Bolduc is impressing up North

[netboy65]

He should. Easy to see he was a keeper. Way more value then Neighbours, in my eyes and by year's end probably in all.

Montreal built a good team and will be in a better playoff spot then the team who gave that kid away.

Also gonna be watching the King's. Great young team with a 'teams captain, and great play calling. Which was half the reason, I enjoyed the Blues product.
Both moves were big missteps. They look like favors for future personal considerations, and a clear sign management has stayed way too long.

That said, I'll still watch blues hockey, and like everyone, I'll enjoy the hope Army built and sold to us. Fingers crossed we play a few home playoff games so I can get some more mediocracy in 26/27
I'll also deal with the podcast they burned kelly for.

The guy is a genius
go blues!

Explain how he is more valuable than Neighbours who has a 27 and 22 goal season on his resume, is better defensively, plays a better all around game, and is only 1 year older.

Please explain your rationale behind this.

There's nothing about a opinion of mine you have or will find rational.

Neighbours is a dime a dozen. The game he plays is played by many it can be played by Sunny. Who would have similar point totals with the amount of good mates and pp time neighbours get.
Sunny can't play a Bolduc game.

Like I said, 'By years end, All will agree

So the guy who has done more and proven to be the better player is a dime a dozen player, and the guy who, at this point, has had nothing but a 40 game hot streak is the far more valuable player and not replaceable?

That's a clown show take.

There's nothing about a opinion of mine you have or will find rational

Full stop.

[Hooking]

He was going to "impress" no matter what in preseason. Canadian teams media and fans are the epitome of "WE WON EVERY TRADE AND EVERY PLAYER EVER WANTS TO PLAY FOR OUR TEAMS BECAUZ WE R CANADIA!"

OK I am exaggerating but what is going to matter is real-world results. We have seen guys play better on teams with less pressure and less attention and some guys thrive in those environments.

He is a bright young kid who could have a great future - Blues will miss him a bit. Will he have a great future? Time will tell when the actual season starts. I wish him all the best.

I am stoked how the Blues' D has turned out and this can easily be a trade that benefits both teams. Again fans, media, twitter... etc. will say the Canadian team won the trade because they are Canadian.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white with a clear winner or loser.

[a smell of green grass]

He was going to "impress" no matter what in preseason. Canadian teams media and fans are the epitome of "WE WON EVERY TRADE AND EVERY PLAYER EVER WANTS TO PLAY FOR OUR TEAMS BECAUZ WE R CANADIA!"

OK I am exaggerating but what is going to matter is real-world results. We have seen guys play better on teams with less pressure and less attention and some guys thrive in those environments.

He is a bright young kid who could have a great future - Blues will miss him a bit. Will he have a great future? Time will tell when the actual season starts. I wish him all the best.

I am stoked how the Blues' D has turned out and this can easily be a trade that benefits both teams. Again fans, media, twitter... etc. will say the Canadian team won the trade because they are Canadian.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white with a clear winner or loser.

That's doesn't match what I know about Montreal. I heard that when the trade happened, they didn't want "another Sergachev Lightning" trade. The Canadiens felt like they lost that trade, and they mentioned a few other trades as well that they lost.

I also heard that some are already complaining about the Dobbs trade.

My bias is that Army's trades often blow, and this is likely just one more instance of it. We shall see.

My gripe is that we needed to trade Bolduc at all. We've been trying to get a young replacement for Petro for years, and everything backfired. The only move that occasionally works for Army is overpaying for old 1000-game veterans.

[netboy65]

One last time for those in the cheap seats. There’s 2 ways draft picks can help a club. Directly of course, or when used as currency in a trade.

[STL fan in MN]

He was going to "impress" no matter what in preseason. Canadian teams media and fans are the epitome of "WE WON EVERY TRADE AND EVERY PLAYER EVER WANTS TO PLAY FOR OUR TEAMS BECAUZ WE R CANADIA!"

OK I am exaggerating but what is going to matter is real-world results. We have seen guys play better on teams with less pressure and less attention and some guys thrive in those environments.

He is a bright young kid who could have a great future - Blues will miss him a bit. Will he have a great future? Time will tell when the actual season starts. I wish him all the best.

I am stoked how the Blues' D has turned out and this can easily be a trade that benefits both teams. Again fans, media, twitter... etc. will say the Canadian team won the trade because they are Canadian.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white with a clear winner or loser.

That's doesn't match what I know about Montreal. I heard that when the trade happened, they didn't want "another Sergachev Lightning" trade. The Canadiens felt like they lost that trade, and they mentioned a few other trades as well that they lost.

I also heard that some are already complaining about the Dobbs trade.

My bias is that Army's trades often blow, and this is likely just one more instance of it. We shall see.

My gripe is that we needed to trade Bolduc at all. We've been trying to get a young replacement for Petro for years, and everything backfired. The only move that occasionally works for Army is overpaying for old 1000-game veterans.

I’m sure there’s some Habs fans that had that concern with the Mailloux/Bolduc trade and others that complained about the Dobson trade. No fanbase is going to 100% agree on things. There’s always going to be dissenting and minority opinions…this is something you should be very familiar with actually.

Most of what I’ve seen coming out of Montreal is a ton of hype. And that’s been consistent for years. They tend to overhype their players. Sometimes it’s justified and sometimes it’s not. A market like MTL simply gets more hype, press and attention. It doesn’t automatically make their players better though.

Your bias is based on your opinion that Army’s trades often “blow”. Most here clearly don’t agree with you. Fowler was a great trade. He correctly recognized the wheels were falling off the 2023 team and got good value for ROR and Tarasenko, he absolutely stole Buchnevich…the trades to acquire ROR and Schenn is what put us over the top to win the only Cup in franchise history. Bouwmmester was a huge add for very little too. He’s had some not so great trades too but by and large, I have very little complaints with his and his team’s ability to assess talent and make a trade to better the team.

What would you have liked instead of the Bolduc trade? That we hadn’t ever lost Petro in the first place? I and many others here also didn’t like that move but you know what we’re able to do that you seemingly aren’t? See the full picture, that Petro also had a part in his leaving and the ability to move on. We can dwell on mistakes from 5 years ago or we can learn from them and move on. Also, Petro is broken now. How would a broken Petro help us now? Mailloux is a much better asset going forward than Petro…and that’s coming from one of Petro’s main supporters on this board. It’s simply the truth.

God help her if you ever convince someone to be your girlfriend. You’ll probably gripe how she didn’t unload the dishwasher in a timely manner that one time 5 years ago…

[sneptsmoustache]

Serious question for the OP: what do you think is a reasonable time frame for deciding definitively who "won" this trade, given the differences in NHL experience for two players, the longer timeline for development for defensemen, etc.? Will we know definitively after this season, in your opinion? Will we need to wait until Mailloux has 200 games of NHL experience as a defenseman? When will we definitively know?

Before I answer your question, please answer my serious questions that got smothered instantly by the Army love blankets.

1. I want both Bolduc and a young RHD. I've been waiting for years for young replacement to Petro. 5 years later, why did I have to give up Bolduc to get a raffle chance on a young RHD"?

2. If Mailloux ends up more like the next Perunovich than the next Petrangelo, who is the next beloved young prospect that I need to give up for the next raffle chance?

3. Is there any scenario where Army could be "wrong" for making this trade. For 95% of the BluesTalkers, the answer is NO. What say you?

To someone that wants a fair grade, I would say 2 years. However, this is BluesTalk. We have only cheerleaders, and those driven insane by Army, and there is no timing ever that would facilitate a good discussion. Since no timing will ever work, weekly must do.

Two years is reasonable, I think. Not to say that it couldn’t change after that, but I think directionally we should have a good sense two years from now.

I’m not going to address the rest of that jibberjabber. You lost me at “if he becomes the next Perunovich”

[Bubble4427]

He was going to "impress" no matter what in preseason. Canadian teams media and fans are the epitome of "WE WON EVERY TRADE AND EVERY PLAYER EVER WANTS TO PLAY FOR OUR TEAMS BECAUZ WE R CANADIA!"

OK I am exaggerating but what is going to matter is real-world results. We have seen guys play better on teams with less pressure and less attention and some guys thrive in those environments.

He is a bright young kid who could have a great future - Blues will miss him a bit. Will he have a great future? Time will tell when the actual season starts. I wish him all the best.

I am stoked how the Blues' D has turned out and this can easily be a trade that benefits both teams. Again fans, media, twitter... etc. will say the Canadian team won the trade because they are Canadian.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white with a clear winner or loser.

That's doesn't match what I know about Montreal. I heard that when the trade happened, they didn't want "another Sergachev Lightning" trade. The Canadiens felt like they lost that trade, and they mentioned a few other trades as well that they lost.

I also heard that some are already complaining about the Dobbs trade.

My bias is that Army's trades often blow, and this is likely just one more instance of it. We shall see.

My gripe is that we needed to trade Bolduc at all. We've been trying to get a young replacement for Petro for years, and everything backfired. The only move that occasionally works for Army is overpaying for old 1000-game veterans.

Again, you just can’t fix stupid.

You are a casual fan. Nothing more.
Learn the game or at least tell the entire story when making your arguments. Half truths or “things that you’ve heard” is not giving any of your arguments credibility. Bolduc was a third line wing that the BLUES were not going to pay 6 million dollars a year for.
Every trade is made with the sole purpose of improving your team…..almost every time you make a trade, you deal from an area of strength. Even the best teams in the league make deals. Why? Because they feel like they could improve their team. You have NO IDEA who Montreal was asking for in the deal and you have no idea if Mailoux was the Blues ask from Montreal. No one does. You are wasting everyone’s time making an argument (with made up facts and half truths) that no one gives any credence to.

[dhsux]

He should. Easy to see he was a keeper. Way more value then Neighbours, in my eyes and by year's end probably in all.

Montreal built a good team and will be in a better playoff spot then the team who gave that kid away.

Also gonna be watching the King's. Great young team with a 'teams captain, and great play calling. Which was half the reason, I enjoyed the Blues product.
Both moves were big missteps. They look like favors for future personal considerations, and a clear sign management has stayed way too long.

That said, I'll still watch blues hockey, and like everyone, I'll enjoy the hope Army built and sold to us. Fingers crossed we play a few home playoff games so I can get some more mediocracy in 26/27
I'll also deal with the podcast they burned kelly for.

The guy is a genius
go blues!

Explain how he is more valuable than Neighbours who has a 27 and 22 goal season on his resume, is better defensively, plays a better all around game, and is only 1 year older.

Please explain your rationale behind this.

There's nothing about a opinion of mine you have or will find rational.

Neighbours is a dime a dozen. The game he plays is played by many it can be played by Sunny. Who would have similar point totals with the amount of good mates and pp time neighbours get.
Sunny can't play a Bolduc game.

Like I said, 'By years end, All will agree

Wow Canut...you just convinced us all your right with that summation!

Nice work!

Hope you stick around with more brilliant insight!

[a smell of green grass]

He was going to "impress" no matter what in preseason. Canadian teams media and fans are the epitome of "WE WON EVERY TRADE AND EVERY PLAYER EVER WANTS TO PLAY FOR OUR TEAMS BECAUZ WE R CANADIA!"

OK I am exaggerating but what is going to matter is real-world results. We have seen guys play better on teams with less pressure and less attention and some guys thrive in those environments.

He is a bright young kid who could have a great future - Blues will miss him a bit. Will he have a great future? Time will tell when the actual season starts. I wish him all the best.

I am stoked how the Blues' D has turned out and this can easily be a trade that benefits both teams. Again fans, media, twitter... etc. will say the Canadian team won the trade because they are Canadian.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white with a clear winner or loser.

That's doesn't match what I know about Montreal. I heard that when the trade happened, they didn't want "another Sergachev Lightning" trade. The Canadiens felt like they lost that trade, and they mentioned a few other trades as well that they lost.

I also heard that some are already complaining about the Dobbs trade.

My bias is that Army's trades often blow, and this is likely just one more instance of it. We shall see.

My gripe is that we needed to trade Bolduc at all. We've been trying to get a young replacement for Petro for years, and everything backfired. The only move that occasionally works for Army is overpaying for old 1000-game veterans.

I’m sure there’s some Habs fans that had that concern with the Mailloux/Bolduc trade and others that complained about the Dobson trade. No fanbase is going to 100% agree on things. There’s always going to be dissenting and minority opinions…this is something you should be very familiar with actually.

Most of what I’ve seen coming out of Montreal is a ton of hype. And that’s been consistent for years. They tend to overhype their players. Sometimes it’s justified and sometimes it’s not. A market like MTL simply gets more hype, press and attention. It doesn’t automatically make their players better though.

Your bias is based on your opinion that Army’s trades often “blow”. Most here clearly don’t agree with you. Fowler was a great trade. He correctly recognized the wheels were falling off the 2023 team and got good value for ROR and Tarasenko, he absolutely stole Buchnevich…the trades to acquire ROR and Schenn is what put us over the top to win the only Cup in franchise history. Bouwmmester was a huge add for very little too. He’s had some not so great trades too but by and large, I have very little complaints with his and his team’s ability to assess talent and make a trade to better the team.

What would you have liked instead of the Bolduc trade? That we hadn’t ever lost Petro in the first place? I and many others here also didn’t like that move but you know what we’re able to do that you seemingly aren’t? See the full picture, that Petro also had a part in his leaving and the ability to move on. We can dwell on mistakes from 5 years ago or we can learn from them and move on. Also, Petro is broken now. How would a broken Petro help us now? Mailloux is a much better asset going forward than Petro…and that’s coming from one of Petro’s main supporters on this board. It’s simply the truth.

God help her if you ever convince someone to be your girlfriend. You’ll probably gripe how she didn’t unload the dishwasher in a timely manner that one time 5 years ago…

So let me get this straight...
You think that the GM that hasn't been able to replace Petro for 6 years has now hit the nail on the head with Mailloux.

OK. We shall see.

[a smell of green grass]

I hesitate to reply to the girlfriend comments because I'm smart enough to realize that no one wants to hear about my personal life.

I will only say this one time...and I will be very brief.

My wife is TOP5, and I"m not exaggerating.

[Bubble4427]

I hesitate to reply to the girlfriend comments because I'm smart enough to realize that no one wants to hear about my personal life.

I will only say this one time...and I will be very brief.

My wife is TOP5, and I"m not exaggerating.

I assume your evaluations of women are much better than your evaluations of hockey players….because if they are the same then…….

[STL fan in MN]

He was going to "impress" no matter what in preseason. Canadian teams media and fans are the epitome of "WE WON EVERY TRADE AND EVERY PLAYER EVER WANTS TO PLAY FOR OUR TEAMS BECAUZ WE R CANADIA!"

OK I am exaggerating but what is going to matter is real-world results. We have seen guys play better on teams with less pressure and less attention and some guys thrive in those environments.

He is a bright young kid who could have a great future - Blues will miss him a bit. Will he have a great future? Time will tell when the actual season starts. I wish him all the best.

I am stoked how the Blues' D has turned out and this can easily be a trade that benefits both teams. Again fans, media, twitter... etc. will say the Canadian team won the trade because they are Canadian.

Everything doesn't have to be black and white with a clear winner or loser.

That's doesn't match what I know about Montreal. I heard that when the trade happened, they didn't want "another Sergachev Lightning" trade. The Canadiens felt like they lost that trade, and they mentioned a few other trades as well that they lost.

I also heard that some are already complaining about the Dobbs trade.

My bias is that Army's trades often blow, and this is likely just one more instance of it. We shall see.

My gripe is that we needed to trade Bolduc at all. We've been trying to get a young replacement for Petro for years, and everything backfired. The only move that occasionally works for Army is overpaying for old 1000-game veterans.

I’m sure there’s some Habs fans that had that concern with the Mailloux/Bolduc trade and others that complained about the Dobson trade. No fanbase is going to 100% agree on things. There’s always going to be dissenting and minority opinions…this is something you should be very familiar with actually.

Most of what I’ve seen coming out of Montreal is a ton of hype. And that’s been consistent for years. They tend to overhype their players. Sometimes it’s justified and sometimes it’s not. A market like MTL simply gets more hype, press and attention. It doesn’t automatically make their players better though.

Your bias is based on your opinion that Army’s trades often “blow”. Most here clearly don’t agree with you. Fowler was a great trade. He correctly recognized the wheels were falling off the 2023 team and got good value for ROR and Tarasenko, he absolutely stole Buchnevich…the trades to acquire ROR and Schenn is what put us over the top to win the only Cup in franchise history. Bouwmmester was a huge add for very little too. He’s had some not so great trades too but by and large, I have very little complaints with his and his team’s ability to assess talent and make a trade to better the team.

What would you have liked instead of the Bolduc trade? That we hadn’t ever lost Petro in the first place? I and many others here also didn’t like that move but you know what we’re able to do that you seemingly aren’t? See the full picture, that Petro also had a part in his leaving and the ability to move on. We can dwell on mistakes from 5 years ago or we can learn from them and move on. Also, Petro is broken now. How would a broken Petro help us now? Mailloux is a much better asset going forward than Petro…and that’s coming from one of Petro’s main supporters on this board. It’s simply the truth.

God help her if you ever convince someone to be your girlfriend. You’ll probably gripe how she didn’t unload the dishwasher in a timely manner that one time 5 years ago…

So let me get this straight...
You think that the GM that hasn't been able to replace Petro for 6 years has now hit the nail on the head with Mailloux.

OK. We shall see.

I actually never said anything about Army hitting the nail on the head with Mailloux. But Army’s trades usually turn out pretty well and Mailloux appears to have been pretty good in camp so as of today, I don’t have any concerns and am looking forward to his development over the next few years.

Longterm, I expect Mailloux to be a solid d-man. I don’t expect him to be anywhere near equivalent to Petro. He doesn’t have that sort of pedigree and it’d be incredibly unlikely to get that caliber of player for a young player like Bolduc that projects as a quality middle-6 winger.

Acquiring a d-man of Petro’s quality is very hard. There are very few d-man of that caliber. And Petro isn’t one of them anymore. Most teams don’t have one.

Also, you’re right about the girlfriend comment. That went too far and I apologize. Your posts oftentimes annoy me but I shouldn’t have taken it there.

[danno]

I hesitate to reply to the girlfriend comments because I'm smart enough to realize that no one wants to hear about my personal life.

I will only say this one time...and I will be very brief.

My wife is TOP5, and I"m not exaggerating.

So your wife is a 5 or less, out of 10?
You can't win the nuptials championship with that!

[DoneLurking]

I hesitate to reply to the girlfriend comments because I'm smart enough to realize that no one wants to hear about my personal life.

I will only say this one time...and I will be very brief.

My wife is TOP5, and I"m not exaggerating.

A person happy with his or her real life doesn't spam a message board each day to beg for admiration.

[a smell of green grass]

I hesitate to reply to the girlfriend comments because I'm smart enough to realize that no one wants to hear about my personal life.

I will only say this one time...and I will be very brief.

My wife is TOP5, and I"m not exaggerating.

A person happy with his or her real life doesn't spam a message board each day to beg for admiration.

A person happy with himself doesn't have to attack BluesTalkers.

Peace. Love to all.

Note:
ASOGG criticizes the team and it's policies. I want no part of attacking people, and I do it only when necessary to put an end to the ugly conversation.

[DawgDad]

I hesitate to reply to the girlfriend comments because I'm smart enough to realize that no one wants to hear about my personal life.

I will only say this one time...and I will be very brief.

My wife is TOP5, and I"m not exaggerating.

A person happy with his or her real life doesn't spam a message board each day to beg for admiration.

A person happy with himself doesn't have to attack BluesTalkers.

Peace. Love to all.

Note:
ASOGG criticizes the team and it's policies. I want no part of attacking people, and I do it only when necessary to put an end to the ugly conversation.

LOL! Severe lack of self-awareness. Don't you realize the TEAM is PEOPLE, and pretty much all you do is drumbeat aspersions and negativity?