Next Year's Cardinal Outfield

[Cranny]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

[11WSChamps]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

[Cranny]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

[rockondlouie]

For those penciling in Walker as a starter in your 2026 OF, just stop.

He's NOT going to be there, he'll be enjoying some Memphis BBQ because he's starting at AAA where he belongs.

Dubious. Depends on the off season workouts and additional coaching.

Nope

Nothing he does this offseason changes the fact that he's just NOT a major league baseball player.

When you can't hit and you can't field, then what the h e l l are you doing in MLB?

He goes at AAA after STIng.

[11WSChamps]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

Take your troll doll and slither out of here.

[Cranny]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

Take your troll doll and slither out of here.

Actually, 11WS, this is an open forum for all to express their opinions. If you don’t care for mine, that’s fine. It’s okay to agree to disagree. But when you tell another poster to “slither out of here”, you’re out of line. WAY out of line.

[11WSChamps]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

Take your troll doll and slither out of here.

Actually, 11WS, this is an open forum for all to express their opinions. If you don’t care for mine, that’s fine. It’s okay to agree to disagree. But when you tell another poster to “slither out of here”, you’re out of line. WAY out of line.

Not with the likes of you I'm not.

[ClassicO]

The OF is an interesting topic going forward. I can see half a dozen different ways to build a good infield- the outfield not so much.

Burleson probably will be the RF. Herrera probably SHOULD be the LF. Wetherholt COULD be the CF. By "could" I don't mean there is a

chance that he will, I mean I think he could learn the position and do reasonably well there. I'm pretty sure he stays on the infield. It

was a good thought exercise, and you had me interested until you mentioned spending big bucks to get a big bat, or pitching. That's

not happening. Some of your players not mentioned, as well as some of your infielders will fetch whatever pitching is acquired.

Why play Burelson and Hererra in OF when DH available? One can DH

Agree. Gorman and Walker need to go to AAA to prove they can hit before they ever see MLB again, which leaves the DH open for Burly and Herrera.
They need to gamble on Josh Baez in CF by May/June if he continues to progress, b/c VSII is not the answer.
Donny to 3b and JJW to 2b.
There are some interesting FA OFs - Bellinger, Lourdes Gurriel, Bader, Grisham, Robert, Jr., etc.

[rockondlouie]

The OF is an interesting topic going forward. I can see half a dozen different ways to build a good infield- the outfield not so much.

Burleson probably will be the RF. Herrera probably SHOULD be the LF. Wetherholt COULD be the CF. By "could" I don't mean there is a

chance that he will, I mean I think he could learn the position and do reasonably well there. I'm pretty sure he stays on the infield. It

was a good thought exercise, and you had me interested until you mentioned spending big bucks to get a big bat, or pitching. That's

not happening. Some of your players not mentioned, as well as some of your infielders will fetch whatever pitching is acquired.

Why play Burelson and Hererra in OF when DH available? One can DH

Agree. Gorman and Walker need to go to AAA to prove they can hit before they ever see MLB again, which leaves the DH open for Burly and Herrera.
They need to gamble on Josh Baez in CF by May/June if he continues to progress, b/c VSII is not the answer.
Donny to 3b and JJW to 2b.
There are some interesting FA OFs - Bellinger, Lourdes Gurriel, Bader, Grisham, Robert, Jr., etc.

This has been my guy, just not sure BDWJr will go there.

[ilcubuffs]

2026 is supposed to be a throw away season so actually accomplish improving MLB skills.

Right after season send Church and Scott to Fla and bunt, bunt, bunt, bunt. Then learn base stealing and base running. They get to leave when they learn the trade.

LF - Church
CF - Scott
RF - Donovan/Fermin
3B - NA: seriously doubt he gets dealt
SS - Winn
2B - JJ
1B - Contreras
C - Crooks
DH - Herrera

Tired of Gorman's, Walkers, Pages, Pozo, et al holding the offense hostage - the lack of speed and knowledge on how to run bases will kill this team even if they have an OF of Musial, Aaron, Mays, etc. Want speed, athleticism, and end of station to station to no where. Evidently, an incompetent and failure manager will return so not sure Bloom can teach the Marmot MLB offense and strategy.

At least make the team fun and exciting.

[Rojo Johnson]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

Take your troll doll and slither out of here.

Actually, 11WS, this is an open forum for all to express their opinions. If you don’t care for mine, that’s fine. It’s okay to agree to disagree. But when you tell another poster to “slither out of here”, you’re out of line. WAY out of line.

Hey, sport. If this is an open forum FOR ALL TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS, then why have I read you post, several times, that you can’t talk about something unless you’ve done it? You know you are very fond of saying that and you believe it. So, which is it, Slappy?

[Cranny]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

Take your troll doll and slither out of here.

Actually, 11WS, this is an open forum for all to express their opinions. If you don’t care for mine, that’s fine. It’s okay to agree to disagree. But when you tell another poster to “slither out of here”, you’re out of line. WAY out of line.

Hey, sport. If this is an open forum FOR ALL TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS, then why have I read you post, several times, that you can’t talk about something unless you’ve done it? You know you are very fond of saying that and you believe it. So, which is it, Slappy?

Well “sport” and “slappy”, are you talking baseball today or just making up cute little nicknames for a fellow Cardinal fan?

[WLTFE]

I know this is a bit out of the box and might be borderline insane. But, what if next year's outfield was: Herrera in LF, JJ Wetherholt in CF, and Alec Burleson in RF? I believe the offensive output from these 3 could be near the top of the league. Now, I know this calls for putting 1 known not good outfielder in RF, and 2 completely unknowns in LF and CF, but I'd give it a whirl. JJ can play CF if he can play SS, 2b and 3b. Edman did it, Saggesse's done it. Heck, Kolten Wong did it.

That leaves you with Contreras at 1b, Donnie at 2b, Winn at SS, Arenado at 3rd, Crooks/Pages behind the dish, Saggesse and Church as IF/OF bench players and then go spend money on a big time bat that can play both 3rd base and DH.

Thoughts?

The only "borderline insane" folks here are the ones who had their head up their (donkey) the last several years willfully ignoring this team's sink into the abyss.

Here's a novel approach how about the ballclub actually signing or trading for a pair of OFers who can actually hit and play the position.

That’s the spirit, 11WS!

Like moths to the flame.

As with you, 11WS.,

Take your troll doll and slither out of here.

Actually, 11WS, this is an open forum for all to express their opinions. If you don’t care for mine, that’s fine. It’s okay to agree to disagree. But when you tell another poster to “slither out of here”, you’re out of line. WAY out of line.

Hey, sport. If this is an open forum FOR ALL TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS, then why have I read you post, several times, that you can’t talk about something unless you’ve done it? You know you are very fond of saying that and you believe it. So, which is it, Slappy?

You're right of course, except for those see themselves as Mods. who break the rules, attack others, troll numerous threads...and are on here 24/7.. I see them as sad and pathetic, needing attention, but harmless.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

The OF is an interesting topic going forward. I can see half a dozen different ways to build a good infield- the outfield not so much.

Burleson probably will be the RF. Herrera probably SHOULD be the LF. Wetherholt COULD be the CF. By "could" I don't mean there is a

chance that he will, I mean I think he could learn the position and do reasonably well there. I'm pretty sure he stays on the infield. It

was a good thought exercise, and you had me interested until you mentioned spending big bucks to get a big bat, or pitching. That's

not happening. Some of your players not mentioned, as well as some of your infielders will fetch whatever pitching is acquired.

Why play Burelson and Hererra in OF when DH available? One can DH

Agree. Gorman and Walker need to go to AAA to prove they can hit before they ever see MLB again, which leaves the DH open for Burly and Herrera.
They need to gamble on Josh Baez in CF by May/June if he continues to progress, b/c VSII is not the answer.
Donny to 3b and JJW to 2b.
There are some interesting FA OFs - Bellinger, Lourdes Gurriel, Bader, Grisham, Robert, Jr., etc.

This has been my guy, just not sure BDWJr will go there.

Not going to take on big contracts next year, may be working to sell. That would be my favorite off season development.

[Cranny]

The OF is an interesting topic going forward. I can see half a dozen different ways to build a good infield- the outfield not so much.

Burleson probably will be the RF. Herrera probably SHOULD be the LF. Wetherholt COULD be the CF. By "could" I don't mean there is a

chance that he will, I mean I think he could learn the position and do reasonably well there. I'm pretty sure he stays on the infield. It

was a good thought exercise, and you had me interested until you mentioned spending big bucks to get a big bat, or pitching. That's

not happening. Some of your players not mentioned, as well as some of your infielders will fetch whatever pitching is acquired.

Why play Burelson and Hererra in OF when DH available? One can DH

Agree. Gorman and Walker need to go to AAA to prove they can hit before they ever see MLB again, which leaves the DH open for Burly and Herrera.
They need to gamble on Josh Baez in CF by May/June if he continues to progress, b/c VSII is not the answer.
Donny to 3b and JJW to 2b.
There are some interesting FA OFs - Bellinger, Lourdes Gurriel, Bader, Grisham, Robert, Jr., etc.

This has been my guy, just not sure BDWJr will go there.

Not going to take on big contracts next year, may be working to sell. That would be my favorite off season development.

[renostl]

The OF is an interesting topic going forward. I can see half a dozen different ways to build a good infield- the outfield not so much.

Burleson probably will be the RF. Herrera probably SHOULD be the LF. Wetherholt COULD be the CF. By "could" I don't mean there is a

chance that he will, I mean I think he could learn the position and do reasonably well there. I'm pretty sure he stays on the infield. It

was a good thought exercise, and you had me interested until you mentioned spending big bucks to get a big bat, or pitching. That's

not happening. Some of your players not mentioned, as well as some of your infielders will fetch whatever pitching is acquired.

Why play Burelson and Hererra in OF when DH available? One can DH

Agree. Gorman and Walker need to go to AAA to prove they can hit before they ever see MLB again, which leaves the DH open for Burly and Herrera.
They need to gamble on Josh Baez in CF by May/June if he continues to progress, b/c VSII is not the answer.
Donny to 3b and JJW to 2b.
There are some interesting FA OFs - Bellinger, Lourdes Gurriel, Bader, Grisham, Robert, Jr., etc.

Interesting yes.
What would make them want to sign on with a team who's name players are leaving
and small crowds?
Trades or from within seems more possible.
The team has to show that they intend to contend for impactful FA to want to join the team.