What’s a reason to watch Cardinals next season?

[alw80]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

What was a reason to watch the Cardinals the last 10 seasons?

[Goldfan]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

What was a reason to watch the Cardinals the last 10 seasons?

They had a couple nice seasons in there…..Goldy MVP ‘22. But since then it’s been a disaster with no upside on the horizon except a promise to draft and develop better??? We all know how that road looks and the extended timeline.

[Strummer Jones]

Given the response here on CT it would appear that BDW has a captured base and he has to do nothing to keep your eyeballs. Perhaps that’s part of the problem. Why spend money to keep fans if they’re going nowhere no matter the lethargy, ineptitude, and arrogance displayed by the ownership/FO
Braves have a bad season and their long time WS winning manager is out
Cards roll off another stinker….about same record as Braves…and their Oli stays, even though he is void of a Snitker pedigree

It's almost like Snitker had a way more talented team and had higher expectation than us yet they finished with a slightly worse W/L record.

Nah. That can't be it.

Sure, but one bad season after all that winning after being in the org for 40+yrs…….some owners want results and expect to win.
That isn’t the case here.
Why not just sweep the rug and get a clean slate…… Oli is a nobody and I’m sure he’s not making much money

But a bad season with WAY better talent.

You and I both know that Oli didn't have anyone coming through those doors like Acuna, Matt Olson, Chris Sale, Drake Baldwin, Sean Murphy, etc. In fact, on a positional breakdown by WAR on baseballreference.com.

C: 1.4 Pedro Page/3.3 Drake Baldwin. Sean Murphy also out WAR'd Pages by a significant margin.
1B: 2.6 Willson Contreras/6.1 Matt Olson
2B: 2.7 Brendan Donovan/2.2 Ozzie Albies--Hey look, we won one here!
SS: 2.2 Masyn Winn/0.6 Nick Allen--Another win!
3B: 1.3 Arenado/1.3 Austin Riley. I'm going to wager that most of Arenado's WAR came from defense.
LF: 1.3 Nootbaar/1.0 Jurickson Profar (but also .7 from Eli White--who played a lot of LF while Profar was suspended.)
CF: 2.2 VSII/ 2.1 Michael Harris. Though Harris was a superior hitter and probably equal on defense. I'm guessing Scott gets the edge based on stolen bases.
RF: -1.6 Jordan Walker/3.1 Acuna.
DH: 2.2 Ivan Herrera/1.6 Marcell Ozuna.

Cardinal WAR: 13 even. Atlanta WAR (and not counting Eli White): 21.5. If you add Alec Burleson, that bumps us to 14.8. If you use him in lieu of Jordan Walker, that puts us at 17.7. If you consider an average starting player to have a WAR of 2ish, that puts us around two average starting players behind Atlanta. Or one star player.

Let's look at starting pitching. I guess they ordered these pitchers by games started:

SP1: 1.4 Sonny Gray/-.4 Bryce Elder--okay, that looks good.
SP2: -1.3 Andre Pallante/3.9 Chris Sale--Oh no.
SP3:.3 Miles Mikolas/1 Spencer Strider
SP4: .9 Matthew Liberatore/1.4 Grant Holmes
SP5: -.1 Erick Fedde/2.2 Spencer Schwellenbach
SP6: .7 Michael McGreey/-.2 Joey Wentz

Cardinal SP WAR: 1.9. Wow. Braves SP WAR: 7.9. Our best--Gray--would've been, at best, the third starter in Atlanta. Maybe fourth, depending on how you want to cut it.

That's a big difference. Bullpen WAR comes out roughly even. So does bench WAR. But on the two areas that I think mean the most success in Major League Baseball, starting lineup and starting rotation, the Braves win, and it's not that close. Yet, they lost two more games than us. They hit better than us, and pitched better than us. And they still had a worse season. Oh, and they didn't have three teams in their division that made the play-offs like we did.

So what this tells me is that Oli, for his flaws, did a little bit more with a hell of a lot less than what Snitker had in a division that ended up being tougher than what Snitker had to face.

I'm not going to tell you that Marmol is a HoF manager. But the idea that he's some inept dunderhead is provably false. What this tells me is that we're still not putting enough fault on Mozeliak and DeWitt for how mediocre this team has been.

[scoutyjones2]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

You're a fan of the Cards and baseball thru the great times and the down.

Not fair weather

[Goldfan]

Given the response here on CT it would appear that BDW has a captured base and he has to do nothing to keep your eyeballs. Perhaps that’s part of the problem. Why spend money to keep fans if they’re going nowhere no matter the lethargy, ineptitude, and arrogance displayed by the ownership/FO
Braves have a bad season and their long time WS winning manager is out
Cards roll off another stinker….about same record as Braves…and their Oli stays, even though he is void of a Snitker pedigree

It's almost like Snitker had a way more talented team and had higher expectation than us yet they finished with a slightly worse W/L record.

Nah. That can't be it.

Sure, but one bad season after all that winning after being in the org for 40+yrs…….some owners want results and expect to win.
That isn’t the case here.
Why not just sweep the rug and get a clean slate…… Oli is a nobody and I’m sure he’s not making much money

But a bad season with WAY better talent.

You and I both know that Oli didn't have anyone coming through those doors like Acuna, Matt Olson, Chris Sale, Drake Baldwin, Sean Murphy, etc. In fact, on a positional breakdown by WAR on baseballreference.com.

C: 1.4 Pedro Page/3.3 Drake Baldwin. Sean Murphy also out WAR'd Pages by a significant margin.
1B: 2.6 Willson Contreras/6.1 Matt Olson
2B: 2.7 Brendan Donovan/2.2 Ozzie Albies--Hey look, we won one here!
SS: 2.2 Masyn Winn/0.6 Nick Allen--Another win!
3B: 1.3 Arenado/1.3 Austin Riley. I'm going to wager that most of Arenado's WAR came from defense.
LF: 1.3 Nootbaar/1.0 Jurickson Profar (but also .7 from Eli White--who played a lot of LF while Profar was suspended.)
CF: 2.2 VSII/ 2.1 Michael Harris. Though Harris was a superior hitter and probably equal on defense. I'm guessing Scott gets the edge based on stolen bases.
RF: -1.6 Jordan Walker/3.1 Acuna.
DH: 2.2 Ivan Herrera/1.6 Marcell Ozuna.

Cardinal WAR: 13 even. Atlanta WAR (and not counting Eli White): 21.5. If you add Alec Burleson, that bumps us to 14.8. If you use him in lieu of Jordan Walker, that puts us at 17.7. If you consider an average starting player to have a WAR of 2ish, that puts us around two average starting players behind Atlanta. Or one star player.

Let's look at starting pitching. I guess they ordered these pitchers by games started:

SP1: 1.4 Sonny Gray/-.4 Bryce Elder--okay, that looks good.
SP2: -1.3 Andre Pallante/3.9 Chris Sale--Oh no.
SP3:.3 Miles Mikolas/1 Spencer Strider
SP4: .9 Matthew Liberatore/1.4 Grant Holmes
SP5: -.1 Erick Fedde/2.2 Spencer Schwellenbach
SP6: .7 Michael McGreey/-.2 Joey Wentz

Cardinal SP WAR: 1.9. Wow. Braves SP WAR: 7.9. Our best--Gray--would've been, at best, the third starter in Atlanta. Maybe fourth, depending on how you want to cut it.

That's a big difference. Bullpen WAR comes out roughly even. So does bench WAR. But on the two areas that I think mean the most success in Major League Baseball, starting lineup and starting rotation, the Braves win, and it's not that close. Yet, they lost two more games than us. They hit better than us, and pitched better than us. And they still had a worse season. Oh, and they didn't have three teams in their division that made the play-offs like we did.

So what this tells me is that Oli, for his flaws, did a little bit more with a hell of a lot less than what Snitker had in a division that ended up being tougher than what Snitker had to face.

I'm not going to tell you that Marmol is a HoF manager. But the idea that he's some inept dunderhead is provably false. What this tells me is that we're still not putting enough fault on Mozeliak and DeWitt for how mediocre this team has been.

Riley 102 games
Profar 80
Acura 95
Murphy 94

Sale 20 GS
Strider 23
Holmes 21
Schwellenbach 17

The talent wasn’t on the field…….

[Strummer Jones]

Given the response here on CT it would appear that BDW has a captured base and he has to do nothing to keep your eyeballs. Perhaps that’s part of the problem. Why spend money to keep fans if they’re going nowhere no matter the lethargy, ineptitude, and arrogance displayed by the ownership/FO
Braves have a bad season and their long time WS winning manager is out
Cards roll off another stinker….about same record as Braves…and their Oli stays, even though he is void of a Snitker pedigree

It's almost like Snitker had a way more talented team and had higher expectation than us yet they finished with a slightly worse W/L record.

Nah. That can't be it.

Sure, but one bad season after all that winning after being in the org for 40+yrs…….some owners want results and expect to win.
That isn’t the case here.
Why not just sweep the rug and get a clean slate…… Oli is a nobody and I’m sure he’s not making much money

But a bad season with WAY better talent.

You and I both know that Oli didn't have anyone coming through those doors like Acuna, Matt Olson, Chris Sale, Drake Baldwin, Sean Murphy, etc. In fact, on a positional breakdown by WAR on baseballreference.com.

C: 1.4 Pedro Page/3.3 Drake Baldwin. Sean Murphy also out WAR'd Pages by a significant margin.
1B: 2.6 Willson Contreras/6.1 Matt Olson
2B: 2.7 Brendan Donovan/2.2 Ozzie Albies--Hey look, we won one here!
SS: 2.2 Masyn Winn/0.6 Nick Allen--Another win!
3B: 1.3 Arenado/1.3 Austin Riley. I'm going to wager that most of Arenado's WAR came from defense.
LF: 1.3 Nootbaar/1.0 Jurickson Profar (but also .7 from Eli White--who played a lot of LF while Profar was suspended.)
CF: 2.2 VSII/ 2.1 Michael Harris. Though Harris was a superior hitter and probably equal on defense. I'm guessing Scott gets the edge based on stolen bases.
RF: -1.6 Jordan Walker/3.1 Acuna.
DH: 2.2 Ivan Herrera/1.6 Marcell Ozuna.

Cardinal WAR: 13 even. Atlanta WAR (and not counting Eli White): 21.5. If you add Alec Burleson, that bumps us to 14.8. If you use him in lieu of Jordan Walker, that puts us at 17.7. If you consider an average starting player to have a WAR of 2ish, that puts us around two average starting players behind Atlanta. Or one star player.

Let's look at starting pitching. I guess they ordered these pitchers by games started:

SP1: 1.4 Sonny Gray/-.4 Bryce Elder--okay, that looks good.
SP2: -1.3 Andre Pallante/3.9 Chris Sale--Oh no.
SP3:.3 Miles Mikolas/1 Spencer Strider
SP4: .9 Matthew Liberatore/1.4 Grant Holmes
SP5: -.1 Erick Fedde/2.2 Spencer Schwellenbach
SP6: .7 Michael McGreey/-.2 Joey Wentz

Cardinal SP WAR: 1.9. Wow. Braves SP WAR: 7.9. Our best--Gray--would've been, at best, the third starter in Atlanta. Maybe fourth, depending on how you want to cut it.

That's a big difference. Bullpen WAR comes out roughly even. So does bench WAR. But on the two areas that I think mean the most success in Major League Baseball, starting lineup and starting rotation, the Braves win, and it's not that close. Yet, they lost two more games than us. They hit better than us, and pitched better than us. And they still had a worse season. Oh, and they didn't have three teams in their division that made the play-offs like we did.

So what this tells me is that Oli, for his flaws, did a little bit more with a hell of a lot less than what Snitker had in a division that ended up being tougher than what Snitker had to face.

I'm not going to tell you that Marmol is a HoF manager. But the idea that he's some inept dunderhead is provably false. What this tells me is that we're still not putting enough fault on Mozeliak and DeWitt for how mediocre this team has been.

Riley 102 games
Profar 80
Acura 95
Murphy 94

Sale 20 GS
Strider 23
Holmes 21
Schwellenbach 17

The talent wasn’t on the field…….

And yet they still out WAR'd us by a significant margin. You're proving my point. We didn't have any major injuries.

You are literally proving my point. In half-duty for those guys, they still wiped the floor with us by WAR. And we still had a better season.

[Goldfan]

Given the response here on CT it would appear that BDW has a captured base and he has to do nothing to keep your eyeballs. Perhaps that’s part of the problem. Why spend money to keep fans if they’re going nowhere no matter the lethargy, ineptitude, and arrogance displayed by the ownership/FO
Braves have a bad season and their long time WS winning manager is out
Cards roll off another stinker….about same record as Braves…and their Oli stays, even though he is void of a Snitker pedigree

It's almost like Snitker had a way more talented team and had higher expectation than us yet they finished with a slightly worse W/L record.

Nah. That can't be it.

Sure, but one bad season after all that winning after being in the org for 40+yrs…….some owners want results and expect to win.
That isn’t the case here.
Why not just sweep the rug and get a clean slate…… Oli is a nobody and I’m sure he’s not making much money

But a bad season with WAY better talent.

You and I both know that Oli didn't have anyone coming through those doors like Acuna, Matt Olson, Chris Sale, Drake Baldwin, Sean Murphy, etc. In fact, on a positional breakdown by WAR on baseballreference.com.

C: 1.4 Pedro Page/3.3 Drake Baldwin. Sean Murphy also out WAR'd Pages by a significant margin.
1B: 2.6 Willson Contreras/6.1 Matt Olson
2B: 2.7 Brendan Donovan/2.2 Ozzie Albies--Hey look, we won one here!
SS: 2.2 Masyn Winn/0.6 Nick Allen--Another win!
3B: 1.3 Arenado/1.3 Austin Riley. I'm going to wager that most of Arenado's WAR came from defense.
LF: 1.3 Nootbaar/1.0 Jurickson Profar (but also .7 from Eli White--who played a lot of LF while Profar was suspended.)
CF: 2.2 VSII/ 2.1 Michael Harris. Though Harris was a superior hitter and probably equal on defense. I'm guessing Scott gets the edge based on stolen bases.
RF: -1.6 Jordan Walker/3.1 Acuna.
DH: 2.2 Ivan Herrera/1.6 Marcell Ozuna.

Cardinal WAR: 13 even. Atlanta WAR (and not counting Eli White): 21.5. If you add Alec Burleson, that bumps us to 14.8. If you use him in lieu of Jordan Walker, that puts us at 17.7. If you consider an average starting player to have a WAR of 2ish, that puts us around two average starting players behind Atlanta. Or one star player.

Let's look at starting pitching. I guess they ordered these pitchers by games started:

SP1: 1.4 Sonny Gray/-.4 Bryce Elder--okay, that looks good.
SP2: -1.3 Andre Pallante/3.9 Chris Sale--Oh no.
SP3:.3 Miles Mikolas/1 Spencer Strider
SP4: .9 Matthew Liberatore/1.4 Grant Holmes
SP5: -.1 Erick Fedde/2.2 Spencer Schwellenbach
SP6: .7 Michael McGreey/-.2 Joey Wentz

Cardinal SP WAR: 1.9. Wow. Braves SP WAR: 7.9. Our best--Gray--would've been, at best, the third starter in Atlanta. Maybe fourth, depending on how you want to cut it.

That's a big difference. Bullpen WAR comes out roughly even. So does bench WAR. But on the two areas that I think mean the most success in Major League Baseball, starting lineup and starting rotation, the Braves win, and it's not that close. Yet, they lost two more games than us. They hit better than us, and pitched better than us. And they still had a worse season. Oh, and they didn't have three teams in their division that made the play-offs like we did.

So what this tells me is that Oli, for his flaws, did a little bit more with a hell of a lot less than what Snitker had in a division that ended up being tougher than what Snitker had to face.

I'm not going to tell you that Marmol is a HoF manager. But the idea that he's some inept dunderhead is provably false. What this tells me is that we're still not putting enough fault on Mozeliak and DeWitt for how mediocre this team has been.

Riley 102 games
Profar 80
Acura 95
Murphy 94

Sale 20 GS
Strider 23
Holmes 21
Schwellenbach 17

The talent wasn’t on the field…….

And yet they still out WAR'd us by a significant margin. You're proving my point. We didn't have any major injuries.

You are literally proving my point. In half-duty for those guys, they still wiped the floor with us by WAR. And we still had a better season.

I don’t think I’m proving your point that Snitker should be let go because he had better talent…..when 4 of his best everyday players missed at least a 1/3 of season and no SP made over 23 starts……..

[Strummer Jones]

Given the response here on CT it would appear that BDW has a captured base and he has to do nothing to keep your eyeballs. Perhaps that’s part of the problem. Why spend money to keep fans if they’re going nowhere no matter the lethargy, ineptitude, and arrogance displayed by the ownership/FO
Braves have a bad season and their long time WS winning manager is out
Cards roll off another stinker….about same record as Braves…and their Oli stays, even though he is void of a Snitker pedigree

It's almost like Snitker had a way more talented team and had higher expectation than us yet they finished with a slightly worse W/L record.

Nah. That can't be it.

Sure, but one bad season after all that winning after being in the org for 40+yrs…….some owners want results and expect to win.
That isn’t the case here.
Why not just sweep the rug and get a clean slate…… Oli is a nobody and I’m sure he’s not making much money

But a bad season with WAY better talent.

You and I both know that Oli didn't have anyone coming through those doors like Acuna, Matt Olson, Chris Sale, Drake Baldwin, Sean Murphy, etc. In fact, on a positional breakdown by WAR on baseballreference.com.

C: 1.4 Pedro Page/3.3 Drake Baldwin. Sean Murphy also out WAR'd Pages by a significant margin.
1B: 2.6 Willson Contreras/6.1 Matt Olson
2B: 2.7 Brendan Donovan/2.2 Ozzie Albies--Hey look, we won one here!
SS: 2.2 Masyn Winn/0.6 Nick Allen--Another win!
3B: 1.3 Arenado/1.3 Austin Riley. I'm going to wager that most of Arenado's WAR came from defense.
LF: 1.3 Nootbaar/1.0 Jurickson Profar (but also .7 from Eli White--who played a lot of LF while Profar was suspended.)
CF: 2.2 VSII/ 2.1 Michael Harris. Though Harris was a superior hitter and probably equal on defense. I'm guessing Scott gets the edge based on stolen bases.
RF: -1.6 Jordan Walker/3.1 Acuna.
DH: 2.2 Ivan Herrera/1.6 Marcell Ozuna.

Cardinal WAR: 13 even. Atlanta WAR (and not counting Eli White): 21.5. If you add Alec Burleson, that bumps us to 14.8. If you use him in lieu of Jordan Walker, that puts us at 17.7. If you consider an average starting player to have a WAR of 2ish, that puts us around two average starting players behind Atlanta. Or one star player.

Let's look at starting pitching. I guess they ordered these pitchers by games started:

SP1: 1.4 Sonny Gray/-.4 Bryce Elder--okay, that looks good.
SP2: -1.3 Andre Pallante/3.9 Chris Sale--Oh no.
SP3:.3 Miles Mikolas/1 Spencer Strider
SP4: .9 Matthew Liberatore/1.4 Grant Holmes
SP5: -.1 Erick Fedde/2.2 Spencer Schwellenbach
SP6: .7 Michael McGreey/-.2 Joey Wentz

Cardinal SP WAR: 1.9. Wow. Braves SP WAR: 7.9. Our best--Gray--would've been, at best, the third starter in Atlanta. Maybe fourth, depending on how you want to cut it.

That's a big difference. Bullpen WAR comes out roughly even. So does bench WAR. But on the two areas that I think mean the most success in Major League Baseball, starting lineup and starting rotation, the Braves win, and it's not that close. Yet, they lost two more games than us. They hit better than us, and pitched better than us. And they still had a worse season. Oh, and they didn't have three teams in their division that made the play-offs like we did.

So what this tells me is that Oli, for his flaws, did a little bit more with a hell of a lot less than what Snitker had in a division that ended up being tougher than what Snitker had to face.

I'm not going to tell you that Marmol is a HoF manager. But the idea that he's some inept dunderhead is provably false. What this tells me is that we're still not putting enough fault on Mozeliak and DeWitt for how mediocre this team has been.

Riley 102 games
Profar 80
Acura 95
Murphy 94

Sale 20 GS
Strider 23
Holmes 21
Schwellenbach 17

The talent wasn’t on the field…….

And yet they still out WAR'd us by a significant margin. You're proving my point. We didn't have any major injuries.

You are literally proving my point. In half-duty for those guys, they still wiped the floor with us by WAR. And we still had a better season.

I don’t think I’m proving your point that Snitker should be let go because he had better talent…..when 4 of his best everyday players missed at least a 1/3 of season and no SP made over 23 starts……..

Snitker had better talent than Oli Marmol. Fact.
Snitker had a worse record than Oli Marmol. Fact.
Even with bonafide talent that had a lot of injuries, the Braves STILL put up a significantly higher WAR. Fact.

This season sucked. But Marmol wasn't why. The talent wasn't there. And that fault lies 100% at the feet of DeWitt and Mozeliak.

I'm not here to say that we need to sign Oli to a five year extension nor build him a statue for taking a (bleep) team to *almost* .500. But at this point, the Oli Pitchfork Brigade is unreasonable and just hating to hate.

[earp]

Manager on the hot seat: Oli Marmol returns for his final contract year, adding pressure and urgency to perform
How long will he last?

[ramfandan]

Because I have been watching the Cardinals since the late '50s. They are my team. In addition it is baseball. I don't need any other reasons.

You took the words right out of my mouth . Mid 50's for me ... Been thru the thick and thin . Though I live out of state , I subscribe to MLB Extra Innings on my DirecTV . Think I watched 157 ? or so of their games... those dang Apple+ games are blacked out .
God willing , I will be watching over 150 + games for 2026 also.
Go Cardinals !

[alw80]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

What was a reason to watch the Cardinals the last 10 seasons?

They had a couple nice seasons in there…..Goldy MVP ‘22. But since then it’s been a disaster with no upside on the horizon except a promise to draft and develop better??? We all know how that road looks and the extended timeline.

It's been ugly for a decade. If you watched this past season why wouldn't you watch next season?

[Goldfan]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

What was a reason to watch the Cardinals the last 10 seasons?

They had a couple nice seasons in there…..Goldy MVP ‘22. But since then it’s been a disaster with no upside on the horizon except a promise to draft and develop better??? We all know how that road looks and the extended timeline.

It's been ugly for a decade. If you watched this past season why wouldn't you watch next season?

I absolutely agree with you on the past decade, my only point is that its not getting better and probably getting worse
I tuned out the second half…..there is no enjoyment watching poor losing Cardinals baseball games

[alw80]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

What was a reason to watch the Cardinals the last 10 seasons?

They had a couple nice seasons in there…..Goldy MVP ‘22. But since then it’s been a disaster with no upside on the horizon except a promise to draft and develop better??? We all know how that road looks and the extended timeline.

It's been ugly for a decade. If you watched this past season why wouldn't you watch next season?

I absolutely agree with you on the past decade, my only point is that its not getting better and probably getting worse
I tuned out the second half…..there is no enjoyment watching poor losing Cardinals baseball games

Changes are being made, finally. The MLB product will be ugly but it has been for years now. Now is the time for optimism.

[dugoutrex]

I went to 2 games this year - prolly 0 next year!

[imetsatchelpaige]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

Snap out of it, Chicken Little.
I found much to be encouraged about in Bloom’s speech.
Did you expect him to announce a FA signing?
On the other hand, many here hope you don’t watch next year. Or are here.

[Cranny]

After 3 years of futility, low entertainment, losing, excuse making baseball why should Cards fans tune in next season when it appears it’ll be another year of the same?
Oli and Dusty are back
Only new talent who might be ready is JJ
No signing of new talent
Not a word yesterday to inspire ANY hope of things better next season.

Snap out of it, Chicken Little.
I found much to be encouraged about in Bloom’s speech.
Did you expect him to announce a FA signing?
On the other hand, many here hope you don’t watch next year. Or are here.

Goldfan will never be happy until the Cards win another World Championship. Chronic glass half empty fan.