Will I see another Cardinal world series

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

[OldRed]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

I had you in mind, no offense. The entire point is, once you fall so far, it’s tough to catch up. We stayed relevant reference FA and trades for decades. Kept us in the hunt.

Now that we are further down the food chain, a place we have not been since 90’s, we are finding how tough it is to catch up, if ever.

Have we degraded to a point of no return.

[alw80]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

With the parity they are pushing everybody gets a turn so you should.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

With the parity they are pushing everybody gets a turn so you should.

Again I use the OP as a frame of reference only, not a personal eulogy.

Does anyone here believe they make a WS by 2030, five years. My point isn’t that we aren’t in WS, it’s not that we have fallen, it’s where we have fallen to. Like life, you get too far behind the eight ball, no shot.

[Cranny]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

I had you in mind, no offense. The entire point is, once you fall so far, it’s tough to catch up. We stayed relevant reference FA and trades for decades. Kept us in the hunt.

Now that we are further down the food chain, a place we have not been since 90’s, we are finding how tough it is to catch up, if ever.

Have we degraded to a point of no return.

How very sad.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

I had you in mind, no offense. The entire point is, once you fall so far, it’s tough to catch up. We stayed relevant reference FA and trades for decades. Kept us in the hunt.

Now that we are further down the food chain, a place we have not been since 90’s, we are finding how tough it is to catch up, if ever.

Have we degraded to a point of no return.

How very sad.

It is sad. But we are truly at a low point in the franchise history. 18 years is our record, 1964-1982.

In six years, we tie that mark. I ask you, do you think we make a WS in the next six years.

That’s the point. Sad.

[hotrivets]

I'm in the same boat. Previously players had a reason beyond money to join the Cardinals because the organization was so strong in all aspects. Professionals running every function. The current owners either don't see it or don't care. Cardinal baseball has been a summer tradition all my life but that boat has sailed.

[sikeston bulldog2]

I'm in the same boat. Previously players had a reason beyond money to join the Cardinals because the organization was so strong in all aspects. Professionals running every function. The current owners either don't see it or don't care. Cardinal baseball has been a summer tradition all my life but that boat has sailed.

Yea. Not a boat of pity. A boat of matter of fact. We have dropped a tier or two reference relevance. Not having been in this position often, we are now reminded as to why we don’t want to be here.

[Voldemort]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

No, you and I will not see another Cardinal World Series. We were fortunate to live in a time when this franchise was at its peak. Now, it has settled for being a business and nothing more. If the Cardinals win a few, ownership makes money. If it loses a few, then tax write off.

[Cranny]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

I had you in mind, no offense. The entire point is, once you fall so far, it’s tough to catch up. We stayed relevant reference FA and trades for decades. Kept us in the hunt.

Now that we are further down the food chain, a place we have not been since 90’s, we are finding how tough it is to catch up, if ever.

Have we degraded to a point of no return.

How very sad.

It is sad. But we are truly at a low point in the franchise history. 18 years is our record, 1964-1982.

In six years, we tie that mark. I ask you, do you think we make a WS in the next six years.

That’s the point. Sad.

I’ve been very privileged to be a Cardinal fan for many years. The highlight was taking my 11 year old son to game 7 of the 1982 World Series. It was magical. We went on the field with thousands of other fans after the last out. Stood at home plate. Stood on the pitcher’s mound. 1985 and 1987 were exciting years. And the cherries on top of the sundae were 2006 and 2011. The Freese miracle? It simply doesn’t get any better than that.

So would it be nice to win another WS? Sure. For younger fans who haven’t experienced that delight.

[ecleme22]

World Series? Who knows.

Watching a team with sustained success and the ability to go deep in the playoffs? I'd say it'll fun by 2027.

Maybe even 2026 will be fun.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

No, you and I will not see another Cardinal World Series. We were fortunate to live in a time when this franchise was at its peak. Now, it has settled for being a business and nothing more. If the Cardinals win a few, ownership makes money. If it loses a few, then tax write off.

Yea, it was early, 5 ish this morning, C2- coffee and cannabis, make for a chatty thread.

I got to thinking about how long it might truly be to another WS, based on the caliber of play in the post season. I reminded myself we were already 12 years deep.

Then I thought man, that’s only six years, I won’t live much past that, ha.

Then I originally was gonna replace the OP with decade. Same time frame.

[sikeston bulldog2]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

I had you in mind, no offense. The entire point is, once you fall so far, it’s tough to catch up. We stayed relevant reference FA and trades for decades. Kept us in the hunt.

Now that we are further down the food chain, a place we have not been since 90’s, we are finding how tough it is to catch up, if ever.

Have we degraded to a point of no return.

How very sad.

It is sad. But we are truly at a low point in the franchise history. 18 years is our record, 1964-1982.

In six years, we tie that mark. I ask you, do you think we make a WS in the next six years.

That’s the point. Sad.

I’ve been very privileged to be a Cardinal fan for many years. The highlight was taking my 11 year old son to game 7 of the 1982 World Series. It was magical. We went on the field with thousands of other fans after the last out. Stood at home plate. Stood on the pitcher’s mound. 1985 and 1987 were exciting years. And the cherries on top of the sundae were 2006 and 2011. The Freese miracle? It simply doesn’t get any better than that.

So would it be nice to win another WS? Sure. For younger fans who haven’t experienced that delight.

I didn’t say win. I said appearance. An easier objective. Sure you enjoyed the past accomplishments, we all have. Not the point. The point is we have fallen from tier 2 to tier three reference relevancy, and that fall in today’s market, might be deep.

[Jatalk]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

At 80 years old I doubt that I will. And I doubt Mr. DeWitt will also.

I had you in mind, no offense. The entire point is, once you fall so far, it’s tough to catch up. We stayed relevant reference FA and trades for decades. Kept us in the hunt.

Now that we are further down the food chain, a place we have not been since 90’s, we are finding how tough it is to catch up, if ever.

Have we degraded to a point of no return.

How very sad.

It is sad. But we are truly at a low point in the franchise history. 18 years is our record, 1964-1982.

In six years, we tie that mark. I ask you, do you think we make a WS in the next six years.

That’s the point. Sad.

I am reaching 70 in December. I have faith that I will see a Cardinal team that strongly competes to be in the WS. It may take a break or two but it will happen and before 2030.

Tell you what. Don’t know you and you don’t know me but if I can still travel I will buy you a ticket for WS game one, a hot dog and a soda. Keep the faith.

[brock118]

Good morning.

Maybe so; maybe no. Pushing 70. Great health. Gives me 10-15 years.

We haven’t been in 12 years. Our franchise long is 18 years. And we are not close to stopping this streak.

My take. The organization has allowed itself to fall a level, reference relevance. We used to be a 1B level team. Now we are a 3, out of five levels.

At a 1B level, we could compete and compete for players, both FA and trade. Not any more. We don’t have the resources.

Problems. Once you fall so far, the team and city loses its allure. No one wants to come. That’s an issue.

A team with no star power. Simply won’t get it. Look at post season. How do we get a star. First, who and where is this stud. Second what are we gonna trade? Third, will he sign here as FA? These are issues.

Once you fall too far, it’s hard to recover. Pittsburgh has the best pitcher in baseball yet….

Since 2000, 20 different teams have made WS. This year, 4 of the remaining 10 are still in post season. Seattle has never been.

Again at my age, I may age out. I ask again- where and who is the stud we can get? This is a deep hole.

I don’t see it.

Actually the record is from 1903-1926 our first World Series so 24 years is our longest drought. Something tells me we might break thar one.