I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 14 Oct 2025 08:23 am
makesnosense wrote: 14 Oct 2025 06:49 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 00:19 am Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
You could say that to those who project how nice and great their players seem too...they don't know them either.
Great point, Scouty.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 09:38 am
makesnosense wrote: 14 Oct 2025 06:49 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 00:19 am Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.

My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.

As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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makesnosense wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 09:38 am
makesnosense wrote: 14 Oct 2025 06:49 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 00:19 am Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.

My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.

As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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Carp4Cy wrote: 13 Oct 2025 23:22 pm
Dicktar2023 wrote: 13 Oct 2025 23:10 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 13 Oct 2025 22:01 pm I like some of the players but hate the team and hope they lose
Yeah, but they don't have any annoying twerps like Jeter or circus clowns like Manny Ramirez, or detestable human beings like Roger Clemens or Curt Schilling.

The Dodgers buy up all the talent and then they're not even good villains.
They don’t have Ryan Braun either. Oh wait, he’s why I still hate the Brewers.
If Braun were still a Brewer, I'd be wearing a Kershaw jersey in my living room to watch this series.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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ecleme22 wrote: 13 Oct 2025 21:58 pm Hear is the great thing about LAD.

They sign SO for 700 mil, yet they have one of the best farm systems in mlb.
The #1 farm system in MLB according to BA.

The Cardinals want to emulate the Brewers. But will run into the Dodgers year after year regardless. You might run into a transition year for them when their big three are on the down turn.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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I will never like the Brewers, and their current ballpark sucks, with no sense of location like our park with the Arch in CF. And Front Row Amy is over the hill. :P
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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It's really difficult to cheer for either of these teams. Hate the Brewers--moreso than the Cubs, for whatever reason. I think it's mostly because of games like last night. They just don't seem to be a team with any great players, yet somehow, invariably, they always produce a record that's soo much greater than the sum of their parts. Reminds me of a team I used to watch, before OliMo dragged them into the dregs of hell.

And the Dodgers are everything that's wrong with MLB. And yet they all just talk like they're any other team that has to endure the same difficulties, injuries, challenges, blah blah blah that all MLB teams do. BULLSPIT! Tommy Edman's contract would be an albatross on 95% of MLB teams.

The Dodgers don't even notice. Because no matter how many injuries, they can always spend more to get whatever they need. And as the OP mentioned, that's what's so infuriating about them. They don't act like they're the evil empire they most definitely are.

F both these teams.

And Front Row Amy... my gawd woman... you're pushing 60, no one wants to see your grandma cans anymore. Dress with a little dignity, you shameless sl*t.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:43 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:37 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:58 am Don't mind the Dodgers getting into the WS, not pulling for the Brewers ever.

But I'm rooting for the M's to get their first WS appearance and WS title!
This here.

All my cool neighbors are from the state of Washington for some reason. And they are all super chill and relaxed folks. I’m all in on the Mariners and again dislike the Brewers I want to see them get swept.
That M's starting staff coupled w/the Big Dumper & Company will be hard to beat.

No way I want to see the Dodgers buy another WS title. :x
Yep.

At the start of the post-season the M's were at the top of my list of teams I'd like to see win it all.

The Brewers and Dodgers were tied for 2nd to last (Cubs are obviously always last). I don't know, the Brewers might be behind the Dodgers as much as I don't like them spending like crazy, I just can't root for a division rival. Either way, I hope the AL champ wins the WS, but I'm especially pulling for the M's.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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rbirules wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:55 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:43 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:37 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:58 am Don't mind the Dodgers getting into the WS, not pulling for the Brewers ever.

But I'm rooting for the M's to get their first WS appearance and WS title!
This here.

All my cool neighbors are from the state of Washington for some reason. And they are all super chill and relaxed folks. I’m all in on the Mariners and again dislike the Brewers I want to see them get swept.
That M's starting staff coupled w/the Big Dumper & Company will be hard to beat.

No way I want to see the Dodgers buy another WS title. :x
Yep.

At the start of the post-season the M's were at the top of my list of teams I'd like to see win it all.

The Brewers and Dodgers were tied for 2nd to last (Cubs are obviously always last). I don't know, the Brewers might be behind the Dodgers as much as I don't like them spending like crazy, I just can't root for a division rival. Either way, I hope the AL champ wins the WS, but I'm especially pulling for the M's.
This is a widespread sentiment that I've simply never understood. Is there any rational basis to this or is it more just reflexively hating your favorite team's most proximate rivals?
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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Snell is really the only one I would say I really dislike.

Can't say they are not a fun team to watch. Betts may be my favorite non-cardinal player. Roberts seems to always push the right buttons too.


But their fans? fuggem.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:16 pm
makesnosense wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:04 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 09:38 am
makesnosense wrote: 14 Oct 2025 06:49 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 14 Oct 2025 00:19 am Can't stand that organization. Freeman seems like a phoney. And Ohtani got away with something others served lifetime bans for. They manipulate the IL.
Hilarious. An opinion about a player you don't know. A anger statement wanting a player banned when no rule violation was found. And a whiney statement that a team follows rules concerning injuries, but you don't like that they do.
So one has to personally know a player to have an opinion? I guess the concept of being a fan is eliminated in your mind. Freeman took the big $ and bright lights of LA. Then attempted to save face in ATL by saying he was unaware the Braves had made an acceptable offer. [nonsense]. He had enough connections in that organization to know what was happening in the contract talks.

My statement concerning Ohtani was not based in anger. You are gullible if you believe the translator story. MLB couldn't let their cash cow take a fall.

As for IL manipulation, yes a lot of teams do it. The Dodgers tend to do it most.
Your theory on Othani is only missing the small element of proof.
Proof that we will never see. If you believe his interpreter had access to his financials, i cant help you. Gullible.
Call me all the names you want. There is no proof to the contrary, so i'll stick with that.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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rbirules wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:55 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:43 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:37 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:58 am Don't mind the Dodgers getting into the WS, not pulling for the Brewers ever.

But I'm rooting for the M's to get their first WS appearance and WS title!
This here.

All my cool neighbors are from the state of Washington for some reason. And they are all super chill and relaxed folks. I’m all in on the Mariners and again dislike the Brewers I want to see them get swept.
That M's starting staff coupled w/the Big Dumper & Company will be hard to beat.

No way I want to see the Dodgers buy another WS title. :x
Yep.

At the start of the post-season the M's were at the top of my list of teams I'd like to see win it all.

The Brewers and Dodgers were tied for 2nd to last (Cubs are obviously always last). I don't know, the Brewers might be behind the Dodgers as much as I don't like them spending like crazy, I just can't root for a division rival. Either way, I hope the AL champ wins the WS, but I'm especially pulling for the M's.
Same here rbis, no way we can root for an NLC rival.

I've been pulling for the M's since the playoffs started, something I rarely if ever do (root for an AL team).
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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3dender wrote: 14 Oct 2025 13:25 pm
rbirules wrote: 14 Oct 2025 12:55 pm
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:43 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:37 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:58 am Don't mind the Dodgers getting into the WS, not pulling for the Brewers ever.

But I'm rooting for the M's to get their first WS appearance and WS title!
This here.

All my cool neighbors are from the state of Washington for some reason. And they are all super chill and relaxed folks. I’m all in on the Mariners and again dislike the Brewers I want to see them get swept.
That M's starting staff coupled w/the Big Dumper & Company will be hard to beat.

No way I want to see the Dodgers buy another WS title. :x
Yep.

At the start of the post-season the M's were at the top of my list of teams I'd like to see win it all.

The Brewers and Dodgers were tied for 2nd to last (Cubs are obviously always last). I don't know, the Brewers might be behind the Dodgers as much as I don't like them spending like crazy, I just can't root for a division rival. Either way, I hope the AL champ wins the WS, but I'm especially pulling for the M's.
This is a widespread sentiment that I've simply never understood. Is there any rational basis to this or is it more just reflexively hating your favorite team's most proximate rivals?
Is there a rational basis to "sports hating" any particular team? I'm not sure if this is rational or not but, for me personally, teams I don't want to see win are teams that the Cardinals have played a lot when there is something at stake, where losing or winning those matchups really sticks with you. It's therefore typical that fans will have this sentiment towards teams in their division (or conference depending on the sport) as you need to beat these teams to make the playoffs (or win your division to get more favorable placement in the playoffs). Plus when there was an unbalanced schedule you played these teams more often.

From there teams that you played, multiple times, in the playoffs tend to be teams I root against. The Cardinals have played the Dodgers and Red Sox several times in the post season, in my life time, and never played the Yankees, so I don't quite have the same desire to see the Yankees lose as I do the Dodgers or Red Sox, amongst the big spenders. I have some memories of disliking the Mets as a kid, and then again in the early 2000s (played them in the NLCS in both 2000 and 2006). Despite not playing in the same division I have a strong dislike of the Astros from years of being division rivals plus back to back NLCS matchups against them in 2004 and 2005 (and just eeking out the division against them in 2006).

Not sure if that's rational or not, but that's kind of my mindset. Padres are probably the one NL team I had no desire to see lose, and would have rooted for in the WS (we played them in 1996 NLDS, 2005 NLDS, and 2020 wild card round but I don't really have hard feelings towards them, probably because they were early round matchups, and we won two of them).

Edit: Division rivals you've had close battles with and/or post season matchups against, I root against more than others. So I would root harder against the Cubs, Astros or Brewers than the Reds or Pirates (assuming the Cardinals aren't involved).
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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12xu wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:16 am
scoutyjones2 wrote: 14 Oct 2025 08:25 am
stormtime wrote: 14 Oct 2025 07:33 am
Dicktar2023 wrote: 13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.

MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
And yet, they barely won the first game of a 7 game series. Played on the field, not on contract signings.

Yankees tried buying championships and were highly unsuccessful
LOL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I would say that the last team to win THREE consecutive World Series and 4 of 5 in a row was kind of successful.
Those '96-'00 Yanks had the highest payroll in MLB every year but one, and in '98 they were #2.
(bleep)...
2000...Yanks win WS with highest payroll
2001...Yanks 2nd highest payroll..no title
2002...higest payroll...nada
2003...highest, lose to Marlins
2004...highest, Red Sox beat out beloved Cards
2005...highest, nada
2006...highest, Cards beat Tigers
2007...highest, nada
2008...highest, nada
2009...highest, win WS
2010...higest, nada
2011...highest, nada
2012...highest, nada
2013...highest nada

Yankees spending :roll:

Still usually top 2-3 for the most part and still no WS win since 2009...
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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3dender wrote: 14 Oct 2025 08:33 am
stormtime wrote: 14 Oct 2025 07:33 am
Dicktar2023 wrote: 13 Oct 2025 21:46 pm They all just seem like really good players. I don't want to punch any of them.
How can you enjoy watching a team that has such a revenue advantage? It cheapens the sport. It's not truly a competitive athletic competition when one team can field a team that was put together with unlimited resources.

MLB is not a serious sport until the cap arrives. When even F1 finally went to a cap....and now the professional soccer/football is doing the same.....there is only one sport left to take the plunge. Make it fair. Make it a sport again.
I'm much more worried about the Pirates receiving basically as much in revenue sharing as they spend on the entire payroll. That's much worse for fans than a handful of big market teams who will spend whatever it takes to win.

Every single owner can afford to do what the Dodgers, Mets, Phillies and Padres do. And fans like you who argue that LAD/NYM/PHI/SDP are the main problem instead of PIT/WSH/MIA/CHW/OAK/MIN/COL... well let's just say the billionaires are really happy to have you fighting their fight for them and without even getting paid.
It’s sad they don’t get it.
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Re: I'm finding it hard to hate the Dodgers

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rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:43 am
Alex Reyes Cy Young wrote: 14 Oct 2025 11:37 am
rockondlouie wrote: 14 Oct 2025 10:58 am Don't mind the Dodgers getting into the WS, not pulling for the Brewers ever.

But I'm rooting for the M's to get their first WS appearance and WS title!
This here.

All my cool neighbors are from the state of Washington for some reason. And they are all super chill and relaxed folks. I’m all in on the Mariners and again dislike the Brewers I want to see them get swept.
That M's starting staff coupled w/the Big Dumper & Company will be hard to beat.

No way I want to see the Dodgers buy another WS title. :x
Seattle all the way.
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