They keep Oli and

[dugoutrex]

High Em is thinking about an extension apparently

[20th Century Boy]

Yea, I was done in August.

Won't come back until both Bloom and Marmol are gone.

His first move/announcement is all I needed to hear.

Good luck.

[rockondlouie]

BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

I'm not so sure Marmol is the guy to be nurturing young players. Look at Gorman, Scott and Walker. And has Noot gotten better as he has aged out of his youth under Oli? And what about Pallante?

I think it's a mistake not to have your guy in place from the beginning to instill the winning culture in these young players that you want to be instilled.

IMO icon those young players (Gorman, Walker, Scott, etal) are a bi-product of Mo's horrible minor league player development system.

I put the blame for their failures on the entire system, including Oli who didn't do anything to help them.

Noot is a mystery, aside from the obvious (injuries) he's still a stat cast favorite and why he regressed in 2025 is a mystery.

Trust me, I'm NOT AN OLI FAN and have been calling for him to be fired since he e f f e d up Game 1 of the Phillies series!

But I also knew what BDWJr was going to do and it makes sense to have him cheerleading the young players who come up in 2026 (and have had the benefit of C. Bloom's system he began putting in place in 2024).

But people on here claim oli is a good teacher. And has the respect of the clubhouse.

He should've been canned two years ago. But Mozeliak wasn't serious about winning anything. And DeWitt was busy counting money.

He's definitely not much of "teacher" at this level, can't think of a player he's helped make better (you'd have to credit Brown for Burleson's assent at the plate).

I'd have fired him after that Phillies Game 1 debacle, he showed there he didn't have the chops to be a major league manager.

And he's shown little to no growth, outside of bullpen management.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom gets to hire his guy in 2027.

BDWJr made this call, wasn't going to pay Oli to sit on his a z z in a 2026 throwaway season.

[riff raff]

Blaming BDW. How predictable

[Bob Kunush]

For you who still have an open mind try listening to others who might be closer to the situation who have a different take on this. Bernie presented a great overview of great managers and how they struggled and made errors in their first playoff games. Herzog was so maligned for his playoff management in Kansas City that they fired him despite constant success. LaRussa took a long time to win his first playoff series aava manager and it took him 8 years in St Lous to win a pennant. I am old enough to remember the same kind of screaming voices calling for LaRussa to be fired constantly in the early years. Herzog was accused by many of mismanging the 1985 world series by not pitching a hot Danny Cox at home to shut down the Royals before they ever had to go back to KC.

So Walker, Pallant, and Gorman dkd not succeed. That's on Oli but he has nothing to do with the success of Burleson? Several of the young players held their own and several young pitchers made great steps forward. Most of his players have limited talent and it shows. The team outperformed their expectations for two years. They just dont have a lot of talent.

I would have been fine replacing Oli if it was a forward thinking move. I am sure there are better managers out there but the amount of dislike this guy gets on here is childish. Pujols and Molina hires at this time would hsve been to appease fans since neither has much experience in management or player development. Oli is still a young manager. I suggest you look up the beginnings of many managers to see just how successful they werent in their early years.

[JuanAgosto]

BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

I'm not so sure Marmol is the guy to be nurturing young players. Look at Gorman, Scott and Walker. And has Noot gotten better as he has aged out of his youth under Oli? And what about Pallante?

I think it's a mistake not to have your guy in place from the beginning to instill the winning culture in these young players that you want to be instilled.

IMO icon those young players (Gorman, Walker, Scott, etal) are a bi-product of Mo's horrible minor league player development system.

I put the blame for their failures on the entire system, including Oli who didn't do anything to help them.

Noot is a mystery, aside from the obvious (injuries) he's still a stat cast favorite and why he regressed in 2025 is a mystery.

Trust me, I'm NOT AN OLI FAN and have been calling for him to be fired since he e f f e d up Game 1 of the Phillies series!

But I also knew what BDWJr was going to do and it makes sense to have him cheerleading the young players who come up in 2026 (and have had the benefit of C. Bloom's system he began putting in place in 2024).

But people on here claim oli is a good teacher. And has the respect of the clubhouse.

He should've been canned two years ago. But Mozeliak wasn't serious about winning anything. And DeWitt was busy counting money.

He's definitely not much of "teacher" at this level, can't think of a player he's helped make better (you'd have to credit Brown for Burleson's assent at the plate).

I'd have fired him after that Phillies Game 1 debacle, he showed there he didn't have the chops to be a major league manager.

And he's shown little to no growth, outside of bullpen management.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom gets to hire his guy in 2027.

BDWJr made this call, wasn't going to pay Oli to sit on his a z z in a 2026 throwaway season.

Probably the correct move for 2026. John Mozeliak cocked up this organization so much that a desirable manager would have an interest right now. Hopefully, Bloom can improve the roster and vision of the future to entice a solid candidate next year.

[Melville]

For the 100th time. Oli had a bad roster and there was no way this team was going to be competitive. Plus, he did not hit, pitch nor take the field.

Yadi is a fan favorite, but what makes you think he would be a good manager...one year of managing in Puerto Rico?

If you are really not going to see any games because of the manager, then you're not a real fan. If you think anyone will miss you, you're also delusional.

Worth noting STL controlled a W/C spot in July last year and this year - and fell apart like a wet paper towel down the stretch both times.
100% on The Marmot.

[Dicktar2023]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Exactly.

Most of us spent YEARS wanting Mo gone and someone else in the POBO seat. Let’s let the guy do his job.

His job is to reshape this organization.

His first move was to stay the course.

The optimism that a single thing has changed with this team is unfounded. I promise you, somewhere Bloom and his team are working hard on a spreadsheet that shows his boss how they could add a veteran pitcher on a one year deal, and add a RH bench bat, and if everything goes perfectly, the team could win 83 games next year.

I guarantee you that's the conversation going on right now. Exactly the same conversation Mo was having a year ago. For exactly the same reason.

[Melville]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Retaining The Marmot as his first significant decision does not engender trust.
Strike 1.
And not just any Strike 1.
Bloom just swung and missed on a pickoff throw to first base.

[Melville]

He’s under contract I fully expected him to stay.

The contract "stays".

[JuanAgosto]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Retaining The Marmot as his first significant decision does not engender trust.
Strike 1.
And not just any Strike 1.
Bloom just swung and missed on a pickoff throw to first base.

Who better is Bloom hiring with this roster? It'll take some productive moves to lure a good manager.

[Carp4Cy]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Needs to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Focus on both the MiLB development AND the MLB team and boosting ticket sales to support the org going forward. That's a PoBo's frikken job.

[icon]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Needs to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Focus on both the MiLB development AND the MLB team and boosting ticket sales to support the org going forward. That's a PoBo's frikken job.

And deciding on a manaer is a "bigger thing." Not sure how it's not.

[rockondlouie]

BDWJr knows he's not putting much (if any) real money into the 2026 team so this was pretty easy to see coming.

At his core Oli is a minor league manager, better at nurturing young players than he is managing major leaguers.

So him staying makes sense given we could see more young players filtering up through the system to St. Louis.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom will be scouting his managerial candidates, making a list and will hiring his guy after the 2026 season.

I'm not so sure Marmol is the guy to be nurturing young players. Look at Gorman, Scott and Walker. And has Noot gotten better as he has aged out of his youth under Oli? And what about Pallante?

I think it's a mistake not to have your guy in place from the beginning to instill the winning culture in these young players that you want to be instilled.

IMO icon those young players (Gorman, Walker, Scott, etal) are a bi-product of Mo's horrible minor league player development system.

I put the blame for their failures on the entire system, including Oli who didn't do anything to help them.

Noot is a mystery, aside from the obvious (injuries) he's still a stat cast favorite and why he regressed in 2025 is a mystery.

Trust me, I'm NOT AN OLI FAN and have been calling for him to be fired since he e f f e d up Game 1 of the Phillies series!

But I also knew what BDWJr was going to do and it makes sense to have him cheerleading the young players who come up in 2026 (and have had the benefit of C. Bloom's system he began putting in place in 2024).

But people on here claim oli is a good teacher. And has the respect of the clubhouse.

He should've been canned two years ago. But Mozeliak wasn't serious about winning anything. And DeWitt was busy counting money.

He's definitely not much of "teacher" at this level, can't think of a player he's helped make better (you'd have to credit Brown for Burleson's assent at the plate).

I'd have fired him after that Phillies Game 1 debacle, he showed there he didn't have the chops to be a major league manager.

And he's shown little to no growth, outside of bullpen management.

JMO, but I think C. Bloom gets to hire his guy in 2027.

BDWJr made this call, wasn't going to pay Oli to sit on his a z z in a 2026 throwaway season.

Probably the correct move for 2026. John Mozeliak cocked up this organization so much that a desirable manager would have an interest right now. Hopefully, Bloom can improve the roster and vision of the future to entice a solid candidate next year.

Yep

Given BDWJr see's 2026 as a throwaway season before the new CBA is negotiated.

Mo left Bloom a massive mess.

He's already cleaned up the minor league system, now the work begins on the ML roster.

I trust Bloom, he made some very smart trades in Boston (re: TGKS) and I hope he does that this winter too!

My dream get is K. Cash, trade the Rays Gorman or Walker for him.

[dugoutrex]

For the 100th time. Oli had a bad roster and there was no way this team was going to be competitive. Plus, he did not hit, pitch nor take the field.

Yadi is a fan favorite, but what makes you think he would be a good manager...one year of managing in Puerto Rico?

If you are really not going to see any games because of the manager, then you're not a real fan. If you think anyone will miss you, you're also delusional.

Worth noting STL controlled a W/C spot in July last year and this year - and fell apart like a wet paper towel down the stretch both times.
100% on The Marmot.

are you on break ... AGAIN?

[desertrat23]

I trust Bloom.

He knows what fans think of Oli. He’s focusing on bigger things.

Needs to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Focus on both the MiLB development AND the MLB team and boosting ticket sales to support the org going forward. That's a PoBo's frikken job.

He’s had the job for four days. How do we know he’s not?