Let's Play: I could fix this franchise in _______ days!!

[rockondlouie]

They were lucky in 2006 and 2011 - everything worked out just right

Huh?

Are you delusional cranny, ..."everything worked out just right"?

Do you even recall the injuries to key players on both those teams?

It's the only thing that kept them from winning 100 games.

Those two teams were LOADED!

Take the time to check out where the experts rated the Cardinals going into the 2006 and 2011 seasons. It may surprise you. Everything worked out just right - momentum, injuries healed up, etc. I may disagree with other poster’s opinions, but I sure don’t call them “delusional”.

"Experts" = People who know NO MORE than any of us, just guys w/an OPINION.

Those two teams were LOADED.

[rockondlouie]

They were lucky in 2006 and 2011 - everything worked out just right

Huh?

Are you delusional cranny, ..."everything worked out just right"?

Do you even recall the injuries to key players on both those teams?

It's the only thing that kept them from winning 100 games.

Those two teams were LOADED!

LOL….current Cranny is such an unabashed lackey for BDW/MO that he disparages the “GOOD” era of BDW/MO to somehow make this incompetent, lazy, cheap era seem less terrible.
‘22 last hope of seeing the PS in STL for probably a decade.
Perhpas Cranny is in the know and is alluding to the BDW/MO main strategy for a playoff team……LUCK
If so, none of them should be around a MLB team

He's a Toady Front Office Footstool for BDWJr/Mo to rest their feet upon.

[rockondlouie]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

[Cranny]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

[rockondlouie]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

[Goldfan]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

[rockondlouie]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

[Cranny]

They were lucky in 2006 and 2011 - everything worked out just right

Huh?

Are you delusional cranny, ..."everything worked out just right"?

Do you even recall the injuries to key players on both those teams?

It's the only thing that kept them from winning 100 games.

Those two teams were LOADED!

Take the time to check out where the experts rated the Cardinals going into the 2006 and 2011 seasons. It may surprise you. Everything worked out just right - momentum, injuries healed up, etc. I may disagree with other poster’s opinions, but I sure don’t call them “delusional”.

"Experts" = People who know NO MORE than any of us, just guys w/an OPINION.

Those two teams were LOADED.

Thanks for your opinion. I don’t agree with it, but I respect it.

[rockondlouie]

They were lucky in 2006 and 2011 - everything worked out just right

Huh?

Are you delusional cranny, ..."everything worked out just right"?

Do you even recall the injuries to key players on both those teams?

It's the only thing that kept them from winning 100 games.

Those two teams were LOADED!

Take the time to check out where the experts rated the Cardinals going into the 2006 and 2011 seasons. It may surprise you. Everything worked out just right - momentum, injuries healed up, etc. I may disagree with other poster’s opinions, but I sure don’t call them “delusional”.

"Experts" = People who know NO MORE than any of us, just guys w/an OPINION.

Those two teams were LOADED.

Thanks for your opinion. I don’t agree with it, but I respect it.

Ditto

[Goldfan]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

So they could sign 3x30mil/yr contracts
2x40mil and 20mil
2x45mil
And still be well under 200mil payroll

Those Cardinals just can’t compete with the big markets…….should be more like if the Cards don’t spend like the stupidest POBO in baseball going forward they can maintain the same payroll as before AND have some elite players/winners

[rockondlouie]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

So they could sign 3x30mil/yr contracts
2x40mil and 20mil
2x45mil
And still be well under 200mil payroll

Those Cardinals just can’t compete with the big markets…….should be more like if the Cards don’t spend like the stupidest POBO in baseball going forward they can maintain the same payroll as before AND have some elite players/winners

The very least Dewitt should do is let Bloom re-invest $40+M and he'd still have a payroll under $150M.

We won't sign any all-stars but Bloom may find a decent #3 starter or two and a hitter.

[Goldfan]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

So they could sign 3x30mil/yr contracts
2x40mil and 20mil
2x45mil
And still be well under 200mil payroll

Those Cardinals just can’t compete with the big markets…….should be more like if the Cards don’t spend like the stupidest POBO in baseball going forward they can maintain the same payroll as before AND have some elite players/winners

The very least Dewitt should do is let Bloom re-invest $40+M and he'd still have a payroll under $150M.

We won't sign any all-stars but Bloom may find a decent #3 starter or two and a hitter.

180-190 should be doable. Sign some stars, get a real manager, start winning again and fans will fill Busch. This isn’t difficult.

[rockondlouie]

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

So they could sign 3x30mil/yr contracts
2x40mil and 20mil
2x45mil
And still be well under 200mil payroll

Those Cardinals just can’t compete with the big markets…….should be more like if the Cards don’t spend like the stupidest POBO in baseball going forward they can maintain the same payroll as before AND have some elite players/winners

The very least Dewitt should do is let Bloom re-invest $40+M and he'd still have a payroll under $150M.

We won't sign any all-stars but Bloom may find a decent #3 starter or two and a hitter.

180-190 should be doable. Sign some stars, get a real manager, start winning again and fans will fill Busch. This isn’t difficult.

Easily but not going to happen.

Just reading K. Woo and she's basically saying the full "re-build" is on at seasons end and Dewitt's looking at it lasting 2-3 years, so no money coming from the skinflint.

[Cranny]

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things m Things that may change cost projections.ay change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc.

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

So they could sign 3x30mil/yr contracts
2x40mil and 20mil
2x45mil
And still be well under 200mil payroll

Those Cardinals just can’t compete with the big markets…….should be more like if the Cards don’t spend like the stupidest POBO in baseball going forward they can maintain the same payroll as before AND have some elite players/winners

The very least Dewitt should do is let Bloom re-invest $40+M and he'd still have a payroll under $150M.

We won't sign any all-stars but Bloom may find a decent #3 starter or two and a hitter.

180-190 should be doable. Sign some stars, get a real manager, start winning again and fans will fill Busch. This isn’t difficult.

Easily but not going to happen.

Just reading K. Woo and she's basically saying the full "re-build" is on at seasons end and Dewitt's looking at it lasting 2-3 years, so no money coming from the skinflint.

History says he’s not a skinflint.

[butsir01]

Maybe some of you didn’t notice the Fowler, Leake, Cecil, Miller, etc. failures. The Cardinals in no way are going to spend huge dollars (long term contracts) on high priced top free agents. Especially with a possible work stoppage looming.

And maybe you didn't notice those horrible moves were all MO SUGGESTIONS and he's gone in four games!

Plus those aren't "high priced free agents" either, low end to middle of the road deals.

Big deal a potential work stoppage.

NEWS FLASH cranny.......BDWJR will NOT BE PAYING any players during a work stoppage so using that as an excuse not to sign a free agent is LAME.

And what you don’t understand, rock, is that a lot of things may change with a newly negotiated agreement. And many teams are going to wait to see what those changes are. Like number of minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc. Things that may change cost projections.

If this org can’t find some people who know what a legit MLB player looks like……the particulars of the new CBA will not matter.
We just wasted an entire season so someone over there could watch the YUTES……some more…..to figure out if they can play in this league.
the answers we all saw this 2025 Season of Yutes were very obvious BEFORE this season started……as I wrote BEFORE the season.
If I can see these things sitting watching games on TV what kind of inferior clowns did BDW have working for him??? Has that improved???

You didn’t enjoy watching Winn?
You didn’t enjoy watching Burleson?
You didn’t enjoy watching Herrra?
You didn’t enjoy watching Liberatore?
You didn’t enjoy watching McGreevy?

Cranny this isn’t tennis. The point of a baseball season is for the TEAM to play well TOGETHER and hopefully be in contention in Oct.
And aside from perhaps Burly and Herrera there was nothing all that wonderful about the others on your list.
You’re attempting to equate seeing something from those players in a losing season that would peak my interest like McGwire in ‘98……that’s one of the only individual players and moments that transcended a losing season…..not even close

I’m afraid you’re going to be wallowing in discontent for a number of years. Until the Cards get lucky again like in 2006 and 2011.

Cranny, you go ahead and root for the name on the back. I root for the team on the front.

[Ozziesfan41]

Oh I fully understand, don't patronize me.

NONE of the "potential" changes you mentioned (...minimum wage years, number of arbitration years, etc) would affect free agents who signed in 2026, those only affect younger players.

LAME excuse for not signing free agents, you should stop using it.

So you don’t think raising the minimum wage or shortening the time for players to make it free agency effects the overall expense budget?

Changing the subject?

Raising the minimum wage by a few thousand dollars or shortening time for players to reach FA has NOTHING to do w/BDWJr not signing quality free agents this offseason.

Using the upcoming negotiations is an EXCUSE for not signing quality FA's Dewitt is using, just as he's used the "re-set" lie the last two seasons to slash payroll by MULTI-MILLIONS.

Some moves have been good. Some not so good.
The way it is.

And the guy who suggested those poor moves is gone after this weekend (or soon after).

So BDWJr shouldn't punish C. Bloom w/ a miniscule payroll just because Mo brought some horrible idea's to him and wasted multi-millions of his payroll dollars.

What’s the ‘26 payroll with Gray, NA, WC traded? Assume paying half of NA

Let's assume BDWJr picks up 50% of NADO's and $10M of Gray's:

How about roughly $90-95M

So they could sign 3x30mil/yr contracts
2x40mil and 20mil
2x45mil
And still be well under 200mil payroll

Those Cardinals just can’t compete with the big markets…….should be more like if the Cards don’t spend like the stupidest POBO in baseball going forward they can maintain the same payroll as before AND have some elite players/winners

The very least Dewitt should do is let Bloom re-invest $40+M and he'd still have a payroll under $150M.

We won't sign any all-stars but Bloom may find a decent #3 starter or two and a hitter.

180-190 should be doable. Sign some stars, get a real manager, start winning again and fans will fill Busch. This isn’t difficult.

Easily but not going to happen.

Just reading K. Woo and she's basically saying the full "re-build" is on at seasons end and Dewitt's looking at it lasting 2-3 years, so no money coming from the skinflint.

History says he’s not a skinflint.

He cut payroll this season and is going to again in the offseason from all of the reports so he might have used to be but he is now