Barkov injured in practice

[blues2112]

I don't see how Florida is cheating. I do personally think the cap should be weighted for tax though.

A consideration of the net tax burden might be fair, but seemingly impossible to calculate that.

Relative cost of living could be more of a factor than the tax burden.

And, how would you incorporate the US/Canadian exchange rate? Number of games played in cities with an entertainment* tax? Adjusting cap when players are traded?

* There's a specific term, but I forget what it is.

[STL fan in MN]

ESPN dot com has an article on the homepage that he is having surgery on the knee. Article mentions nothing about the injury or the actual procedure so not linking it. Obviously if it's an ACL he's done for the year.

Yep. Maurice said he’s having surgery today and he’s hoping to provide a better update later. My guess is they have a good idea how bad it is but they’re waiting until after the surgery is over to provide a full diagnosis and timeline. The docs probably determined it was bad enough to absolutely need surgery but they’d know just how bad it was once they opened him up and got in there.

Oftentimes, MRIs are delayed a day or two to allow the swelling to go down as sometimes inflammation can hinder the picture. But clearly they did a scan right away and my guess is they know it’s bad but won’t know just how bad until they get in there.

I’m sure we’ll have a full update sometime later today, tomorrow at the latest.

Tough break for Barkov. He’s a good dude and great captain.

[Atlantis17A]

The Miami Herald is reporting he is out for the year. I’d post a link, but it’s behind a paywall.

[Frank Barone]

I don't see how Florida is cheating. I do personally think the cap should be weighted for tax though.

A consideration of the net tax burden might be fair, but seemingly impossible to calculate that.

Relative cost of living could be more of a factor than the tax burden.

And, how would you incorporate the US/Canadian exchange rate? Number of games played in cities with an entertainment* tax? Adjusting cap when players are traded?

* There's a specific term, but I forget what it is.

Yes, virtually impossible to do this. Every city, county, state/province and country have different tax rules, and NHL players play at least one game in every NHL city. I saw recently that athletes in Pittsburgh pay a 3% city tax. (STL still has a 1% tax I believe.) I understand that the zero state tax teams have a slight advantage, but that just means that NHL front offices in other cities have to overcome it.

[MiamiLaw]

I don't see how Florida is cheating. I do personally think the cap should be weighted for tax though.

A consideration of the net tax burden might be fair, but seemingly impossible to calculate that.

Relative cost of living could be more of a factor than the tax burden.

And, how would you incorporate the US/Canadian exchange rate? Number of games played in cities with an entertainment* tax? Adjusting cap when players are traded?

* There's a specific term, but I forget what it is.

I think I saw someone take a stab at weighted COL and tax burden relating to the cap last year but good point on trades for sure. Overall you're right, it seems simple in principle but ends up being very complicated when you start accounting for the nuances.

[blues2112]

I don't see how Florida is cheating. I do personally think the cap should be weighted for tax though.

A consideration of the net tax burden might be fair, but seemingly impossible to calculate that.

Relative cost of living could be more of a factor than the tax burden.

And, how would you incorporate the US/Canadian exchange rate? Number of games played in cities with an entertainment* tax? Adjusting cap when players are traded?

* There's a specific term, but I forget what it is.

I think I saw someone take a stab at weighted COL and tax burden relating to the cap last year but good point on trades for sure. Overall you're right, it seems simple in principle but ends up being very complicated when you start accounting for the nuances.

Of the many other things I do not know, is state income tax ONLY on the income you earn while residing there? Or is based on ALL the income you earn everywhere, even though you're considered a resident of that state? Does "resident" mean 51 percent of the year? How much state income tax can be written off federal, if any?

I'm grateful to live in a state with no income tax and not make enough money to be confused by it all!

[MiamiLaw]

I don't see how Florida is cheating. I do personally think the cap should be weighted for tax though.

A consideration of the net tax burden might be fair, but seemingly impossible to calculate that.

Relative cost of living could be more of a factor than the tax burden.

And, how would you incorporate the US/Canadian exchange rate? Number of games played in cities with an entertainment* tax? Adjusting cap when players are traded?

* There's a specific term, but I forget what it is.

I think I saw someone take a stab at weighted COL and tax burden relating to the cap last year but good point on trades for sure. Overall you're right, it seems simple in principle but ends up being very complicated when you start accounting for the nuances.

Of the many other things I do not know, is state income tax ONLY on the income you earn while residing there? Or is based on ALL the income you earn everywhere, even though you're considered a resident of that state? Does "resident" mean 51 percent of the year? How much state income tax can be written off federal, if any?

I'm grateful to live in a state with no income tax and not make enough money to be confused by it all!

I think, for the sports players, they are considered to make the money where the game is played and they are paid per game for tax purposes. So for 42 games, they are charged in their home state. The other 42 games would be the other team's state.

[blues2112]

I think, for the sports players, they are considered to make the money where the game is played and they are paid per game for tax purposes. So for 42 games, they are charged in their home state. The other 42 games would be the other team's state.

That makes sense.

[TheJackBurton]

The Miami Herald is reporting he is out for the year. I’d post a link, but it’s behind a paywall.

Yeah the fact they immediately went to surgery essentially was the hint that it was a bad one.

[Old_Goat]

I mean…not to be a jerk, but good. Him and MT out? Let’s see FLA circumnavigate the no state taxes now. Cheating a-holes.

Dude, c'mon, you're better than this. Hate players all you want, but being "good" with a serious injury just isn't cool.

Backesdraft, I forgive you and I am sure that you are probably now thinking that maybe you should not have posted in that manner. At least I'm hoping that's the case.
Beyond being a great player, I really feel that Barkov is an excellent human being, team leader, example for youngsters and ambassador for the game. Let's hope that he heals real well and is able to fulfill his full career potential.

[blues2112]

https://www.espn.com/nhl/story/_/id/463 ... ee-surgery

So, Blues Fan in Minnesota explained the Krug cap hit very clearly to me. (TY!)

Now this from the article:

Under the revamped rules, the Panthers could get the full long-term injured reserve relief for Barkov's $10 million cap hit, but he would then be ineligible to play in the regular season or playoffs. If Florida believed Barkov could return, the Panthers could exceed the salary cap by only up to $3.8 million, the previous season's average league salary. And if Barkov does come back for the postseason, the Panthers would have to fit his cap hit under the new playoff salary accounting rules.

[Mr.Snuggleupagus]

I mean…not to be a jerk, but good. Him and MT out? Let’s see FLA circumnavigate the no state taxes now. Cheating a-holes.

You are entitled to your own opinion.

Now let's do Florida a solid and offer Bjugstad to return for a 1st round pick.

[Unfathomable]

The #FlaPanthers announce that captain Aleksander Barkov is expected to miss seven to nine months after suffering ACL and MCL injuries that required surgery today.

https://x.com/reporterchris/status/1971712662271939078