Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
2022 - "He's only 22."
2023 - "He's only 23."
2024 - "He's only 24."
2025 - "He's only 25."
When does Gorman become something other than his age?
And potential? Here's his potential...Next season he has a really good chance of being 26.
Excellent!! He is just another Flores 1st round bust.
+2 it’s another Dylan Carlson situation oh he’s just 21 he’s going to be lance berkman oh he’s just 22 oh he’s just 23 oh he’s just 24 oh he’s just 25. They thought Carlson was going to be the next lance berkman and Gorman is the next scwarber
Well here's something to consider:
Was our frustration towards Carlson primarily do to:
1. Carlson's performance?
2. The way Mo hyped up DC and built the roster dependent on Carlson being successful and 100% healthy?
To me, it was the latter.
Unless there's some interesting trade made, Gorman can come to Spring Training as a JAG. His spot on the roster won't block anybody.
(Also, let's not forget, I did say he has 'Phil Plantier vibes' in my initial email, in case you're mistaken me for a homer)
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
That’s assuming they spend that money which certainly is no gimme.
And again, IMO, keeping Gorman because his value is low is dumb. His value is low because he sucks, not because it’s some temporary thing.
Keeping guys who suck because their value is low is Mozeliak-think. That’s how we end up holding on to the likes of Reyes, Carlson, and others until they’re worth nothing to us or anybody else.
You're assuming I brought up Gorman's value to imply that we should wait until it goes up before trading him. Not true. It's more like 'what's the point now?' It's not like he will block anybody in the short term.
Also, maybe the team won't spend money they save from and Arenado trade. I would still like him gone though...
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
2022 - "He's only 22."
2023 - "He's only 23."
2024 - "He's only 24."
2025 - "He's only 25."
When does Gorman become something other than his age?
And potential? Here's his potential...Next season he has a really good chance of being 26.
Excellent!! He is just another Flores 1st round bust.
+2 it’s another Dylan Carlson situation oh he’s just 21 he’s going to be lance berkman oh he’s just 22 oh he’s just 23 oh he’s just 24 oh he’s just 25. They thought Carlson was going to be the next lance berkman and Gorman is the next scwarber
Well here's something to consider:
Was our frustration towards Carlson primarily do to:
1. Carlson's performance?
2. The way Mo hyped up DC and built the roster dependent on Carlson being successful and 100% healthy?
To me, it was the latter.
Unless there's some interesting trade made, Gorman can come to Spring Training as a JAG. His spot on the roster won't block anybody.
(Also, let's not forget, I did say he has 'Phil Plantier vibes' in my initial email, in case you're mistaken me for a homer)
So another season of watching him suck in the field and put up a sub .700 ops but I guess it will be a boost to those fans who always fall for and get excited when when he has his yearly hot streak and swear he’s figured it out until once again he sucks
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
That’s assuming they spend that money which certainly is no gimme.
And again, IMO, keeping Gorman because his value is low is dumb. His value is low because he sucks, not because it’s some temporary thing.
Keeping guys who suck because their value is low is Mozeliak-think. That’s how we end up holding on to the likes of Reyes, Carlson, and others until they’re worth nothing to us or anybody else.
You're assuming I brought up Gorman's value to imply that we should wait until it goes up before trading him. Not true. It's more like 'what's the point now?' It's not like he will block anybody in the short term.
Also, maybe the team won't spend money they save from and Arenado trade. I would still like him gone though...
I don’t care if Gorman is blocking anybody or not.
He sucks.
Move on from him.
This team needs to stop giving guys 3, 4, 5 year tryouts whether they’re blocking people or not.
Bader
O’Neill
Carlson
Reyes
Gorman
Walker - although I’d stash him at aaa before making decision end of ‘26.
The only thing at which John Mozeliak excelled was procrastination.
I hope Bloom makes personnel decisions much more quickly.
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
2022 - "He's only 22."
2023 - "He's only 23."
2024 - "He's only 24."
2025 - "He's only 25."
When does Gorman become something other than his age?
And potential? Here's his potential...Next season he has a really good chance of being 26.
Excellent!! He is just another Flores 1st round bust.
+2 it’s another Dylan Carlson situation oh he’s just 21 he’s going to be lance berkman oh he’s just 22 oh he’s just 23 oh he’s just 24 oh he’s just 25. They thought Carlson was going to be the next lance berkman and Gorman is the next scwarber
Well here's something to consider:
Was our frustration towards Carlson primarily do to:
1. Carlson's performance?
2. The way Mo hyped up DC and built the roster dependent on Carlson being successful and 100% healthy?
To me, it was the latter.
Unless there's some interesting trade made, Gorman can come to Spring Training as a JAG. His spot on the roster won't block anybody.
(Also, let's not forget, I did say he has 'Phil Plantier vibes' in my initial email, in case you're mistaken me for a homer)
So another season of watching him suck in the field and put up a sub .700 ops but I guess it will be a boost to those fans who always fall for and get excited when when he has his yearly hot streak and swear he’s figured it out until once again he sucks
Here's the thing:
If the team has a definitive direction they want to take the infield, then by all means trade Gorman.*
But if they don't and still in a 'see what happens with JJ/Sagesse/Gorman/etc' mode, then I'm okay with keeping Gorman for now.
*(Keeping Arenado doesn't qualify as a 'definitive direction.')
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
That’s assuming they spend that money which certainly is no gimme.
And again, IMO, keeping Gorman because his value is low is dumb. His value is low because he sucks, not because it’s some temporary thing.
Keeping guys who suck because their value is low is Mozeliak-think. That’s how we end up holding on to the likes of Reyes, Carlson, and others until they’re worth nothing to us or anybody else.
You're assuming I brought up Gorman's value to imply that we should wait until it goes up before trading him. Not true. It's more like 'what's the point now?' It's not like he will block anybody in the short term.
Also, maybe the team won't spend money they save from and Arenado trade. I would still like him gone though...
I don’t care if Gorman is blocking anybody or not.
He sucks.
Move on from him.
This team needs to stop giving guys 3, 4, 5 year tryouts whether they’re blocking people or not.
Bader
O’Neill
Carlson
Reyes
Gorman
Walker - although I’d stash him at aaa before making decision end of ‘26.
The only thing at which John Mozeliak excelled was procrastination.
I hope Bloom makes personnel decisions much more quickly.
I agree 100%.
Though I still think worst thing about HB, TO and DC wasn't their struggles or length of time here. It was the way the organization treated them like the FAB THREE and built the roster so they no doubt had 150+ starts.
If NG isn't blocking anyone in 2026, I'm okay with at least him being with the team when spring training starts.
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
2022 - "He's only 22."
2023 - "He's only 23."
2024 - "He's only 24."
2025 - "He's only 25."
When does Gorman become something other than his age?
And potential? Here's his potential...Next season he has a really good chance of being 26.
Excellent!! He is just another Flores 1st round bust.
+2 it’s another Dylan Carlson situation oh he’s just 21 he’s going to be lance berkman oh he’s just 22 oh he’s just 23 oh he’s just 24 oh he’s just 25. They thought Carlson was going to be the next lance berkman and Gorman is the next scwarber
Well here's something to consider:
Was our frustration towards Carlson primarily do to:
1. Carlson's performance?
2. The way Mo hyped up DC and built the roster dependent on Carlson being successful and 100% healthy?
To me, it was the latter.
Unless there's some interesting trade made, Gorman can come to Spring Training as a JAG. His spot on the roster won't block anybody.
(Also, let's not forget, I did say he has 'Phil Plantier vibes' in my initial email, in case you're mistaken me for a homer)
So another season of watching him suck in the field and put up a sub .700 ops but I guess it will be a boost to those fans who always fall for and get excited when when he has his yearly hot streak and swear he’s figured it out until once again he sucks
Here's the thing:
If the team has a definitive direction they want to take the infield, then by all means trade Gorman.*
But if they don't and still in a 'see what happens with JJ/Sagesse/Gorman/etc' mode, then I'm okay with keeping Gorman for now.
*(Keeping Arenado doesn't qualify as a 'definitive direction.')
Keeping Gorman isn’t a direction either it’s hope and prayer on another Carlson. But it will be hilarious when the gullible people fall for his yearly hot streak again and there’s all the posts about how he’s figured it out and Mel will do his post after post declaring himself right about the great unicorn and then he will suck again and have a sub .700 ops ton of strike outs and poor defense. So that’s something to look forward to at least I guess that will be the only good part about seeing another season of him sucking
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
2022 - "He's only 22."
2023 - "He's only 23."
2024 - "He's only 24."
2025 - "He's only 25."
When does Gorman become something other than his age?
And potential? Here's his potential...Next season he has a really good chance of being 26.
Excellent!! He is just another Flores 1st round bust.
+2 it’s another Dylan Carlson situation oh he’s just 21 he’s going to be lance berkman oh he’s just 22 oh he’s just 23 oh he’s just 24 oh he’s just 25. They thought Carlson was going to be the next lance berkman and Gorman is the next scwarber
Well here's something to consider:
Was our frustration towards Carlson primarily do to:
1. Carlson's performance?
2. The way Mo hyped up DC and built the roster dependent on Carlson being successful and 100% healthy?
To me, it was the latter.
Unless there's some interesting trade made, Gorman can come to Spring Training as a JAG. His spot on the roster won't block anybody.
(Also, let's not forget, I did say he has 'Phil Plantier vibes' in my initial email, in case you're mistaken me for a homer)
So another season of watching him suck in the field and put up a sub .700 ops but I guess it will be a boost to those fans who always fall for and get excited when when he has his yearly hot streak and swear he’s figured it out until once again he sucks
Here's the thing:
If the team has a definitive direction they want to take the infield, then by all means trade Gorman.*
But if they don't and still in a 'see what happens with JJ/Sagesse/Gorman/etc' mode, then I'm okay with keeping Gorman for now.
*(Keeping Arenado doesn't qualify as a 'definitive direction.')
Yes it does count as a definitive direction IF Bloom decides that none of Wetherholt, Saggese, or Gorman can be an everyday 3B. Arenado holds the fort until they find his replacement.
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Stating the obvious, the Cardinals moving Arenado is pretty much a given. while certainly entertaining offers for Contreras and Gray. The Cards may also look to shop Donovan and Noot. I don't think the Cards will trade Gorman, Walker or Scott. At this point the reward may be better than the return. Those 3 are still young enough to develop in the players the Cards hope they would be. The Cards hopefully will make each one of those 3 compete for their starting jobs in the Spring. None will be automatically penciled into the starting lineup. JJ and Saggese will compete for starting jobs. Bloom will bring in other young players to compete for the jobs. It will really help the lineup if Herrera can be the starting catcher and occasional DH. I hope he shows improvement in ST. I think the biggest priorities for Bloom is to go to the outside for starting pitching and a right handed power hitter.
Some team will likely take a shot at $21M/2 yrs if for nothing else but his (still) great defense and the possibility he rebounds to a league average (100 wRC+) hitter.
But BDWJr has to eat that other $21M and accept little in return.
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
I too would like to trade Donovan and Nootbar. Trade Gorman? Only if he's involved in some interesting trade since his value is worth little. Gorman has shown a lot of potential, and he's only 25! But he's giving me Phil Plantier vibes.
But about Arenado...Maybe NA at 3B would be better than Gorman. But trading him and having around 12mil next year to spend on pitching might be the better move. Even if it means Saggese is playing a lot of 3B...
2022 - "He's only 22."
2023 - "He's only 23."
2024 - "He's only 24."
2025 - "He's only 25."
When does Gorman become something other than his age? And potential? Here's his potential...Next season he has a really good chance of being 26.
Bomber1 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 08:47 am
Just my 2 cents - it would be idiotic to eat a large chunk of Arenado’s salary to get rid of him, only to give the 3B job to Gorman.
I hope there is a better plan than that.
The primary motive should be moving Arenado.
Who he’s replaced with in the near term shouldn’t be something to worry about.
I hope they trade him even if it means eating half of his salary.
Personally I would trade Donovan, Nootbaar, and Gorman.
That gives LF to Herrera, RF to Burleson, 3B to Arenado for 2 years, and 2B to Wetherholt.
And I don’t see any good reason to keep Gorman around. He has been nothing short of terrible and it’s no longer a small sample size.
Just what exactly does eating a large chunk of money and moving Arenado accomplish?
A .700 OPS Arenado at least helps due to defense.
A .720 OPS Gorman doesn’t help the team in any way.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 11:09 am
It seems like if he were going anywhere, he'd be there by now. If BDW wasn't willing to eat the contract this year, why would he be willing next year?
Answer: Because in 2025 he lost over 1 million fans in attendance in 2025 ??
I hope so. But I have yet to see any sign that BDW is taking measures to improve attendance or relations with the fan base.
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 11:09 am
It seems like if he were going anywhere, he'd be there by now. If BDW wasn't willing to eat the contract this year, why would he be willing next year?
Answer: Because in 2025 he lost over 1 million fans in attendance in 2025 ??
The real difference is arenado will probably be willing to waive his NTC this time
But at this point, will there be anyone to waive it for?
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 11:09 am
It seems like if he were going anywhere, he'd be there by now. If BDW wasn't willing to eat the contract this year, why would he be willing next year?
Answer: Because in 2025 he lost over 1 million fans in attendance in 2025 ??
The real difference is arenado will probably be willing to waive his NTC this time
But at this point, will there be anyone to waive it for?
Oh yea with him going to back to gold glove defense there will definitely be takers as long as the cardinals eat money which I think they will do to get rid of him
Dicktar2023 wrote: ↑22 Sep 2025 11:09 am
It seems like if he were going anywhere, he'd be there by now. If BDW wasn't willing to eat the contract this year, why would he be willing next year?
Answer: Because in 2025 he lost over 1 million fans in attendance in 2025 ??
The real difference is arenado will probably be willing to waive his NTC this time
But at this point, will there be anyone to waive it for?
Oh yea with him going to back to gold glove defense there will definitely be takers as long as the cardinals eat money which I think they will do to get rid of him
I want to believe, but I don't think things have changed that much in the last 6 months. Is anything, NA's value has plummeted (he's not going to win the GG this year). I doubt BDW's appetite for eating money has increased.
