Cards have accelerated improvement in farm system..

[CCard]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Best you do some research on why he was let go in Boston. He was made a scapegoat.

As I said to the other poster, let me know when he wins a championship, until then I'll refrain from anointing him the next Whitey Herzog. You people need to untwist your panties. LOL

[Ozziesfan41]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

[Braund241]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

No wonder the MLB team and coaching staff performed so poorly. Who could concentrate with such an intricate and complex system of moving parts building all around them? Obviously, no MLB team could both perform at the ML level and handle such detail at the same time.

Amen! Playing the long game. The new Pirates.

[Ozziesfan41]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

No wonder the MLB team and coaching staff performed so poorly. Who could concentrate with such an intricate and complex system of moving parts building all around them? Obviously, no MLB team could both perform at the ML level and handle such detail at the same time.

Amen! Playing the long game. The new Pirates.

Yea it’s a shame mos system was working so well to actually shift to a system that can develop players who don’t suck is just horrible

[CCard]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

[Ozziesfan41]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

Well yea I guess if you go by the criteria you never know if a player is going to be good or not then no GM or POBO is ever bad and they’re all good

[ecleme22]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

1. Cecil was not that highly regarded. This was during the time (most of Mo's tenure) when he stopped embracing the short term contract. Who gives a lefty reliever 30mil 9 years ago unless he's a stud?
2. The Ozuna trade once again showed MO's lack of embracing the 1-2 year deal for an outfielder (instead of making a big splash). It also showed Mo's lack of talent evaluation by not appropriatedly evaluating Sandy, Zac, Dakota and Weaver.

Lastly, small-to-mid market teams should never be making deals like the Ozuna deal. (Two good prospects for a 2 year rental).

One more thing: Now look at the END of the Ozuna deal. He wanted to stay here. Arozarena was also on the team. MO moves on from Ozuna and trades Arozarena in favor of O'Neill, Bader, Carlson.

Ozuna bookended two examples of bad talent evaluation. Funny.

[rockondlouie]

Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.

This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.

I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.

This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.

They might not lose 90 but good chance they dont win 80 either the next two years.

I think they "80+" alw.

Simply not having Mikolas, Fedde and Pallante (he better NOT be in the 2026 SR) makes the 2026 team better!

Toss in JJW and (hopefully) I. Hererra for a full season + those moves I listed above and I can see an 80-85 win team.

Maybe I need to remove my redbird colored glasses but what I listed tells me the 2026 team won't be as bad as the 2025 team.

JMO

[CCard]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

1. Cecil was not that highly regarded. This was during the time (most of Mo's tenure) when he stopped embracing the short term contract. Who gives a lefty reliever 30mil 9 years ago unless he's a stud?
2. The Ozuna trade once again showed MO's lack of embracing the 1-2 year deal for an outfielder (instead of making a big splash). It also showed Mo's lack of talent evaluation by not appropriatedly evaluating Sandy, Zac, Dakota and Weaver.

Lastly, small-to-mid market teams should never be making deals like the Ozuna deal. (Two good prospects for a 2 year rental).

One more thing: Now look at the END of the Ozuna deal. He wanted to stay here. Arozarena was also on the team. MO moves on from Ozuna and trades Arozarena in favor of O'Neill, Bader, Carlson.

Ozuna bookended two examples of bad talent evaluation. Funny.

Cecil at the time was a fairly good rated lefty in the American league and the Cards needed lefty relief bad. At the time there was many a board member happy to have that reliever. It was a bit much but there was a lot of competition for him.
Ozuna was an all-star caliber talent in Miami. A 30-30 man I think. You take a bat like that over a couple of minor league players every day and twice on sunday. Because he didn't perform in St Louis it looks bad though. If he'd performed like he did in Miami or Atlanta everyone would have been happy with him.
At the time of Aroazrena, who was actually a little older I believe, was down on the depth chart. He didn't really get playing time to prove himself and Mo and the Cards were still pinning there hopes on TO. Bad decision making I guess, but TO could have been a superstar. He had all the tools, speed and power. He just couldn't put it all together.
You of course can look back in hindsight and blame Mo, but there was a lot of moving parts and he couldn't have known that Ozuna, To or Carlson wouldn't work out. If you had a crystal ball, what would you have done?

[CCard]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

Well yea I guess if you go by the criteria you never know if a player is going to be good or not then no GM or POBO is ever bad and they’re all good

Part of their job is to evaluate talent. Check the numbers. But at the end of the day, the player has to perform. If they do, you look like a genius, if the don't, you look like a fool. No one could have predicted that Ozuna would stink up St Louis. No one could have predicted that To would be a perpetual albatross. No one could have predicted that Brett Cecil would suck so hard. No one could have predicted that Arozarena would be the best OF of the bunch. No one could have predicted Carlson being completely inept. I mean, any GM would have probably made most of those same decisions. Players have to play well. Herzog once said a good bullpen made him a genius, and a bad bullpen made him stupid. (Paraphrased)

[BrockFloodMaris]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

Well yea I guess if you go by the criteria you never know if a player is going to be good or not then no GM or POBO is ever bad and they’re all good

Part of their job is to evaluate talent. Check the numbers. But at the end of the day, the player has to perform. If they do, you look like a genius, if the don't, you look like a fool. No one could have predicted that Ozuna would stink up St Louis. No one could have predicted that To would be a perpetual albatross. No one could have predicted that Brett Cecil would suck so hard. No one could have predicted that Arozarena would be the best OF of the bunch. No one could have predicted Carlson being completely inept. I mean, any GM would have probably made most of those same decisions. Players have to play well. Herzog once said a good bullpen made him a genius, and a bad bullpen made him stupid. (Paraphrased)

You sure do use the term "no one" an awful lot in your argument above. I would suggest that the best MLB talent evaluators would have made and did make smarter calls than Mo did. As I recall, Cecil had some questionable peripherals, Ozuna had some red flags, O'Neills work-out obsession would make him injury prone, Randy was highly-touted coming out of Cuba and given no real chance in STL (he shared the Shildt video), and many teams passed over Carlson in the draft.

We are trying to hire the best MLB evaluators today to make better decisions going forward.

[Cranny]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

1. Cecil was not that highly regarded. This was during the time (most of Mo's tenure) when he stopped embracing the short term contract. Who gives a lefty reliever 30mil 9 years ago unless he's a stud?
2. The Ozuna trade once again showed MO's lack of embracing the 1-2 year deal for an outfielder (instead of making a big splash). It also showed Mo's lack of talent evaluation by not appropriatedly evaluating Sandy, Zac, Dakota and Weaver.

Lastly, small-to-mid market teams should never be making deals like the Ozuna deal. (Two good prospects for a 2 year rental).

One more thing: Now look at the END of the Ozuna deal. He wanted to stay here. Arozarena was also on the team. MO moves on from Ozuna and trades Arozarena in favor of O'Neill, Bader, Carlson.

Ozuna bookended two examples of bad talent evaluation. Funny.

Posters lauded the Ozuna trade at the time.
He was terrific the year before he came to the Cards.

[rockondlouie]

Bloom has done a terrific job repairing the broken minor league system and his hirings down below are very exciting.

This is one of the reasons, combined w/him hopefully making some solid trades that adds to the system & big league roster as well as some smart (low cost) free agent moves I think this "re-build" could happen a lot, lot quicker than some think.

I still don't see this being a three-four year, 90 loss process.

This winter is going to be fun, can't wait for the roster makeover to begin.

From Bernie today:

If Chaim Bloom makes some low-key but really effective moves the Cardinals can compete sooner than expected with the rebuild still in progress. And he has a great model to follow in the Brewers.

[woofy25]

These are reasons I would keep Walker and Gorman around. Many Cardinals' players have seen success after leaving the organization. Now that new blood has been injected into the organization, maybe those two can improve in St. Louis and help turn around the franchise around. 2026 is already a wash. They're not going to compete for anything. One last opp for those guys to see if any fresh faces can have an impact on them.

[CCard]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

Well yea I guess if you go by the criteria you never know if a player is going to be good or not then no GM or POBO is ever bad and they’re all good

Part of their job is to evaluate talent. Check the numbers. But at the end of the day, the player has to perform. If they do, you look like a genius, if the don't, you look like a fool. No one could have predicted that Ozuna would stink up St Louis. No one could have predicted that To would be a perpetual albatross. No one could have predicted that Brett Cecil would suck so hard. No one could have predicted that Arozarena would be the best OF of the bunch. No one could have predicted Carlson being completely inept. I mean, any GM would have probably made most of those same decisions. Players have to play well. Herzog once said a good bullpen made him a genius, and a bad bullpen made him stupid. (Paraphrased)

You sure do use the term "no one" an awful lot in your argument above. I would suggest that the best MLB talent evaluators would have made and did make smarter calls than Mo did. As I recall, Cecil had some questionable peripherals, Ozuna had some red flags, O'Neills work-out obsession would make him injury prone, Randy was highly-touted coming out of Cuba and given no real chance in STL (he shared the Shildt video), and many teams passed over Carlson in the draft.

We are trying to hire the best MLB evaluators today to make better decisions going forward.

Show me a ballplayer that doesn't have "red flags". Randy was moderately touted and that's a main reason why St Louis got him. He was a little too old for most teams and his performance in St Louis was on again off again. In fact, didn't Texas have him for a while? I'm not saying Mo is some super genius but I am saying that he's been demonized to an extreme when DeWitt is the one that decides who is signed or not.

[Ozziesfan41]

Post Dispatch Ben Hochman had sit down with Cards Asst. GM Rob Cerfolio regarding how Cardinals under Chaim Bloom have already made big steps i improving the Cardinals.

Last year 'Cerf' as he is called said the club hired 20 new coaches/staff last offseason and will hire nearly that number again this year . Cerf said they did some recruiting to find the best teachers. They also invested in new technology like Hawk Eye, Pulse, and Catapult (see article )

Bloom Cerfolio and Larry Day have done a lot already to improve the organization for the long term.
The Pierpont hire to run the pitching side seems quite positive too.

In the article linked, Bloom during his sitdown with Cardinal writers said , 'I don't think any of you would have asked me about our 2022 No .2 pick Brycen Mautz ... Pierpont told Bloom last spring as they observed the kid in spring training , 'That kid is good !' Mautz went on to pitch well this year in Double A finishing 8-3 in 25 starts with a 2.98 ERA He started and won the Texas League title game for Springfield this year. Looks to pitch at Memphis in 2026 . Keep an eye out for him . Sounds to me like Pierpont has a good eye for pitching talent.

Link to full article :

https://www.stltoday.com/sports/column/ ... b6e7d.html

I think I'll reserve judgement until I actually see games played next year. This window dressing (bleep) might be something or it might be nothing. If it worked like that he wouldn't have gotten fired in Boston.

Another poster clueless as to why Bloom didnt work out in Boston. There are loads of articles out there on the sabotage that occurred to Bloom there if you wish to get more informed. But I am guessing it is hust easier to be negative amd complain.

Nobody wants him to succeed more than I. But this need to deify him is pretty ridiculous. Has he ever produced a championship anywhere? You should temper your expectations and cut the guy some slack. When next season passess and ownership still hasn't ponied up for talent, then some of you will start your "Fire Bloom screed". Mo did what he could with the budget he was given. It wasn't good enough to produce seasons that people wanted. Bloom will probably be given the same rope.

Well if he doesn’t waste the budget he is given like mo did then he will be head and shoulders better. Mo was awful with bad contracts and worse extensions just wasting the budget he was given on garbage

That's not totally fair though. I mean, he signed Brett Cecil. At the time they really needed good lefty relief, and Cecil was highly regarded in the AL, but he came to the Cards and didn't live up to his contract. To me, you could say that Mo and his scouts should have known that his peripherals weren't that good, but you have no way of knowing if he'd pitch adequately or better in a Cards uniform. Same with the outfielder they got from the Marlins, he was an all-star for them, then he comes to the Cards and plays like (bleep). Then he goes to the Braves and voila and all-star again. You just can't in all honesty blame Mo for all these things. He might significant moves that looked right but didn't work out good. One can never know if a player is going to play good or not.

Well yea I guess if you go by the criteria you never know if a player is going to be good or not then no GM or POBO is ever bad and they’re all good

Part of their job is to evaluate talent. Check the numbers. But at the end of the day, the player has to perform. If they do, you look like a genius, if the don't, you look like a fool. No one could have predicted that Ozuna would stink up St Louis. No one could have predicted that To would be a perpetual albatross. No one could have predicted that Brett Cecil would suck so hard. No one could have predicted that Arozarena would be the best OF of the bunch. No one could have predicted Carlson being completely inept. I mean, any GM would have probably made most of those same decisions. Players have to play well. Herzog once said a good bullpen made him a genius, and a bad bullpen made him stupid. (Paraphrased)

You sure do use the term "no one" an awful lot in your argument above. I would suggest that the best MLB talent evaluators would have made and did make smarter calls than Mo did. As I recall, Cecil had some questionable peripherals, Ozuna had some red flags, O'Neills work-out obsession would make him injury prone, Randy was highly-touted coming out of Cuba and given no real chance in STL (he shared the Shildt video), and many teams passed over Carlson in the draft.

We are trying to hire the best MLB evaluators today to make better decisions going forward.

Show me a ballplayer that doesn't have "red flags". Randy was moderately touted and that's a main reason why St Louis got him. He was a little too old for most teams and his performance in St Louis was on again off again. In fact, didn't Texas have him for a while? I'm not saying Mo is some super genius but I am saying that he's been demonized to an extreme when DeWitt is the one that decides who is signed or not.

Mo is the one who decided to sign players to stupid extensions and invest long term contracts into mediocre players. He also was very good at keeping the wrong players and continually going with them until they have next to no trade value. He was Also the master of doing the bare minimum to address the teams weaknesses. He was also apparently so traumatized by dealing with Larussa he was compelled to hire rookie managers who were yes men and just grateful to have a job after that