Potential plan with Gorman for 2026

[imadangman]

We are tired of Gorman, but common sense says 2026 is his "last shot." Last shot to build trade value that is.

I got to thinking the potential is still there for Gorman to build trade value. Not so much with a guy like Nootbaar(who was discussed today), who seems to have his flaws well defined at this point.

Let's say Gorman had his "Tyler O'Neill 2021" season... as a 2nd baseman. I think you could indeed build enough allure for at least one team out there to believe he is... "the unicorn." Ultimately, I think it would be foolish to not capitalize on the trade value in this scenario. Even if he had a big 1st half to where he's got 20+ homers at the break, you'd probably be best to hit the stop button right there and trade him at the deadline to a contender.

I guess you could come into the season with Wetherholt at 3B and Donnie in LF. We like Wetherholt playing 2B but plenty of rookies do hop around the field a bit before settling into "their" position. There can be player decisions, there can be team decisions. I'm sure rookies are programmed to understand this. I'm sure Pujols did not feel "entitled" to a certain defensive position in 2001.

TLDR: there might be nothing to lose by keeping Gorman around for 2026 on the off chance that he can build some trade value.

[Vinegar Ben]

If you have been watching him lately look at the expression on his face. He doesn't seem to be focused on the game. He is a poor fielding 3rd baseman. Keep Nolan for his defense. They aren't going anywhere. Buy him a bus ticket to Colorado. He will fit pretty good there.

[Ozziesfan41]

If you have been watching him lately look at the expression on his face. He doesn't seem to be focused on the game. He is a poor fielding 3rd baseman. Keep Nolan for his defense. They aren't going anywhere. Buy him a bus ticket to Colorado. He will fit pretty good there.

+1 I’m not interested in seeing another runway of him sucking and being a sub .700 ops poor fielder and that’s what he will do because that’s what he is no matter how much people wish he could be better. Trade him while he still probably has some value instead of waiting like Carlson for him to have next to no value

[Absolut]

I personally need another 1400 at bats. Just to be sure.

[Ozziesfan41]

I personally need another 1400 at bats. Just to be sure.

lol why not give him a runway career

[Talkin' Baseball]

If you have been watching him lately look at the expression on his face. He doesn't seem to be focused on the game. He is a poor fielding 3rd baseman. Keep Nolan for his defense. They aren't going anywhere. Buy him a bus ticket to Colorado. He will fit pretty good there.

+1 I’m not interested in seeing another runway of him sucking and being a sub .700 ops poor fielder and that’s what he will do because that’s what he is no matter how much people wish he could be better. Trade him while he still probably has some value instead of waiting like Carlson for him to have next to no value

This is where things are.

[Hoosier59]

I think while Arenado was out injured was Gorman’s last chance to shine in St. Louis. For a short while it looked like he might, but then….
He Returned to who he is, or better yet, who he has chosen to be.
He could be better, but he won’t listen or adjust, so it’s time to move on and get what you can for him.
There’s a chance, somewhere down the road, he grows up and decides his way isn’t working, but it’s a small chance.

[imadangman]

If you have been watching him lately look at the expression on his face. He doesn't seem to be focused on the game. He is a poor fielding 3rd baseman. Keep Nolan for his defense. They aren't going anywhere. Buy him a bus ticket to Colorado. He will fit pretty good there.

+1 I’m not interested in seeing another runway of him sucking and being a sub .700 ops poor fielder and that’s what he will do because that’s what he is no matter how much people wish he could be better. Trade him while he still probably has some value instead of waiting like Carlson for him to have next to no value

This is where things are.

You guys very well could be right

[IndCard75]

Personally I think they are talking about trying Herrera at catcher next year because they realize it’s going to be difficult to trade Arenado so they need the DH spot open for Gorman. Also even if they are able to trade Arenado they would rather have Wetherholt at 3B than Gorman. Gorman is DH and back up 3B 2B 1B.

[JuanAgosto]

I think Gorman may be dealt in the offseason. Walker may get another year.

[Ozziesfan41]

I think Gorman may be dealt in the offseason. Walker may get another year.

That’s what I’m thinking happens.

[Melville]

We are tired of Gorman, but common sense says 2026 is his "last shot." Last shot to build trade value that is.

I got to thinking the potential is still there for Gorman to build trade value. Not so much with a guy like Nootbaar(who was discussed today), who seems to have his flaws well defined at this point.

Let's say Gorman had his "Tyler O'Neill 2021" season... as a 2nd baseman. I think you could indeed build enough allure for at least one team out there to believe he is... "the unicorn." Ultimately, I think it would be foolish to not capitalize on the trade value in this scenario. Even if he had a big 1st half to where he's got 20+ homers at the break, you'd probably be best to hit the stop button right there and trade him at the deadline to a contender.

I guess you could come into the season with Wetherholt at 3B and Donnie in LF. We like Wetherholt playing 2B but plenty of rookies do hop around the field a bit before settling into "their" position. There can be player decisions, there can be team decisions. I'm sure rookies are programmed to understand this. I'm sure Pujols did not feel "entitled" to a certain defensive position in 2001.

TLDR: there might be nothing to lose by keeping Gorman around for 2026 on the off chance that he can build some trade value.

Gorman has far more value than most think.
Folks tend to miss the fact that this year his is on pace for 22 HR, 79 RBI, and 80 runs, per 600 PA's.
That would put his production in roughly the top 3rd of 3B's.
And top 3rd in 2B.
And even higher among LH hitters at those spots.
Understandably, a lot of folks get stick on the K's or BA - and forget the game is about production.
Not an endorsement.
Simply unbiased fact.
If they shop him, there will be a long line.

[Talkin' Baseball]

We are tired of Gorman, but common sense says 2026 is his "last shot." Last shot to build trade value that is.

I got to thinking the potential is still there for Gorman to build trade value. Not so much with a guy like Nootbaar(who was discussed today), who seems to have his flaws well defined at this point.

Let's say Gorman had his "Tyler O'Neill 2021" season... as a 2nd baseman. I think you could indeed build enough allure for at least one team out there to believe he is... "the unicorn." Ultimately, I think it would be foolish to not capitalize on the trade value in this scenario. Even if he had a big 1st half to where he's got 20+ homers at the break, you'd probably be best to hit the stop button right there and trade him at the deadline to a contender.

I guess you could come into the season with Wetherholt at 3B and Donnie in LF. We like Wetherholt playing 2B but plenty of rookies do hop around the field a bit before settling into "their" position. There can be player decisions, there can be team decisions. I'm sure rookies are programmed to understand this. I'm sure Pujols did not feel "entitled" to a certain defensive position in 2001.

TLDR: there might be nothing to lose by keeping Gorman around for 2026 on the off chance that he can build some trade value.

Gorman has far more value than most think.
Folks tend to miss the fact that this year his is on pace for 22 HR, 79 RBI, and 80 runs, per 600 PA's.
That would put his production in roughly the top 3rd of 3B's.
And top 3rd in 2B.
And even higher among LH hitters at those spots.
Understandably, a lot of folks get stick on the K's or BA - and forget the game is about production.
Not an endorsement.
Simply unbiased fact.
If they shop him, there will be a long line.

I'd be a little surprised if he has a season in his career where he gets 600 plate appearances. I realize extrapolating that is a good

way to normalize the numbers and compare players. I'm just saying, I wouldn't want to spend a roster spot on Gorman to get 15 HR's

a season. That's not much, and he doesn't offer anything else. I hope you are right about a long line if they shop him.

[Ozziesfan41]

We are tired of Gorman, but common sense says 2026 is his "last shot." Last shot to build trade value that is.

I got to thinking the potential is still there for Gorman to build trade value. Not so much with a guy like Nootbaar(who was discussed today), who seems to have his flaws well defined at this point.

Let's say Gorman had his "Tyler O'Neill 2021" season... as a 2nd baseman. I think you could indeed build enough allure for at least one team out there to believe he is... "the unicorn." Ultimately, I think it would be foolish to not capitalize on the trade value in this scenario. Even if he had a big 1st half to where he's got 20+ homers at the break, you'd probably be best to hit the stop button right there and trade him at the deadline to a contender.

I guess you could come into the season with Wetherholt at 3B and Donnie in LF. We like Wetherholt playing 2B but plenty of rookies do hop around the field a bit before settling into "their" position. There can be player decisions, there can be team decisions. I'm sure rookies are programmed to understand this. I'm sure Pujols did not feel "entitled" to a certain defensive position in 2001.

TLDR: there might be nothing to lose by keeping Gorman around for 2026 on the off chance that he can build some trade value.

Gorman has far more value than most think.
Folks tend to miss the fact that this year his is on pace for 22 HR, 79 RBI, and 80 runs, per 600 PA's.
That would put his production in roughly the top 3rd of 3B's.
And top 3rd in 2B.
And even higher among LH hitters at those spots.
Understandably, a lot of folks get stick on the K's or BA - and forget the game is about production.
Not an endorsement.
Simply unbiased fact.
If they shop him, there will be a long line.

lol youre desperate sounding just like people talking about O’Neil if he could get 600 at bats he would do great! He sucks he can’t hit or field and he has 4 fewer home runs than Herrera who you say has no power

[Bomber1]

We are tired of Gorman, but common sense says 2026 is his "last shot." Last shot to build trade value that is.

I got to thinking the potential is still there for Gorman to build trade value. Not so much with a guy like Nootbaar(who was discussed today), who seems to have his flaws well defined at this point.

Let's say Gorman had his "Tyler O'Neill 2021" season... as a 2nd baseman. I think you could indeed build enough allure for at least one team out there to believe he is... "the unicorn." Ultimately, I think it would be foolish to not capitalize on the trade value in this scenario. Even if he had a big 1st half to where he's got 20+ homers at the break, you'd probably be best to hit the stop button right there and trade him at the deadline to a contender.

I guess you could come into the season with Wetherholt at 3B and Donnie in LF. We like Wetherholt playing 2B but plenty of rookies do hop around the field a bit before settling into "their" position. There can be player decisions, there can be team decisions. I'm sure rookies are programmed to understand this. I'm sure Pujols did not feel "entitled" to a certain defensive position in 2001.

TLDR: there might be nothing to lose by keeping Gorman around for 2026 on the off chance that he can build some trade value.

Gorman has far more value than most think.
Folks tend to miss the fact that this year his is on pace for 22 HR, 79 RBI, and 80 runs, per 600 PA's.
That would put his production in roughly the top 3rd of 3B's.
And top 3rd in 2B.
And even higher among LH hitters at those spots.
Understandably, a lot of folks get stick on the K's or BA - and forget the game is about production.
Not an endorsement.
Simply unbiased fact.
If they shop him, there will be a long line.

lol you’re too funny.

“Per 600 PA” sounds exactly like the Nootbaar lovers last offseason who assured all of us that all Nooty needed was health to put up all these imaginary numbers.

Gorman sucks and whether there’s a long line or not he needs gone this offseason.

[JuanAgosto]

I think Gorman may be dealt in the offseason. Walker may get another year.

That’s what I’m thinking happens.

You think Wetherholt to 3b, Winn SS, and Saggese at 2b?
Or Donovan at 3b, Winn SS, and Wetherholt at 2b?