Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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Old News about the Braves and likely the best spot if Bloom can get a good return.

I'd also add San Fran since he enjoyed some good years across the bay in Oakland.

Possible long shot, Mets?
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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NYCardsFan wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:38 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:15 pm Nine of their top twelve prospects are pitchers. Maybe one or two will interest Bloom.
A “rumor,” you say?

Link? Source?

We all know it will be either 1) your usual speculative SI/MSN/RedbirdRants clickbait cr@p; or 2) something you made up.

#Attention
yup.. it was a fan rumor posted on MSN.. pitiful
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:13 am The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
but ... attendance dips below 2 million
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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Why would the braves be interested in trading one or more of their top prospects for an old starting pitcher whose production has gotten markedly worse each of the last three seasons culminating in an era over 4 and a whip over 1.2 and averages less than 6 innings/start? If only some of that were true then maybe.

But let’s flip it around, would anyone want to trade QM or LD for this type of pitcher? Even in the hypothetical scenario in which the cardinals would be legit division winners? The answer is no effing way
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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FWIW, BTV currently has Gray at -18.6. If the consensus view around MLB front offices is anywhere close to that estimate, the Cardinals would have to kick in quite a bit of money and/or other assets to net a good prospect.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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moose-and-squirrel wrote: 27 Sep 2025 09:27 am
NYCardsFan wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:38 pm
Shady wrote: 26 Sep 2025 19:15 pm Nine of their top twelve prospects are pitchers. Maybe one or two will interest Bloom.
A “rumor,” you say?

Link? Source?

We all know it will be either 1) your usual speculative SI/MSN/RedbirdRants clickbait cr@p; or 2) something you made up.

#Attention
yup.. it was a fan rumor posted on MSN.. pitiful
I guarantee he’s also one of those who believes the facebook AI generated content/stories and can’t tell the difference. Ignorance is bliss I guess.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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rockondlouie wrote: 27 Sep 2025 08:47 am Old News about the Braves and likely the best spot if Bloom can get a good return.

I'd also add San Fran since he enjoyed some good years across the bay in Oakland.

Possible long shot, Mets?
Thought I read an article recently during our series with SF that Gray was on their radar this offseason too.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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dugoutrex wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:15 am
hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:13 am The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
but ... attendance dips below 2 million
It’s not your money…..why do you care?
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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45s wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:30 am
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:15 am
hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:13 am The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
but ... attendance dips below 2 million
It’s not your money…..why do you care?
BDW has to "own" the attendance issue, that's his problem of his own making.

If he can't deal in truth, just sell the team to an owner that wants to win.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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45s wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:30 am
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:15 am
hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:13 am The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
but ... attendance dips below 2 million
It’s not your money…..why do you care?
it was a response to the Cards Happy part - I don't think they'd be happy at all with attendance below 2M
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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NYCardsFan wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:20 am FWIW, BTV currently has Gray at -18.6. If the consensus view around MLB front offices is anywhere close to that estimate, the Cardinals would have to kick in quite a bit of money and/or other assets to net a good prospect.
Worth it.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:51 am
45s wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:30 am
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:15 am
hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:13 am The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
but ... attendance dips below 2 million
It’s not your money…..why do you care?
BDW has to "own" the attendance issue, that's his problem of his own making.

If he can't deal in truth, just sell the team to an owner that wants to win.
All true…..but all this concern about attendance…??

For those who want change…..empty seats are the best tool they have…

There are people on this board who complain about management……just before they tell us they were at the game……..

Hello????? Anyone in there?..

It’s counter intuitive to complain about ownership….but worry that attendance is poor…
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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WaltsSuccessor wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:28 am
rockondlouie wrote: 27 Sep 2025 08:47 am Old News about the Braves and likely the best spot if Bloom can get a good return.

I'd also add San Fran since he enjoyed some good years across the bay in Oakland.

Possible long shot, Mets?
Thought I read an article recently during our series with SF that Gray was on their radar this offseason too.
Makes sense as he (and the family) once lived in the Bay area.

Not the worse thing in the world to finish your career in that beautiful city.

They also have the $$$$ to absorb the bulk ($25M?) of his deal too.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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Has anyone been to SF lately? The homeless and drug users are everywhere. The city was nice and clean back in the early '80's but not so much anymore. I have a number of relatives there and they are not happy with the situation there.
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Re: Rumor has it Atlanta is a potential trade partner for Gray

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45s wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:56 am
hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:51 am
45s wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:30 am
dugoutrex wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:15 am
hmoss859 wrote: 27 Sep 2025 10:13 am The paydown of Gray's salary is directly proportionate to prospect ranking.

If you have to kick in 15 million, you need a top 5 ATL organization prospect.

Atlanta expects to win next year, I assume they would go for that.

Braves Happy, Cards Happy, Sonny Happy.
but ... attendance dips below 2 million
It’s not your money…..why do you care?
BDW has to "own" the attendance issue, that's his problem of his own making.

If he can't deal in truth, just sell the team to an owner that wants to win.
All true…..but all this concern about attendance…??

For those who want change…..empty seats are the best tool they have…

There are people on this board who complain about management……just before they tell us they were at the game……..

Hello????? Anyone in there?..

It’s counter intuitive to complain about ownership….but worry that attendance is poor…
it is also counter productive to think the team will spend more when revenues are down!
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