Valuing forwards.

[Cahokanut]

I watched a lot of Snuggs in Minny. And he was a different player in the playoffs. I was hoping that was him.

But this year. He is back to playing that Bergland style I remember watching in Minny.


As for Valuing forwards.
It's whatever is best for Schenn.
Steen accepted his new role and we became champs.
Cheddar. Wants to be a center and he gets our two best forwards to help him get his.

The same way Neighbours got into the lineup to begin with.
Schenn wanted him there

Snuggerud has less than 20 NHL games again, hes 21 give him some run way. Like it or not the Blues staff know more about these guys than you do and the Blues dont often miss on kids

First off. You can't prove their staff knows more then anyone with a internet. Sometimes those that are closest are blinded by their own bias.

Second. I didn't say, nor would I promote, giving up on a prospect. That's a made up boogieman for you to bash.

But for me. I'd rather the Snuggs seen in most of the playoffs. Over the guy I watched in Minny.
So far. I'm watching the guy in Minny. Only difference. Now he also is looking confused.

Here's are problem. He needs a skilled Center to learn the game from to bring him to his full potential. We Only have Thomas.

[Aesa]

Every time I read one of Cahokanut's or ASOGG's posts, all I hear is a scratched vinyl record... blah, blah, blah, skip, blah, blah, blah... rinse, repeat.

[DawgDad]

I watched a lot of Snuggs in Minny. And he was a different player in the playoffs. I was hoping that was him.

But this year. He is back to playing that Bergland style I remember watching in Minny.


As for Valuing forwards.
It's whatever is best for Schenn.
Steen accepted his new role and we became champs.
Cheddar. Wants to be a center and he gets our two best forwards to help him get his.

The same way Neighbours got into the lineup to begin with.
Schenn wanted him there

Snuggerud has less than 20 NHL games again, hes 21 give him some run way. Like it or not the Blues staff know more about these guys than you do and the Blues dont often miss on kids

First off. You can't prove their staff knows more then anyone with a internet. Sometimes those that are closest are blinded by their own bias.

Second. I didn't say, nor would I promote, giving up on a prospect. That's a made up boogieman for you to bash.

But for me. I'd rather the Snuggs seen in most of the playoffs. Over the guy I watched in Minny.
So far. I'm watching the guy in Minny. Only difference. Now he also is looking confused.

Here's are problem. He needs a skilled Center to learn the game from to bring him to his full potential. We Only have Thomas.

Did I read that correctly? Maybe I need cataract surgery.

[Harry S Deals]

I watched a lot of Snuggs in Minny. And he was a different player in the playoffs. I was hoping that was him.

But this year. He is back to playing that Bergland style I remember watching in Minny.


As for Valuing forwards.
It's whatever is best for Schenn.
Steen accepted his new role and we became champs.
Cheddar. Wants to be a center and he gets our two best forwards to help him get his.

The same way Neighbours got into the lineup to begin with.
Schenn wanted him there

Snuggerud has less than 20 NHL games again, hes 21 give him some run way. Like it or not the Blues staff know more about these guys than you do and the Blues dont often miss on kids

First off. You can't prove their staff knows more then anyone with a internet. Sometimes those that are closest are blinded by their own bias.

Second. I didn't say, nor would I promote, giving up on a prospect. That's a made up boogieman for you to bash.

But for me. I'd rather the Snuggs seen in most of the playoffs. Over the guy I watched in Minny.
So far. I'm watching the guy in Minny. Only difference. Now he also is looking confused.

Here's are problem. He needs a skilled Center to learn the game from to bring him to his full potential. We Only have Thomas.

You can't prove their staff knows more then anyone with a internet.

This is one of the stupidest things i have ever read on this forum and imagine that. Amateur staffs travel immensely to watch kids play they arent picking names out of a hat from the internet. They are watching games, talking to families and coaches putting in big miles. Jan Vopat, J Niemiec all pros at their jobs. This is why the Blues consistently turn out great prospects regardless of draft position.

[somni]

I watched a lot of Snuggs in Minny. And he was a different player in the playoffs. I was hoping that was him.

But this year. He is back to playing that Bergland style I remember watching in Minny.


As for Valuing forwards.
It's whatever is best for Schenn.
Steen accepted his new role and we became champs.
Cheddar. Wants to be a center and he gets our two best forwards to help him get his.

The same way Neighbours got into the lineup to begin with.
Schenn wanted him there

Snuggerud has less than 20 NHL games again, hes 21 give him some run way. Like it or not the Blues staff know more about these guys than you do and the Blues dont often miss on kids

First off. You can't prove their staff knows more then anyone with a internet. Sometimes those that are closest are blinded by their own bias.

Second. I didn't say, nor would I promote, giving up on a prospect. That's a made up boogieman for you to bash.

But for me. I'd rather the Snuggs seen in most of the playoffs. Over the guy I watched in Minny.
So far. I'm watching the guy in Minny. Only difference. Now he also is looking confused.

Here's are problem. He needs a skilled Center to learn the game from to bring him to his full potential. We Only have Thomas.

You can't prove their staff knows more then anyone with a internet.

This is one of the stupidest things i have ever read on this forum and imagine that. Amateur staffs travel immensely to watch kids play they arent picking names out of a hat from the internet. They are watching games, talking to families and coaches putting in big miles. Jan Vopat, J Niemiec all pros at their jobs. This is why the Blues consistently turn out great prospects regardless of draft position.

And the staff as access to waaay more information than all of us stellar hockey minds on a random forum.
Funny stuff.

[SRV1990]

Every time I read one of Cahokanut's or ASOGG's posts, all I hear is a scratched vinyl record... blah, blah, blah, skip, blah, blah, blah... rinse, repeat.

On any given day I read something one of those nitwits posts and say to myself "Wow, that's one of the dumbest things I've ever read". And then the next day, they top the dumbest with something even dumber. Personally I think it's intentional, because no one who's followed the game even a little bit can actually believe the [shirt] they spew.

[SRV1990]

No way to look at this for a couple seasons. I for one, was a huge Bolduc fan and hated to see him go. I think that we will be a perennial 25-30 goal scorer out of him. He’s gone though, so we move on. I think Snuggy will see top line duties the first half of games, and third line/bench in the latter parts of games, specifically where we have a 1-goal lead. He’s not ready to be on the top line in crunch time, so he’ll get the Bolduc treatment.

Dude, every day I log into the forum I'm hoping this happens. Probably won't considering the clear (and uneducated) agenda some folks have, but it would sure be nice to not keep beating this dead horse over and over again.

[TruBlueFan_1970]

No way to look at this for a couple seasons. I for one, was a huge Bolduc fan and hated to see him go. I think that we will be a perennial 25-30 goal scorer out of him. He’s gone though, so we move on. I think Snuggy will see top line duties the first half of games, and third line/bench in the latter parts of games, specifically where we have a 1-goal lead. He’s not ready to be on the top line in crunch time, so he’ll get the Bolduc treatment.

Dude, every day I log into the forum I'm hoping this happens. Probably won't considering the clear (and uneducated) agenda some folks have, but it would sure be nice to not keep beating this dead horse over and over again.

100% - will be my last post on this topic. And I wish Bolduc the best....he's gonna be a good one.

[blackinkbiz]

I've been a critic of the Bolduc v Mailloux trade since it happened, but what doesn't make sense to me is the Snuggerud vs Bolduc treatment.

Bolduc last season scored 19 goals playing on the 3rd line. He played a gritty 2 way game and couldn't didn't even receive an average of 13 minutes per night. He is a former 1st round pick, 17th overall.

Snuggerud comes up and immediately gets 1st line playing time with our most talented C, Robert Thomas. This equates to him scoring 1 goal in 7 regular season games and getting 15+ minutes per night. He doesn't appear to play NHL defense and doesn't seem to have any physicality to his game. He is also a former 1st round pick, 23rd overall.

Just wondering why. Is it overvaluing Snuggerud while devaluing Bolduc? It just didn't make sense to me.

As others suggested, based purely on last year's play, I think Snuggs was the more complete player at the time. But I fully agree that I don't understand why they traded a 22-year-old on a 35-goal pace in his first NHL season for a defenseman who has basically proven NOTHING at the NHL level. We have no idea what Bolduc's ceiling is. He's got an all-world shot and other than some rookie and defensive miscues, all he did was produce the 2nd half of the season.

I've chatted with some Habs fans and they're on cloud 9. They think it was highway robbery and this could end up being the steal of the century. They say Mailoux has offensive potential but apparently has no defensive instincts.

Seems like they could have given a lot less to get Mailoux or gotten a lot more for someone with Bolduc's potential.

Argh! I'm soooo sick of this happening in STL!!!!!

[TAFKAP]

Seems like they could have given a lot less to get Mailoux or gotten a lot more for someone with Bolduc's potential.

Argh! I'm soooo sick of this happening in STL!!!!!

I don't get this. When was the last time this happened?

[SRV1990]

I've been a critic of the Bolduc v Mailloux trade since it happened, but what doesn't make sense to me is the Snuggerud vs Bolduc treatment.

Bolduc last season scored 19 goals playing on the 3rd line. He played a gritty 2 way game and couldn't didn't even receive an average of 13 minutes per night. He is a former 1st round pick, 17th overall.

Snuggerud comes up and immediately gets 1st line playing time with our most talented C, Robert Thomas. This equates to him scoring 1 goal in 7 regular season games and getting 15+ minutes per night. He doesn't appear to play NHL defense and doesn't seem to have any physicality to his game. He is also a former 1st round pick, 23rd overall.

Just wondering why. Is it overvaluing Snuggerud while devaluing Bolduc? It just didn't make sense to me.

As others suggested, based purely on last year's play, I think Snuggs was the more complete player at the time. But I fully agree that I don't understand why they traded a 22-year-old on a 35-goal pace in his first NHL season for a defenseman who has basically proven NOTHING at the NHL level. We have no idea what Bolduc's ceiling is. He's got an all-world shot and other than some rookie and defensive miscues, all he did was produce the 2nd half of the season.

I've chatted with some Habs fans and they're on cloud 9. They think it was highway robbery and this could end up being the steal of the century. They say Mailoux has offensive potential but apparently has no defensive instincts.

Seems like they could have given a lot less to get Mailoux or gotten a lot more for someone with Bolduc's potential.

Argh! I'm soooo sick of this happening in STL!!!!!

So you're saying the Habs would have taken less? Perhaps Texier and a bag of pucks? Or maybe Adam Jecho straight up? Perhaps Dags and a 3rd?

I'm sure Habs fans are on cloud 9. After three whole games. Just like we were after last regular season, but not early in the season when Bolduc was being scratched. And not in the playoffs when he did next to nothing. And did you talk to all Habs fans, or just the few who supposedly think this is "highway robbery"?

[somni]

Seems like they could have given a lot less to get Mailoux or gotten a lot more for someone with Bolduc's potential.

Argh! I'm soooo sick of this happening in STL!!!!!

I don't get this. When was the last time this happened?

When the Cardinals traded Arozarena and Marcell Ozuna.

[skilles]

Seems to be Kyrou VS Bolduc as Kyrou was the other guy being shopped not Snuggy.

I personally think there is likely more to the Bolduc situation than what happened on the ice or IMO he would not have been available or at least not been traded in that trade.