(The Right) expensive veterans with lots of playoff experience seems to be the key

[Carp4Cy]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

[Ozziesfan41]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

[CorneliusWolfe]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

[Ozziesfan41]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

Well it certainly beats trying to build a team with guys like miles mikolas and Eric fedde and old pitchers like lance lynn and Kyle Gibson

[CorneliusWolfe]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

And you think they’ll keep the ones they drafted that excel? If they’re that good, they too will cost hundreds of millions.

[Ozziesfan41]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

And you think they’ll keep the ones they drafted that excel? If they’re that good, they too will cost hundreds of millions.

Sign them to extensions early. And I don’t get your complaint you’re seriously complaining about them developing good players lol I guess you would prefer them to continue players like Dylan Carlson and Nolan Gorman who suck lol I can’t wrap my head around people whining about them fixing a broken development system that will produce good players instead of the trash they’ve been producing

[CorneliusWolfe]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

Well it certainly beats trying to build a team with guys like miles mikolas and Eric fedde and old pitchers like lance lynn and Kyle Gibson

Who said we should sign those guys? Never should’ve in the first place. The new alternative isn’t much better though…perpetually hoping in kids that are just happy to be in the bigs. The new Rays.

[CorneliusWolfe]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

And you think they’ll keep the ones they drafted that excel? If they’re that good, they too will cost hundreds of millions.

Sign them to extensions early. And I don’t get your complaint you’re seriously complaining about them developing good players lol I guess you would prefer them to continue players like Dylan Carlson and Nolan Gorman who suck lol

Like Paul DeJong? And who are they developing that is worth an extension anyway? Burleson? Lol

[Carp4Cy]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

And you think they’ll keep the ones they drafted that excel? If they’re that good, they too will cost hundreds of millions.

Sign them to extensions early. And I don’t get your complaint you’re seriously complaining about them developing good players lol I guess you would prefer them to continue players like Dylan Carlson and Nolan Gorman who suck lol I can’t wrap my head around people whining about them fixing a broken development system that will produce good players instead of the trash they’ve been producing

Which ones do you extend? 80% of the board says to trade Donovan for yet more unexperienced prospects, yet He and Helsley are the biggest success stories our farm has produced in quite a while.

[Ozziesfan41]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

Well it certainly beats trying to build a team with guys like miles mikolas and Eric fedde and old pitchers like lance lynn and Kyle Gibson

Who said we should sign those guys? Never should’ve in the first place. The new alternative isn’t much better though…perpetually hoping in kids that are just happy to be in the bigs. The new Rays.

Well what is your solution you’re apparently against them fixing the development system and prefer them producing guys like Carlson and Gorman and guys that suck they can’t spend like the dodgers anyone that thinks they can are delusional so what’s your grand plan?

[dugoutrex]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

wasn't Mookie's RBI walk the game winner tonight?

[Ozziesfan41]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

And you think they’ll keep the ones they drafted that excel? If they’re that good, they too will cost hundreds of millions.

Sign them to extensions early. And I don’t get your complaint you’re seriously complaining about them developing good players lol I guess you would prefer them to continue players like Dylan Carlson and Nolan Gorman who suck lol I can’t wrap my head around people whining about them fixing a broken development system that will produce good players instead of the trash they’ve been producing

Which ones do you extend? 80% of the board says to trade Donovan for yet more unexperienced prospects, yet He and Helsley are the biggest success stories our farm has produced in quite a while.

In case you didn’t see it helsley sucked and closers are a stupid investment anyway and Donovan u drool over him but he’s never scored 70 or more runs and drove in more than 50 runs just once limited power limited speed he’s not worth signing to some long term contract. But I get it he’s scrappy when he’s able to play

[CorneliusWolfe]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

Well it certainly beats trying to build a team with guys like miles mikolas and Eric fedde and old pitchers like lance lynn and Kyle Gibson

Who said we should sign those guys? Never should’ve in the first place. The new alternative isn’t much better though…perpetually hoping in kids that are just happy to be in the bigs. The new Rays.

Well what is your solution you’re apparently against them fixing the development system and prefer them producing guys like Carlson and Gorman and guys that suck they can’t spend like the dodgers anyone that thinks they can are delusional so what’s your grand plan?

Why do you keep bringing up the [shirt]ty prospects they obviously missed on? You’re just reinforcing my point. And way to put words in my mouth about being “against fixing the development system”.

I’ve consistently said the team needs to build a foundation through the draft, but when they miss, as the Cardinals do so often, the price is occasional (over)payment in free agency to field a good product. A good foundation alone will not win a championship.

They don’t need Dodger money to pick up some quality free agents. They (bleep) sure don’t have anyone internal worth extending. If Bloom is given what Mo had, a 190-220 million payroll they can and should add some quality. But they won’t, so rest easy, BDW will save plenty of money and you’ll have plenty of kids to cheer for. During the regular season anyway.

[CorneliusWolfe]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

Cardinals are going to have to build a team good enough for them to make the post season to get experience they aren’t going to be able to sign every other teams best players for hundreds of millions of dollars

And you think they’ll keep the ones they drafted that excel? If they’re that good, they too will cost hundreds of millions.

Sign them to extensions early. And I don’t get your complaint you’re seriously complaining about them developing good players lol I guess you would prefer them to continue players like Dylan Carlson and Nolan Gorman who suck lol I can’t wrap my head around people whining about them fixing a broken development system that will produce good players instead of the trash they’ve been producing

Which ones do you extend? 80% of the board says to trade Donovan for yet more unexperienced prospects, yet He and Helsley are the biggest success stories our farm has produced in quite a while.

In case you didn’t see it helsley sucked and closers are a stupid investment anyway and Donovan u drool over him but he’s never scored 70 or more runs and drove in more than 50 runs just once limited power limited speed he’s not worth signing to some long term contract. But I get it he’s scrappy when he’s able to play

Yeah, Helsley and his career 2.97 ERA over 7 years and back-to-back record save totals really sucked. Let me know when Kyle Leahy or O’Brien pulls that off. You’ll be ready to hand them 10 year deals.

[Ozziesfan41]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

Well it certainly beats trying to build a team with guys like miles mikolas and Eric fedde and old pitchers like lance lynn and Kyle Gibson

Who said we should sign those guys? Never should’ve in the first place. The new alternative isn’t much better though…perpetually hoping in kids that are just happy to be in the bigs. The new Rays.

Well what is your solution you’re apparently against them fixing the development system and prefer them producing guys like Carlson and Gorman and guys that suck they can’t spend like the dodgers anyone that thinks they can are delusional so what’s your grand plan?

Why do you keep bringing up the [shirt]ty prospects they obviously missed on? You’re just reinforcing my point. And way to put words in my mouth about being “against fixing the development system”.

I’ve consistently said the team needs to build a foundation through the draft, but when they miss, as the Cardinals do so often, the price is occasional (over)payment in free agency to field a good product. A good foundation alone will not win a championship.

They don’t need Dodger money to pick up some quality free agents. They (drat) sure don’t have anyone internal worth extending. If Bloom is given what Mo had, a 190-220 million payroll they can and should add some quality. But they won’t, so rest easy, BDW will save plenty of money and you’ll have plenty of kids to cheer for. During the regular season anyway.

lol it will bear rooting for old arenado and fedde and mikolas. I don’t know why you’re so upset I’m not the one who decided to fix the broken development system I just agree with it I guess you want me to be as outraged as you are but I’m not

[JuanAgosto]

to winning in October. And lots of them.

Snell has always been pretty good in the playoffs, but now he's dominating, and going deep into games. He's won 5 straight playoff starts.

And Freddie Freeman, who had the GWRBI HR tonight - was playing in his 69th career playoff game.

When if ever, will our cheap homegrown roster have that kind of playoff experience?

They won’t. It will take them 2-3 years of development to be good enough to even make the playoffs, then a few years of taking their lumps as they gain playoff experience, then it will be time to trade them for…more great prospects!

And the hyperventilating prospect geek fraternity will fall in love with the “next big thing” kids and celebrate BDW being able to save so much money. They love that [shirt] more than winning the WS. TLR and Whitey realized kids don’t win championships.

Even if the team hits big on a handful of their picks, they’ll still need to supplement with good free agents or they’re going nowhere for the rest of this decade. They need to get their [shirt] together on international scouting too.

Well it certainly beats trying to build a team with guys like miles mikolas and Eric fedde and old pitchers like lance lynn and Kyle Gibson

Difference between signing a key veteran to solidify your team and getting old guys to fill key spots. Walt Jocketty used to do the former (ex Larry Walker). Johnny bow ties did the latter (Lynn, Gibson, Fedde, Miller and so on).