Bloom non-commital on Donovan's future with Cardinals

[ramfandan]

Bloom was asked by reporters if a contract extension was possible Bloom: " He and I had a few conversations about that . I don't know where it is going to go yet. I am being candid."

I am sure Bloom is going to play both sides of this ... what he could receive in trade compensation vs. the cost of an extension (both in years and salary ). Then determine what he feels is in best interest of the team. With Donovan turning 29 before spring training the length of contract Donovan and his agent would require could certainly be as important as the salary total. Teams are usually leary of the years that are 30+ . From Donovan's perspective he would be seeking as many guaranteed years as possible. Bloom also knows that Donovan's value with two years remaining is far better this offseason than if no extension is struck and he plays in 2026 under his arbitration ruling. Where Mo would not pull the trigger on trading guys in that situation (ie. Goldschmidt ), Bloom seems to be more aggressive in that regard. If so , then a decision on Donovan either way should come this offseason.

Here is the article in full :

https://redbirdrants.com/chaim-bloom-is ... -cardinals

[AZ_Cardsfan]

Depending on return I'm fine with trading Donovan right now. I don't expect the Cards to turn into a playoff team in 2026 and it is possible Donovan does a Helsley and loses value next year. He should return a very high prospect now if there is a playoff caliber team in need of a 2B which is his highest value position.

[Jatalk]

Of course he is non commital. What would anyone expect at this point?

[redbirdfan51]

Donovan's value will likely never be higher. Bloom would be wise to see what kind of return he could get. The good thing is JJ would then be put in place at 2B with the middle IF being set for seasons to come. If anyone should be extended it's Winn. If Nado is traded, does that mean the position is Gorman's to lose? Saggese would be in place as the back-up IF but he would also compete for a starting spot.

[rockondlouie]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

[ramfandan]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

[rockondlouie]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

[ramfandan]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

Since Bloom is looking at the lnng term, I would add two more youngsters to your list . They would be 18 yr old C Raniel Rodriguez ( 3rd ranked prospect projected MLB ready in 2028 ) and 18 year old 10th ranked and MLB ready for 2029 OF Ryan Mitchell (last year's 2nd round pick ..this team needs potential OF for the future ) . Those two are both 18 years old and already ranked in our Top 10 so if I am Bloom , I am not making either of those two available currently.

[12xu]

Donovan's value could increase by trade deadline '26, if he puts up his best stats ever in the first half.

IF Bloom cannot get the kind of return by trading him this offseason that rocko has proposed, I think he should remain in St. Louis.

[rockondlouie]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

Since Bloom is looking at the lnng term, I would add two more youngsters to your list . They would be 18 yr old C Raniel Rodriguez ( 3rd ranked prospect projected MLB ready in 2028 ) and 18 year old 10th ranked and MLB ready for 2029 OF Ryan Mitchell (last year's 2nd round pick ..this team needs potential OF for the future ) . Those two are both 18 years old and already ranked in our Top 10 so if I am Bloom , I am not making either of those two available currently.

I can see that and you're right, he won't move either of them.

But at 18 yrs old we have to see how they do as they climb the ladder before I put the "off limits" tag on them.

[ramfandan]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

Since Bloom is looking at the lnng term, I would add two more youngsters to your list . They would be 18 yr old C Raniel Rodriguez ( 3rd ranked prospect projected MLB ready in 2028 ) and 18 year old 10th ranked and MLB ready for 2029 OF Ryan Mitchell (last year's 2nd round pick ..this team needs potential OF for the future ) . Those two are both 18 years old and already ranked in our Top 10 so if I am Bloom , I am not making either of those two available currently.

I can see that and you're right, he won't move either of them.

But at 18 yrs old we have to see how they do as they climb the ladder before I put the "off limits" tag on them.

Yes, and I would think that 2 years from now at age 20 , Bloom will have a pretty good take on their major league potential. Is there arrow ascending ? So they are 'off limits' til that time IMO . Cerfolio will be a major evaluator as he is head of player development.
I am doubtful that any or our current OF's will be starters on the Cardinals 2028 team. So Mitchell should get a long look as their aren't many OF's in our pipeline currently.

[rockondlouie]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

Since Bloom is looking at the lnng term, I would add two more youngsters to your list . They would be 18 yr old C Raniel Rodriguez ( 3rd ranked prospect projected MLB ready in 2028 ) and 18 year old 10th ranked and MLB ready for 2029 OF Ryan Mitchell (last year's 2nd round pick ..this team needs potential OF for the future ) . Those two are both 18 years old and already ranked in our Top 10 so if I am Bloom , I am not making either of those two available currently.

I can see that and you're right, he won't move either of them.

But at 18 yrs old we have to see how they do as they climb the ladder before I put the "off limits" tag on them.

Yes, and I would think that 2 years from now at age 20 , Bloom will have a pretty good take on their major league potential. Is there arrow ascending ? So they are 'off limits' til that time IMO . Cerfolio will be a major evaluator as he is head of player development.

If he keeps developing, then we could see R.R. behind the plate here by the time he's 21 yrs old (one good thing about C. Bloom, he doesn't rush prospects like the former POBO did)!

Before then we should see L. Bernal added to J. Crooks sometime in 2027 and one could become trade bait as soon as R.R. is ready.

(And I agree on R. Cerfolio, another great hire by Bloom and possibly his GM pick by 2027?)

[bccardsfan]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

I would keep Winn. He is one of the top few defensive SS in baseball and will only improve. If he can hit .250 that is fine. He saves runs and steals outs with his glove and that arm. JJ is probably a decent SS, but I seriously doubt he can play it like Winn. The key is the build a lineup that is good enough that Winn bats 8 or 9. If he grows as a hitter, then he moves up. Ozzie couldn't hit his weight at first and he learned. Winn is already ahead of Ozzie at the plate. Keep Winn..... My 2 cents.

[ramfandan]

He's going to cast the Donny line out there and see who bites and what they're offering.

If it's what he's seeking, then I'd bet Donny is gone.

If he's not happy, then he keeps Donny till midseason and moves on to the next guy he'd likely to move and that's Noot.

Tend to agree.. the return for Donovan is a key.. if multiple teams want him, that would increase the return value.
Do agree with your fishing scenario .. always be open to listen to other teams.

Has to be at least a #3 major league starter under age 30 w/at least two years of control.

Bloom may have to add one of the catchers to seal the deal.

I don't think that package lands the corner OF'er we need but Bloom has pulled off some steals (Re: TGKS) before so he might do it again!

Other than I. Herrera, JJW and Doyle he has to be open (IMO) to offers for everyone else in the organization.

This roster needs a major overhaul, only those I listed should be "off limits".

Since Bloom is looking at the lnng term, I would add two more youngsters to your list . They would be 18 yr old C Raniel Rodriguez ( 3rd ranked prospect projected MLB ready in 2028 ) and 18 year old 10th ranked and MLB ready for 2029 OF Ryan Mitchell (last year's 2nd round pick ..this team needs potential OF for the future ) . Those two are both 18 years old and already ranked in our Top 10 so if I am Bloom , I am not making either of those two available currently.

I can see that and you're right, he won't move either of them.

But at 18 yrs old we have to see how they do as they climb the ladder before I put the "off limits" tag on them.

Yes, and I would think that 2 years from now at age 20 , Bloom will have a pretty good take on their major league potential. Is there arrow ascending ? So they are 'off limits' til that time IMO . Cerfolio will be a major evaluator as he is head of player development.

If he keeps developing, then we could see R.R. behind the plate here by the time he's 21 yrs old (one good thing about C. Bloom, he doesn't rush prospects like the former POBO did)!

Before then we should see L. Bernal added to J. Crooks sometime in 2027 and one could become trade bait as soon as R.R. is ready.

(And I agree on R. Cerfolio, another great hire by Bloom and possibly his GM pick by 2027?)

Right on and fans must always keep in mind that Bloom has a 5-year gig thru 2030. So he can build the team to his liking for the long haul and Cerfolio should be part of that long term ride too (unless he gets another higher opportunity in 2 or 3 years ) .

[ramfandan]

Donovan's value could increase by trade deadline '26, if he puts up his best stats ever in the first half.

IF Bloom cannot get the kind of return by trading him this offseason that rocko has proposed, I think he should remain in St. Louis.

Yes, that is always a tricky call for if he hits well in 1st half , another team may look even more favorably on Donovan but with that increase in value also comes with the fact the interested team now has him for the last 2 months of 2026 and then 1 more year in 2027 rather than 2 full seasons if acquired this offseason.

[ScotchMIrish]

Bloom was asked by reporters if a contract extension was possible Bloom: " He and I had a few conversations about that . I don't know where it is going to go yet. I am being candid."

I am sure Bloom is going to play both sides of this ... what he could receive in trade compensation vs. the cost of an extension (both in years and salary ). Then determine what he feels is in best interest of the team. With Donovan turning 29 before spring training the length of contract Donovan and his agent would require could certainly be as important as the salary total. Teams are usually leary of the years that are 30+ . From Donovan's perspective he would be seeking as many guaranteed years as possible. Bloom also knows that Donovan's value with two years remaining is far better this offseason than if no extension is struck and he plays in 2026 under his arbitration ruling. Where Mo would not pull the trigger on trading guys in that situation (ie. Goldschmidt ), Bloom seems to be more aggressive in that regard. If so , then a decision on Donovan either way should come this offseason.

Here is the article in full :

https://redbirdrants.com/chaim-bloom-is ... -cardinals

Are we the Pirates now? Lack of a good tv deal and attendance is forcing some tough decisions. If the pirates had the pitchers they were forced to trade away for prospects they would have been serious contender the last few seasons.