player than the weird, childish, very creepy over-the-top God like persona that he has put forth here in every ones face for I don't know how many years. You say Smelly is bad.....we had long periods of times here...many many....with long periods of Petro trolling that had an edge to it far worse than what Smelly does here, which is bad by itself.

For me, Petro was a great and talented player but he never bled Blue in any classic sense. Never a fave of mine but grateful to him for helping this team win a Cup as a Blue. His departure did not surprise me in the least and I call that insight. Where I am negative on him I have legit reasons of my own totally separate from the Petro troll. He's been successful bringing them out, where I may normally say nothing, but I'll stand by my responses regarding that guy as a player.

[roadkillIL]

This is one unique Snuggerud thread! 5 or so posts and into the swamp we go.....but really, when I seen the topic poster ID --- bout what I expected.

[blues2112]

This is one unique Snuggerud thread! 5 or so posts and into the swamp we go.....but really, when I seen the topic poster ID --- bout what I expected.

Snuggerud showed some moxie on that rebound goal, fighting off the 6'7, 240-pound defender in the slot and crease. Impressive!

Specific to your swamp reference, despite the Blues impressive win, of the 14 topics that fit on my BluesTalk splash screen, only two are positive, six are neutral (PTS, GDT, etc.) and six negative.

[b-a-a-a-rclay]

This is one unique Snuggerud thread! 5 or so posts and into the swamp we go.....but really, when I seen the topic poster ID --- bout what I expected.

Snuggerud showed some moxie on that rebound goal, fighting off the 6'7, 240-pound defender in the slot and crease. Impressive!

Specific to your swamp reference, despite the Blues impressive win, of the 14 topics that fit on my BluesTalk splash screen, only two are positive, six are neutral (PTS, GDT, etc.) and six negative.

Snuggerud is playing really well. He's played about 20 NHL games. Anyone criticizing him as a player in any respect at this point is just looking for attention of course. As far as negative threads go, Somebody started 4 of them the day after the loss to chicago, but he typically goes silent after wins, so we will get a temporary break most likely ... while he licks his wounds from a really nice Blues win last night.

[moose-and-squirrel]

He's like Soupy. But Soupy would drop the mitts from time to time.

Soupy? Jim Campbell?

[Harry S Deals]

More stupid non sense it's attention seeking for the sake of attention seeking

Blues win a big game but Buch sucks
Snuggerud is producing at 21 but he isn't a tough guy
Blues don't draft well but Bolduc was untouchable

Blah blah blah the ignore button fixes all this

[keithinwr]

Man. I've sent some stupid [shirt] from you over and over, but you must be extra lonely tonight. He's getting high praise from every direction. From, you know, people who know their [shirt].

“I thought he was the best player on the ice for us tonight. He's dynamic, he's elite, a high hockey IQ. That first shot is pretty high-end. He knows how to score goals, how to go to the right areas. With him, he's only going to get better as he goes,” Schenn said.

AI=Antagonistic Imbecile

Fits him perfectly. AI should be his new nickname