DeWitt III said if 'giant chunk' of payroll traded..will be spent in other areas

[ramfandan]

In news conference yesterday , DeWitt III mentioned this and reported by Derrick Gourld in his article
Bloom will explore trades for Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray, the two highest-paid players on the roster. President Bill DeWitt III said if a “giant chunk” of the payroll is traded, he expected that to be spent on improving the roster in other areas.


Bloom said he plans to look into the free-agent market to fill a need in the rotation, add a veteran reliever for the bullpen and possibly add depth.

[rockondlouie]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

[CCard]

In news conference yesterday , DeWitt III mentioned this and reported by Derrick Gourld in his article
Bloom will explore trades for Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray, the two highest-paid players on the roster. President Bill DeWitt III said if a “giant chunk” of the payroll is traded, he expected that to be spent on improving the roster in other areas.


Bloom said he plans to look into the free-agent market to fill a need in the rotation, add a veteran reliever for the bullpen and possibly add depth.

As I've posted many times on here, nothing gets done without DeWitt's approval. He has a GM that will go through the motions and minutia of deals and contracts but ownership okays money outlay and this cutting of payroll is abhorrent. If you replacement it with similar or better talent before the season starts then it's okay but just to cut payroll and plan on having a losing season is major suckage.

[Whatashame]

You have to be curious about where this is going. I believe Nado is gone. I also believe that the odds are pretty good that Gray is moved. The only question is how much payroll is eaten. Those two represent about 60 million dollars in payroll. Do we eat 30 million of it? 20 million of it? With Mikolas, Fedde, Matz, Helsley also gone, the payroll could drop below 100 million. There has to be money spent. Can you imagine the St Louis Cardinals coming in with a payroll of less than 100 million dollars!!

I think Gray is interesting. How much contract do you eat before it becomes financially viable just to keep him. We need pitching and Gray is still serviceable. Do we eat 10 million of that 35 million he’s owed? 25 million is still a big chunk but maybe in a better ballpark for Sonny. Do we eat 15 million? At 20 million Sonny is a better bargain. Interesting to see what the puke point is on what we will eat.

I think it’s a better than 50/50 chance Contreras is moved. There will be interest in him. How bad does he want to stay here. We have other options for 1B and 18 million for Contreras isn’t the worst deal. An infield of
1B Burleson
2B Wetherholt
SS Winn
3B Donovan
is certainly plausible…..and cheap.

Imagine Arenado, Gray and Contreras all being moved. With the loss of the others (Mikolas, Fedde, Matz, Helsley), that strips our payroll to a bare minimum. There certainly would be dollars to spend. Probably 60-70 million just to get to 2025 levels. What a different time in the STL.

[82birds]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

you mean at the same time?

[butsir01]

More ownership false excuses.

[rockondlouie]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

you mean at the same time?

Yep

[ilcubuffs]

Angel fans got more excitement out of possibility of Pujos as manager than any of Bloom's initial presser.

Sitting and speaking next to -III was bad enough but with him staring at Bloom was beyond bizarre.

Did not miss the word salad. The trite and impertinent answer's that almost everyone knew were lies or incompetent bravado were not missed.

So really comes down to actions vs words. Not a great start with the fans.

[dugoutrex]

In news conference yesterday , DeWitt III mentioned this and reported by Derrick Gourld in his article
Bloom will explore trades for Nolan Arenado and Sonny Gray, the two highest-paid players on the roster. President Bill DeWitt III said if a “giant chunk” of the payroll is traded, he expected that to be spent on improving the roster in other areas.


Bloom said he plans to look into the free-agent market to fill a need in the rotation, add a veteran reliever for the bullpen and possibly add depth.

but not if ... a giant chunk is eaten by the Birds

[Dicktar2023]

It seems like the handwriting is on the wall that Big Man intends for Arenado to come back. NA's not getting younger or cheaper, and his value has only gone down since the spring, when there was not exactly a feeding frenzy over his availability.

I think Gray will be traded, and his salary turned into a couple of overpriced, underperforming short-term SP.

Because it's becoming clear that the future is going to be a lot like the past.

[ScotchMIrish]

A lot of those contracts will be paid by the Cardinals.

[peterman'srealitytour]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

Unless something has changed, I think Gray controls the “pathway” to return to St Louis. Full NTC, as I understand it.

[Midrange Jay]

We have $75 million in payroll commitments next year. We already had half of it come off the books in two years. That’s a pretty big chunk to start with.

[rockondlouie]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

Unless something has changed, I think Gray controls the “pathway” to return to St Louis. Full NTC, as I understand it.

Not necessarily PRT.

Bloom doesn't have to trade him.

If he chooses not to, then Gray will be here on the mound OD 2026.

But he does indeed have a full NTC, so he'd have to approve any trade Bloom "might" bring to him.

[Goldfan]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

Unless something has changed, I think Gray controls the “pathway” to return to St Louis. Full NTC, as I understand it.

Not necessarily PRT.

Bloom doesn't have to trade him.

If he chooses not to, then Gray will be here on the mound OD 2026.

But he does indeed have a full NTC, so he'd have to approve any trade Bloom "might" bring to him.

Oh the promise of FREED UP MONEY next season……Are you fellas falling for that one again…..Almost every year theres this mysterious freed up money from ending contracts….we see it.
And just as magically it somehow evaporates(arbitration, current salary increases…..) poof all gone…..BDW magic

[rockondlouie]

It appears he's for sure dealing NADO but this statement from J. Denton makes me wonder if he has other plans for S. Gray:

Bloom does feel there is a more realistic pathway to the veteran right-hander’s return to St. Louis next season.

If he keeps Gray, then it may show Bloom has some ideas on how to walk (keep acquiring players/prospects via trades and smart FA signings) & chew gum (still compete which could help bolster attendance and thus payroll in 2027).

Unless something has changed, I think Gray controls the “pathway” to return to St Louis. Full NTC, as I understand it.

Not necessarily PRT.

Bloom doesn't have to trade him.

If he chooses not to, then Gray will be here on the mound OD 2026.

But he does indeed have a full NTC, so he'd have to approve any trade Bloom "might" bring to him.

Oh the promise of FREED UP MONEY next season……Are you fellas falling for that one again…..Almost every year theres this mysterious freed up money from ending contracts….we see it.
And just as magically it somehow evaporates(arbitration, current salary increases…..) poof all gone…..BDW magic

Not me GF, I have never "fallen" for anything.

I figured out many years ago how BDWJr operates in good times (re: 3+M attendance) where he'd only spend money from expiring or traded contracts.

In bad times like 2024/2025 he simply puts the huge payroll slashing savings into his pocket.