Who was the biggest bust

[C-Unit]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

[Cranny]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

Gorman for me. He just didn't have the discipline to work the strike zone. But he did hit close to 75 home runs in his time with the Cardinals. I thought he would be a 35 to 40 home run guy on an annual basis.

[C-Unit]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

You think a perennial 30 home run rightfielder would be more valuable than a switch-hitting 5 tool CF or a perennial ace (all-star game starter type) pitcher?

What was your rose colored glasses case for Walker? I want to see.

[Ozziesfan41]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

I wouldn’t say Martinez he has a good to great 3 seasons as a starter with 2 all star appearances before injuries derailed his career. Reyes was another derailed by injuries. For me it’s Dylan Carlson. Gorman I never expected much out of him because he has so many holes in his swing and isn’t disciplined at the plate.

[C-Unit]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

I wouldn’t say Martinez he has a good to great 3 seasons as a starter with 2 all star appearances before injuries derailed his career. Reyes was another derailed by injuries. For me it’s Dylan Carlson. Gorman I never expected much out of him because he has so many holes in his swing and isn’t disciplined at the plate.

Let me frame the question in a different way. Not the player who was the biggest bust. The player that would have made the biggest positive impact if they reached their FULL potential. That's why I'm saying it's hard to argue with Martinez, if he had done the same thing for 10-12 seasons that he did for 3.

[RamFan08NY]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

You think a perennial 30 home run rightfielder would be more valuable than a switch-hitting 5 tool CF or a perennial ace (all-star game starter type) pitcher?

What was your rose colored glasses case for Walker? I want to see.

The question wasnt who would be more valuable, it was who was the biggest bust. I agree it was Walker. He was the #2 prospect in all of baseball. Neither Reyes or Carlson were projected to be the phenom that Walker was projected.
Hands down. JW was the biggest bust.

[Ozziesfan41]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

I wouldn’t say Martinez he has a good to great 3 seasons as a starter with 2 all star appearances before injuries derailed his career. Reyes was another derailed by injuries. For me it’s Dylan Carlson. Gorman I never expected much out of him because he has so many holes in his swing and isn’t disciplined at the plate.

Let me frame the question in a different way. Not the player who was the biggest bust. The player that would have made the biggest positive impact if they reached their FULL potential. That's why I'm saying it's hard to argue with Martinez, if he had done the same thing for 10-12 seasons that he did for 3.

Oh if that’s the criteria then yea Martinez he’s the only one who ever had great success at the major league level and he was good to great his only three years as a starter won 14, 16, 12 games his last injury free season he had 205 strike outs in 217 innings. Then he got derailed by injuries the cardinals were dumb throwing him in the bullpen his first two seasons then when he had injuries would rush him back and throw him in the bullpen just dumb mishandling on cards part. But yea if injuries didn’t derail him he was going to be great

[C-Unit]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

I wouldn’t say Martinez he has a good to great 3 seasons as a starter with 2 all star appearances before injuries derailed his career. Reyes was another derailed by injuries. For me it’s Dylan Carlson. Gorman I never expected much out of him because he has so many holes in his swing and isn’t disciplined at the plate.

Let me frame the question in a different way. Not the player who was the biggest bust. The player that would have made the biggest positive impact if they reached their FULL potential. That's why I'm saying it's hard to argue with Martinez, if he had done the same thing for 10-12 seasons that he did for 3.

Oh if that’s the criteria then yea Martinez he’s the only one who ever had great success at the major league level and he was good to great his only three years as a starter won 14, 16, 12 games his last injury free season he had 205 strike outs in 217 innings. Then he got derailed by injuries the cardinals were dumb throwing him in the bullpen his first two seasons then when he had injuries would rush him back and throw him in the bullpen just dumb mishandling on cards part. But yea if injuries didn’t derail him he was going to be great

I'm with you on Carlson too.

[C-Unit]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

You think a perennial 30 home run rightfielder would be more valuable than a switch-hitting 5 tool CF or a perennial ace (all-star game starter type) pitcher?

What was your rose colored glasses case for Walker? I want to see.

The question wasnt who would be more valuable, it was who was the biggest bust. I agree it was Walker. He was the #2 prospect in all of baseball. Neither Reyes or Carlson were projected to be the phenom that Walker was projected.
Hands down. JW was the biggest bust.

Yeah, you can frame it that way. Walker so far has flopped.

[Ozziesfan41]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

I wouldn’t say Martinez he has a good to great 3 seasons as a starter with 2 all star appearances before injuries derailed his career. Reyes was another derailed by injuries. For me it’s Dylan Carlson. Gorman I never expected much out of him because he has so many holes in his swing and isn’t disciplined at the plate.

Let me frame the question in a different way. Not the player who was the biggest bust. The player that would have made the biggest positive impact if they reached their FULL potential. That's why I'm saying it's hard to argue with Martinez, if he had done the same thing for 10-12 seasons that he did for 3.

Oh if that’s the criteria then yea Martinez he’s the only one who ever had great success at the major league level and he was good to great his only three years as a starter won 14, 16, 12 games his last injury free season he had 205 strike outs in 217 innings. Then he got derailed by injuries the cardinals were dumb throwing him in the bullpen his first two seasons then when he had injuries would rush him back and throw him in the bullpen just dumb mishandling on cards part. But yea if injuries didn’t derail him he was going to be great

I'm with you on Carlson too.

Got the numbers reversed Martinez had 217 strikeouts in 205 innings that’s ace level stuff then injuries derailed him

[RamFan08NY]

I'm gonna make a list of players, who may or may not be considered "busts" based on how you define the word. I want you to compare each name to the wildest rose colored glasses view you ever had of said name. Which scenario would have made the biggest difference on the franchise over the last 10 years?

Carlos Martinez
Alex Reyes
Dylan Carlson
Nolan Gorman
Jordan Walker

For me it's a tie between either of the pitchers (Carlos Martinez becoming Pedro Jr or Alex Reyes throwing 200 innings and striking out 300), and Dylan Carlson if he had become more like the last switch-hitting rightfielder that wore #3 (the potential for a 20/30 high on-base switch-hitting centerfielder would have pretty impactful... especially in those lineups that had Goldschmidt and N. Arenado performing still at their best).

Feel free to throw out another name but I'm not talking about the Aledmys Diaz's of the world this is about former high-ranked prospects that were seen as future organization mainstays. We all know about the Taveras one, let's start after that.

I wouldn’t say Martinez he has a good to great 3 seasons as a starter with 2 all star appearances before injuries derailed his career. Reyes was another derailed by injuries. For me it’s Dylan Carlson. Gorman I never expected much out of him because he has so many holes in his swing and isn’t disciplined at the plate.

Let me frame the question in a different way. Not the player who was the biggest bust. The player that would have made the biggest positive impact if they reached their FULL potential. That's why I'm saying it's hard to argue with Martinez, if he had done the same thing for 10-12 seasons that he did for 3.

Oh if that’s the criteria then yea Martinez he’s the only one who ever had great success at the major league level and he was good to great his only three years as a starter won 14, 16, 12 games his last injury free season he had 205 strike outs in 217 innings. Then he got derailed by injuries the cardinals were dumb throwing him in the bullpen his first two seasons then when he had injuries would rush him back and throw him in the bullpen just dumb mishandling on cards part. But yea if injuries didn’t derail him he was going to be great

I'm with you on Carlson too.

Got the numbers reversed Martinez had 217 strikeouts in 205 innings that’s ace level stuff then injuries derailed him

Injuries and a little bit of Andujar head. But he sure did have a bright future before the injuries.

[Cranny]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

You think a perennial 30 home run rightfielder would be more valuable than a switch-hitting 5 tool CF or a perennial ace (all-star game starter type) pitcher?

What was your rose colored glasses case for Walker? I want to see.

Check where he was rated as a MLB prospect. #4 prospect in all the minor leagues in 2023. Have you ever seen him up close and personal? He’s a mountain of a man.

[C-Unit]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

You think a perennial 30 home run rightfielder would be more valuable than a switch-hitting 5 tool CF or a perennial ace (all-star game starter type) pitcher?

What was your rose colored glasses case for Walker? I want to see.

Check where he was rated as a MLB prospect. #4 prospect in all the minor leagues in 2023. Have you ever seen him up close and personal? He’s a mountain of a man.

If he could have became a perennial 45+ homer guy then he would have certainly been an organizational game changer.

[Cranny]

For me it’s Jordan Walker. Tremendous potential.

You think a perennial 30 home run rightfielder would be more valuable than a switch-hitting 5 tool CF or a perennial ace (all-star game starter type) pitcher?

What was your rose colored glasses case for Walker? I want to see.

Check where he was rated as a MLB prospect. #4 prospect in all the minor leagues in 2023. Have you ever seen him up close and personal? He’s a mountain of a man.

If he could have became a perennial 45+ homer guy then he would have certainly been an organizational game changer.

First time after going to Spring Training for many years that I saw a crowd gathered behind the left field fence when he came up during batting practice.

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Randy Flores