Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
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Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
Interesting thought by the author at Redbirds Rant
He may be onto something
https://redbirdrants.com/chaim-bloom-s- ... n-revealed
He may be onto something
https://redbirdrants.com/chaim-bloom-s- ... n-revealed
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
Tampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
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Bloom, is he all that some believe him to be?
Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...
How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?
I hope he's the antidote to help the Cards but color me suspicious.
Hired in 2019 by the Red Sux. Fired to start 2023 season...
How did he remake the Sux? One playoff appearance since 2019. That was 2021. It's 5-6 years later, and are the Sux really a contender?
I hope he's the antidote to help the Cards but color me suspicious.
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Why do we need a POBO and a GM? Trying to save payroll why not start there.
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
As I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.2ninr wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:54 amTampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.
Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planningScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 07:30 amAs I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.2ninr wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:54 amTampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.
Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82
ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
Regardless of Bloom's past projects, it would be extremely difficult to leave the Cardinals in a worse state than they are right now.
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True, but is it just moving chairs on the Titanic?blackinkbiz wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:13 am Regardless of Bloom's past projects, it would be extremely difficult to leave the Cardinals in a worse state than they are right now.
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Nice work Ecleme.ecleme22 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:12 am2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planningScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 07:30 amAs I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.2ninr wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:54 amTampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.
Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82
ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
The Marlins also hoped to catch some of the Rays thunder by hiring Peter Bendix who was in the Rays organization for a long time. So there's a million teams out there trying to get whatever they can out of the Rays. It always remains to be seen what impact each one of the individuals can have on their own. All we hope for Bloom is to be a smart baseball guy in charge of the Cardinals.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 07:30 amAs I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.2ninr wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:54 amTampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
Want to measure Bloom's success in both TB & Boston a few years after he left, then look at the STOCKED farm systems he left both teams that set them up for success down the road after he left.
Those players, who take anywhere from three to five years to reach MLB, were drafted and developed under his system.
He's inheriting a massive mess from Mo and has a big job turning the franchise around.
The farm system is now on the right path, let's see what he does this winter to the major league roster.
And I'd put R. Cerfolio as the favorite for the GM office.
Those players, who take anywhere from three to five years to reach MLB, were drafted and developed under his system.
He's inheriting a massive mess from Mo and has a big job turning the franchise around.
The farm system is now on the right path, let's see what he does this winter to the major league roster.
And I'd put R. Cerfolio as the favorite for the GM office.
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Kevin Cash stayed in Tampa. Tampa won 100/86/99 and Boston posted losing records. Perhaps the manager had something to do with the success? Perhaps Friedman also had something to do with Tampa's success?ecleme22 wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 08:12 am2014: The Rays promoted Bloom to Vice President of Baseball Operations. His responsibilities expanded to include his overseeing domestic and international player development, a newly created baseball performance science department, trade negotiations, pro, amateur, and international scouting philosophy, personnel additions and changes throughout baseball operations, and short- and long-term strategic planningScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 07:30 amAs I understand it the question in Boston is whether the owner was pulling a Gussie Busch and ordering him to trade good and popular players like Betts and Bogaerts. Bottom line they got better after he left. Currently sitting at 87 wins.2ninr wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:54 amTampa got better after he was gone. Maybe the groundwork he layed had something to do with that. I know you are aware he was forced to shed salary in Boston and than was fired because of the fans blaming him. Than they got better as well. It's all how you want to frame it.ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025 06:33 am Good article. I'm not convinced Bloom was the genius behind Tampa's success. They won 99 games in 2023 - 4 years after he left. If Rodriguez was the primary reason for their success then it's a good hire.
Meanwhile Boston got worse while he was there.
If he was responsible for the Tampa success then that's great but I've known people who were quick to take credit for the success of others. I'm not so sure Andrew Friedman wasn't a big part of that. He seems to be doing well with the Dodgers.
Tampa's record:
2016: 68-94
2017: 80-82
2018: 90-72
2019: 96-66 (BLOOM LEAVES FOR BOSTON after season)
2020: 40-20 (Made it to the WS)
2021: 100-62
2022: 86-76
2023: 99-63
2024: 80-82
ScotchMIrish, unless you want to argue that Bloom got to take all the amateur players he signed/drafted and the scouting personnel/philosophy with him to Boston, then your argument is a bad one...
I've knows people whose best quality is taking credit for the accomplishments of others. Bloom was unemployed until the Cardinals hired him. If he was the driver of Tampa's success then great but I'll let him show it in the standings rather than stipulate to it.
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Re: Is Carlos Rodriguez from Tampa the front runner for Cardinals GM?
What the he!! is Tampa doing with 4 Assistant GM's? Idiotic