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JaseMan wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:51 pm I sincerely hope he reads this. Because he was the best GM in the game for awhile. He made bold trades, smart signings, didn't bat 100% but no GM does. Somewhere along the way he became timid and overly patient. Now the organization has some serious issues. I will tell anybody that will listen that i think 3 things happen that changed MO. 1) the death of Oscar Tavares. Which forced him to trade for Heyward. That deal was ok. 2) The Ozuna trade showed how their internal evaluations were awful. 3) The firing of Mike Shildt. Somewhere the organization put themselves into a box with singular ideas.
The attendance at Busch shows its time for a fresh start.
Interesting perspective.

The Matt Carpenter extension was GM malpractice.
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It's emancipation day!
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm Dear John,
Things used to be so exciting. I remember when we first got together how vigorous you were. We had such interesting friends. It was always fun to get together with Albert and Jimmy, with Chris and Adam and Scott and Yadier, and Tony and Dave. I know you didn’t like him- but even Jeff was an interesting part of our friend group. We all went places and did amazing things together. It was great. I’ll always remember 2011. Looking back, that really was our mountaintop experience! That was amazing and I loved it! Our friends envied us and wanted to be like us. Strangers wanted to be with us. I thought we would always be together, and things would be good for us.
After that, our friends began to leave and things were fine for a while, but by 2016 I didn’t even recognize us anymore. Our friends were gone, and we hadn’t really replaced them. I noticed we weren’t going places like we used to. There was talk that you and Chris had maybe done some things together that you shouldn’t have. I know you said that you didn’t, but I’ve always wondered. I suppose I’ll never know for sure. Along the way it seems like you lost your vigor.
I know you made a few efforts along the way. You reached out to Giancarlo, and David, and Jason, but you came up- well- short. It seems like they just didn’t find us interesting. It also seems like there were times, like with Max and Bryce, that you didn’t even try. You did manage to make friends with Paul and Nolan, and each time it seemed like we might really be going somewhere, but you stopped, and came up short again. John, I’ve gotten so used to you coming up short that I don’t even expect anything from you now- and let me tell you- it’s very unsatisfying.
For years now, we’ve been going along as a shell of ourselves. We don’t go anywhere. We don’t do anything. We don’t have any fun. Now, nobody wants to be with us. John, it’s gotten to where I don’t want to be with us. I don’t know what happened to you, but you only want to do what you want to do, talk about what you want to talk about, and you send away anyone who doesn’t want to live that way.
John, I know you plan to leave me soon- but you can’t- I’m leaving you first. We’ll always have 2011, but that was a long time ago. Best of luck John.
A Fan
P.S. It’s not me- it’s you.
brilliant!
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Hey Johnny boy! Eat a (bleep) sandwich
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JuanAgosto wrote: 28 Sep 2025 01:04 am Hey Johnny boy! Eat a (bleep) sandwich
He and Miles can share it.
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icon wrote: 28 Sep 2025 01:18 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 28 Sep 2025 01:04 am Hey Johnny boy! Eat a (bleep) sandwich
He and Miles can share it.
On their way out of town.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm Dear John,
Things used to be so exciting. I remember when we first got together how vigorous you were. We had such interesting friends. It was always fun to get together with Albert and Jimmy, with Chris and Adam and Scott and Yadier, and Tony and Dave. I know you didn’t like him- but even Jeff was an interesting part of our friend group. We all went places and did amazing things together. It was great. I’ll always remember 2011. Looking back, that really was our mountaintop experience! That was amazing and I loved it! Our friends envied us and wanted to be like us. Strangers wanted to be with us. I thought we would always be together, and things would be good for us.
After that, our friends began to leave and things were fine for a while, but by 2016 I didn’t even recognize us anymore. Our friends were gone, and we hadn’t really replaced them. I noticed we weren’t going places like we used to. There was talk that you and Chris had maybe done some things together that you shouldn’t have. I know you said that you didn’t, but I’ve always wondered. I suppose I’ll never know for sure. Along the way it seems like you lost your vigor.
I know you made a few efforts along the way. You reached out to Giancarlo, and David, and Jason, but you came up- well- short. It seems like they just didn’t find us interesting. It also seems like there were times, like with Max and Bryce, that you didn’t even try. You did manage to make friends with Paul and Nolan, and each time it seemed like we might really be going somewhere, but you stopped, and came up short again. John, I’ve gotten so used to you coming up short that I don’t even expect anything from you now- and let me tell you- it’s very unsatisfying.
For years now, we’ve been going along as a shell of ourselves. We don’t go anywhere. We don’t do anything. We don’t have any fun. Now, nobody wants to be with us. John, it’s gotten to where I don’t want to be with us. I don’t know what happened to you, but you only want to do what you want to do, talk about what you want to talk about, and you send away anyone who doesn’t want to live that way.
John, I know you plan to leave me soon- but you can’t- I’m leaving you first. We’ll always have 2011, but that was a long time ago. Best of luck John.
A Fan
P.S. It’s not me- it’s you.
A true dear John letter. Classic. Next thought. Beatles- Dear Prudence; won’t you come out to play.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm Dear John,
Things used to be so exciting. I remember when we first got together how vigorous you were. We had such interesting friends. It was always fun to get together with Albert and Jimmy, with Chris and Adam and Scott and Yadier, and Tony and Dave. I know you didn’t like him- but even Jeff was an interesting part of our friend group. We all went places and did amazing things together. It was great. I’ll always remember 2011. Looking back, that really was our mountaintop experience! That was amazing and I loved it! Our friends envied us and wanted to be like us. Strangers wanted to be with us. I thought we would always be together, and things would be good for us.
After that, our friends began to leave and things were fine for a while, but by 2016 I didn’t even recognize us anymore. Our friends were gone, and we hadn’t really replaced them. I noticed we weren’t going places like we used to. There was talk that you and Chris had maybe done some things together that you shouldn’t have. I know you said that you didn’t, but I’ve always wondered. I suppose I’ll never know for sure. Along the way it seems like you lost your vigor.
I know you made a few efforts along the way. You reached out to Giancarlo, and David, and Jason, but you came up- well- short. It seems like they just didn’t find us interesting. It also seems like there were times, like with Max and Bryce, that you didn’t even try. You did manage to make friends with Paul and Nolan, and each time it seemed like we might really be going somewhere, but you stopped, and came up short again. John, I’ve gotten so used to you coming up short that I don’t even expect anything from you now- and let me tell you- it’s very unsatisfying.
For years now, we’ve been going along as a shell of ourselves. We don’t go anywhere. We don’t do anything. We don’t have any fun. Now, nobody wants to be with us. John, it’s gotten to where I don’t want to be with us. I don’t know what happened to you, but you only want to do what you want to do, talk about what you want to talk about, and you send away anyone who doesn’t want to live that way.
John, I know you plan to leave me soon- but you can’t- I’m leaving you first. We’ll always have 2011, but that was a long time ago. Best of luck John.
A Fan
P.S. It’s not me- it’s you.
Very Good! ----nailed it----Thank You
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Deer John,

Be careful of hunters.
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Excellent, well stated and accurate.
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:lol:

Never thought I'd see a "Dear John" letter in CT.
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm Dear John,
Things used to be so exciting. I remember when we first got together how vigorous you were. We had such interesting friends. It was always fun to get together with Albert and Jimmy, with Chris and Adam and Scott and Yadier, and Tony and Dave. I know you didn’t like him- but even Jeff was an interesting part of our friend group. We all went places and did amazing things together. It was great. I’ll always remember 2011. Looking back, that really was our mountaintop experience! That was amazing and I loved it! Our friends envied us and wanted to be like us. Strangers wanted to be with us. I thought we would always be together, and things would be good for us.
After that, our friends began to leave and things were fine for a while, but by 2016 I didn’t even recognize us anymore. Our friends were gone, and we hadn’t really replaced them. I noticed we weren’t going places like we used to. There was talk that you and Chris had maybe done some things together that you shouldn’t have. I know you said that you didn’t, but I’ve always wondered. I suppose I’ll never know for sure. Along the way it seems like you lost your vigor.
I know you made a few efforts along the way. You reached out to Giancarlo, and David, and Jason, but you came up- well- short. It seems like they just didn’t find us interesting. It also seems like there were times, like with Max and Bryce, that you didn’t even try. You did manage to make friends with Paul and Nolan, and each time it seemed like we might really be going somewhere, but you stopped, and came up short again. John, I’ve gotten so used to you coming up short that I don’t even expect anything from you now- and let me tell you- it’s very unsatisfying.
For years now, we’ve been going along as a shell of ourselves. We don’t go anywhere. We don’t do anything. We don’t have any fun. Now, nobody wants to be with us. John, it’s gotten to where I don’t want to be with us. I don’t know what happened to you, but you only want to do what you want to do, talk about what you want to talk about, and you send away anyone who doesn’t want to live that way.
John, I know you plan to leave me soon- but you can’t- I’m leaving you first. We’ll always have 2011, but that was a long time ago. Best of luck John.
A Fan
P.S. It’s not me- it’s you.
The past 5 years or so...we expected so little, and got so much less.
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Hey High Em ... this is what you have to look forward to!
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brock118 wrote: 28 Sep 2025 09:53 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm Dear John,
Things used to be so exciting. I remember when we first got together how vigorous you were. We had such interesting friends. It was always fun to get together with Albert and Jimmy, with Chris and Adam and Scott and Yadier, and Tony and Dave. I know you didn’t like him- but even Jeff was an interesting part of our friend group. We all went places and did amazing things together. It was great. I’ll always remember 2011. Looking back, that really was our mountaintop experience! That was amazing and I loved it! Our friends envied us and wanted to be like us. Strangers wanted to be with us. I thought we would always be together, and things would be good for us.
After that, our friends began to leave and things were fine for a while, but by 2016 I didn’t even recognize us anymore. Our friends were gone, and we hadn’t really replaced them. I noticed we weren’t going places like we used to. There was talk that you and Chris had maybe done some things together that you shouldn’t have. I know you said that you didn’t, but I’ve always wondered. I suppose I’ll never know for sure. Along the way it seems like you lost your vigor.
I know you made a few efforts along the way. You reached out to Giancarlo, and David, and Jason, but you came up- well- short. It seems like they just didn’t find us interesting. It also seems like there were times, like with Max and Bryce, that you didn’t even try. You did manage to make friends with Paul and Nolan, and each time it seemed like we might really be going somewhere, but you stopped, and came up short again. John, I’ve gotten so used to you coming up short that I don’t even expect anything from you now- and let me tell you- it’s very unsatisfying.
For years now, we’ve been going along as a shell of ourselves. We don’t go anywhere. We don’t do anything. We don’t have any fun. Now, nobody wants to be with us. John, it’s gotten to where I don’t want to be with us. I don’t know what happened to you, but you only want to do what you want to do, talk about what you want to talk about, and you send away anyone who doesn’t want to live that way.
John, I know you plan to leave me soon- but you can’t- I’m leaving you first. We’ll always have 2011, but that was a long time ago. Best of luck John.
A Fan
P.S. It’s not me- it’s you.

The past 5 years or so...we expected so little, and got so much less.
Amen brother!
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Talkin' Baseball wrote: 31 Jul 2025 17:23 pm Dear John,
Things used to be so exciting. I remember when we first got together how vigorous you were. We had such interesting friends. It was always fun...

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Bravo!
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I completely missed this in July. Glad it was revived. A real Dear John letter. Well done!!
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