How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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Cusecards wrote: 07 Oct 2025 20:43 pm I think the majority of the fan base will give Bloom a fair shot to improve things and hopefully be patient and not expect dramatic changes overnight.
Having said that....I don’t consider CT to be a fair representation of that fan base.
I admit to venting at times but the “anonymous” nature of the forum leads to some pretty bizarre stuff due to the complete lack of personal accountability.
At any rate.....Bloom has a lot on his plate and I doubt that includes obsessing over message boards! LOL
Well said, Cusecsrds!
If some are already venting, just wait til Bloom gives Oli an extension prior to start of 2026 season. CT will go wild !
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If Bloom shows the capacity to construct a sensible roster and has any spark of life, I will support the drastic change within the front office. Anything beats the lame (donkey) Mozeliak and his laziness.
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“Like you said, you never wanna copy the competition, and for that matter, I don't wanna copy the places I've been, even if I'm proud of what we did there, because every organization is different, and all that trying-to-copy guarantees is two things.

“One, you're probably gonna be behind because they're still moving forward, and two, you're basically wearing somebody else's clothes, and they're not gonna look quite as good on you as they did on the person who actually owns them.

“You gotta find your own way, but at the same time, understanding best practices, learning from the game, learning from the competition is really important, and they've done some really good things there.

“There are people that have come out of that organization that I've worked with since they were in that organization. Matt (Arnold) and I were together with the Rays for a number of years. (I have) a lot of respect for a lot of the people there.

“There are some things that I know they've done, systematizing development in some of the ways that I've talked about that they were on earlier, really able to build replicable processes, especially in their pitching development.

“They've done some amazing things in the international market. They do a lot of things up and down their organization where they are just winning on the margins everywhere.

“Sometimes when you say that, people say, okay, great, winning on the margins is good, but what about the big stuff? Well, I don't think it has to be an either or – and we should try to dominate every area that we can. Those little things add up, just like little things add up over the course of 162 games. It's no different.

“So much of what seems like revolutionary steps in this game are really just the result of just getting after it day after day and moving the ball every day, finding little things to get better at.

“They've done an amazing job of that. I hope, obviously, we can take some things from them, as we should from all of our competition, but also that we find the best way to do it here …It's been a big part of how I've wanted to set this up.”

Bloom branched off in another direction, talking about how it’s important for the Cardinals to do things their way – and not just follow another team’s script, page by page. He will continue to bring in baseball analysts, front-office types, scouts and others who excel at processing information. This won't happen right away -- but it will happen soon enough.

“Look, we have amazing people in this organization. I wasn't surprised to find that because I know the success that the organization has had and the respect that the organization carries in the industry.

“My hope is that by bringing in some new perspectives, fresh voices, and if there are people that have the right values, that everybody comes together, collaborates to build something that's better than what any of us has experienced individually.”

C. Bloom from Bernie's column today
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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ramfandan wrote: 07 Oct 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: 07 Oct 2025 20:43 pm I think the majority of the fan base will give Bloom a fair shot to improve things and hopefully be patient and not expect dramatic changes overnight.
Having said that....I don’t consider CT to be a fair representation of that fan base.
I admit to venting at times but the “anonymous” nature of the forum leads to some pretty bizarre stuff due to the complete lack of personal accountability.
At any rate.....Bloom has a lot on his plate and I doubt that includes obsessing over message boards! LOL
Well said, Cusecsrds!
If some are already venting, just wait til Bloom gives Oli an extension prior to start of 2026 season. CT will go wild !
I disagree reference the CT not representation of the base. I think statistically speaking, it correlates well.
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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bccardsfan wrote: 07 Oct 2025 10:29 am
BrummerStealsHome wrote: 07 Oct 2025 10:12 am
timoevans wrote: 07 Oct 2025 09:37 am How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?
I don't know. What time is it now?

Some have already turned, it seems.

I know I'll give him every chance. I don't like his keeping the Marmot and the coaching staff but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt he has a plan in place to execute. Plus, I want him to succeed and the Cardinals to win. That doesn't necessarily have to be my way (though my way would be awesome).
Hey Brummer, let me guess, your way is EASY, OBVIOUS, CORRECT! Seriously, I am willing to give Bloom a couple of years if I see guys in AAA who are close to making the jump to fill holes and provide some pitching. I agree, keeping Marmol is just plain stupid. They could have at least hired Skippy at the minimum. They have to get an actual pitching coach.... Hopefully Jay stays as I think he did a good job. Anyway, next year will look a lot like this year most likely, but if some of the young talent does well in AAA and JJ has a good rookie year in the bigs... it will be trending up. Pitching cupboard is pretty bare right now, but there is an entire off season to see what happens. Will be interesting to see if ownership allows Bloom to sign anyone worth anything....
My expectations are low for 2026, but at least I'll have the satisfaction that Mo is gone.
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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icon wrote: 07 Oct 2025 21:13 pm
Cusecards wrote: 07 Oct 2025 20:43 pm I think the majority of the fan base will give Bloom a fair shot to improve things and hopefully be patient and not expect dramatic changes overnight.
Having said that....I don’t consider CT to be a fair representation of that fan base.
I admit to venting at times but the “anonymous” nature of the forum leads to some pretty bizarre stuff due to the complete lack of personal accountability.
At any rate.....Bloom has a lot on his plate and I doubt that includes obsessing over message boards! LOL
I don't know. Mozeliak heard plenty of boos at Busch.
I’m not condemning CT.
It is an ANONYMOUS fan forum which serves to provide fans with an easy way to exchange opinions, vents, etc etc
I just said what I said because while everyone here is legitimately entitled to express their opinions it doesn’t necessarily represent the actual fan base in total.
We’re less than 100 people!
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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ramfandan wrote: 07 Oct 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: 07 Oct 2025 20:43 pm I think the majority of the fan base will give Bloom a fair shot to improve things and hopefully be patient and not expect dramatic changes overnight.
Having said that....I don’t consider CT to be a fair representation of that fan base.
I admit to venting at times but the “anonymous” nature of the forum leads to some pretty bizarre stuff due to the complete lack of personal accountability.
At any rate.....Bloom has a lot on his plate and I doubt that includes obsessing over message boards! LOL
Well said, Cusecsrds!
If some are already venting, just wait til Bloom gives Oli an extension prior to start of 2026 season. CT will go wild !
Thank you.
And the offseason hasn’t even officially started yet and already Bloom is catching flak which is kind of amusing.
I think his vague comments on Oli were strictly PR.
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I think if they give him enough money he can fix this mess. We don't have much to trade to fix things and there are only one or two in the minors that might help. I was told to get Rick you can go two ways : inherit or steal! What will Bloom do?
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sikeston bulldog2 wrote: 08 Oct 2025 09:20 am
ramfandan wrote: 07 Oct 2025 21:19 pm
Cusecards wrote: 07 Oct 2025 20:43 pm I think the majority of the fan base will give Bloom a fair shot to improve things and hopefully be patient and not expect dramatic changes overnight.
Having said that....I don’t consider CT to be a fair representation of that fan base.
I admit to venting at times but the “anonymous” nature of the forum leads to some pretty bizarre stuff due to the complete lack of personal accountability.
At any rate.....Bloom has a lot on his plate and I doubt that includes obsessing over message boards! LOL
Well said, Cusecsrds!
If some are already venting, just wait til Bloom gives Oli an extension prior to start of 2026 season. CT will go wild !
I disagree reference the CT not representation of the base. I think statistically speaking, it correlates well.
If that’s the case, this team is screwed. Myself included.
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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Never. He’s going to build a strong organization and become a perennial playoff contender.
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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Not sure where the confusion lies???
If he performs, turns this train wreck around, and brings St. Louis PS baseball he’ll be loved and revered
If he continues the obviously idiotic, backwards, lying, non-winning, ways we’ve watched the last decade or so then he deserves full blast
I guess some of you think MO was just doing everything possible to bring the best talent to Busch, made talent acquisitions every year to fill needs when the team had a chance at the PS, and conveyed clear messages to the fan base that the ONLY thing he lived and breathed was ensuring winning baseball was played on the Busch stadium field……
If that was the case why is this organization positioned at the bottom quartile of the league when he leaves
So all the “whining, crying ,name calling ,or whatever” that was thrown MO’s way was 99% deserved.
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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People are tired of spending good money on a bad team.
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Goldfan wrote: 08 Oct 2025 18:12 pm Not sure where the confusion lies???
If he performs, turns this train wreck around, and brings St. Louis PS baseball he’ll be loved and revered
If he continues the obviously idiotic, backwards, lying, non-winning, ways we’ve watched the last decade or so then he deserves full blast
I guess some of you think MO was just doing everything possible to bring the best talent to Busch, made talent acquisitions every year to fill needs when the team had a chance at the PS, and conveyed clear messages to the fan base that the ONLY thing he lived and breathed was ensuring winning baseball was played on the Busch stadium field……
If that was the case why is this organization positioned at the bottom quartile of the league when he leaves
So all the “whining, crying ,name calling ,or whatever” that was thrown MO’s way was 99% deserved.
Isn't it comical how the front office (donkey) kissers can sit back and complain about the "complainers" on here? I agree with you, pretty simple to rationalize to me. Why should we as fans be expected to love a GM or POBO when the previous one and owner did seemingly everything in their power to bury the franchise? Seems like a true fan would want their loyalty earned by any new GM or regime. The previous POBO took a great franchise and took it to a totally bare farm system in addtion to a (bleep) product on the field. On top of that he hired 3 inexperienced managers that has taken us lower and lower down the standings each year.

These front office (donkey) kissers wouldn't last one moment in the Philly or New York markets where the standards and expectations are high every year.
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If Bloom doesn’t sell high this off season on his best trade assets that have zero future here (BD, Noot, etc) then I will turn on him.

As a fan I have no time for less than the best and that starts at the top. Clock is ticking…
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Re: How long till Card Nation turns on Bloom?

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timoevans wrote: 07 Oct 2025 09:37 am If we have the same old lineup next year and we are still terrible will Card Nation turn on Bloom? Will he be allowed to do anything or will his orders be to get us to look like Tampa Bay or Miami?
I think Bloom could give the fans the finger on opening day and they would not turn on him. People will be happy to be done with Mo for awhile.
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