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Arenado confession

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Despite not having superstar offensive output, having Arenado back at 3rd is a huge positive. He is top 3 all-time defensively @ 3rd! Hope he is a Cardinal next year!
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Re: Arenado confession

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I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
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Re: Arenado confession

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Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
Nobody needs 3 catchers, especially if you still have WillyCon and Herrera

Just stupid
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Re: Arenado confession

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
Nobody needs 3 catchers, especially if you still have WillyCon and Herrera

Just stupid


Move Nootbaar
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Re: Arenado confession

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
Nobody needs 3 catchers, especially if you still have WillyCon and Herrera

Just stupid
If you took the TIME to COUNT you’ll NOTICE that I LISTED the POSSIBLE choices for Catcher(2 in total)
Then
Contreras
Wetherholt
Winn
Arenado
Scott
Donovan
Burleson
Walker
Herrera
makes 9 more!
Saggese AND ? makes 2 more!

That is 2 + 9 + 2 = 13!!!!!!!!

Go sleep it off you annoying loser!!!!!!!
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Re: Arenado confession

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Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
Nobody needs 3 catchers, especially if you still have WillyCon and Herrera

Just stupid
If you took the TIME to COUNT you’ll NOTICE that I LISTED the POSSIBLE choices for Catcher(2 in total)
Then
Contreras
Wetherholt
Winn
Arenado
Scott
Donovan
Burleson
Walker[*]
Herrera
makes 9 more!
Saggese AND ? makes 2 more!

That is 2 + 9 + 2 = 13!!!!!!!!

Go sleep it off you annoying loser!!!!!!!
No, you posted, "in my heart I'd love to see"

Moran

Get your head out of your (donkey)
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Re: Arenado confession

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:11 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
Nobody needs 3 catchers, especially if you still have WillyCon and Herrera

Just stupid
If you took the TIME to COUNT you’ll NOTICE that I LISTED the POSSIBLE choices for Catcher(2 in total)
Then
Contreras
Wetherholt
Winn
Arenado
Scott
Donovan
Burleson
Walker[*]
Herrera
makes 9 more!
Saggese AND ? makes 2 more!

That is 2 + 9 + 2 = 13!!!!!!!!

Go sleep it off you annoying loser!!!!!!!
No, you posted, "in my heart I'd love to see"

Moran

Get your head out of your (donkey)
Why do you think I specifically listed Saggese and ??????????
Can you add?????
And you’re calling me a Moran.
Your entire posting history is a complete joke as you’re a pathetic cowardly [ablution] that hides behind a computer.
And now you know I’m RIGHT but don’t have the stones to admit.
Sober up
Get some Fleet Products
Take a Dale Carnegie Course
Better yet....take a hike
Thus ends the lesson!! LMFAO
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Re: Arenado confession

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Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
I’d like to see them move Donovan (big fan) and Burleson (indifferent) with any higher level prospects not named Wetherholt or Doyle, and get a solid starting pitcher. And also add a good starter and RH OF’er, even with a free agency overpay.

Adding two solid starters along with Gray, Liberatore, McGreevy and Quinn Mathews and Doyle on the way puts the rotation in pretty good shape.

Adding a legit (doesn’t have to be a superstar) OFer with a revamped rotation I think would get the team back to playoff contention and at least make it interesting while simultaneously rebuilding the core through draft/development.
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Re: Arenado confession

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:37 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
I’d like to see them move Donovan (big fan) and Burleson (indifferent) with any higher level prospects not named Wetherholt or Doyle, and get a solid starting pitcher. And also add a good starter and RH OF’er, even with a free agency overpay.

Adding two solid starters along with Gray, Liberatore, McGreevy and Quinn Mathews and Doyle on the way puts the rotation in pretty good shape.

Adding a legit (doesn’t have to be a superstar) OFer with a revamped rotation I think would get the team back to playoff contention and at least make it interesting while simultaneously rebuilding the core through draft/development.
I’d be fine with that!
I just mentioned Noot and Gorman as the two I’d prefer to trade.
But you are correct....to get any pitcher(s) of quality you’ll likely have to move better players than those two.
As you suggested....Donovan and/or Burleson.
Bloom has decisions to make for sure.
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Re: Arenado confession

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Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:51 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:37 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
I’d like to see them move Donovan (big fan) and Burleson (indifferent) with any higher level prospects not named Wetherholt or Doyle, and get a solid starting pitcher. And also add a good starter and RH OF’er, even with a free agency overpay.

Adding two solid starters along with Gray, Liberatore, McGreevy and Quinn Mathews and Doyle on the way puts the rotation in pretty good shape.

Adding a legit (doesn’t have to be a superstar) OFer with a revamped rotation I think would get the team back to playoff contention and at least make it interesting while simultaneously rebuilding the core through draft/development.
I’d be fine with that!
I just mentioned Noot and Gorman as the two I’d prefer to trade.
But you are correct....to get any pitcher(s) of quality you’ll likely have to move better players than those two.
As you suggested....Donovan and/or Burleson.
Bloom has decisions to make for sure.
I think there could still be somewhat of a market for Noot too just because he’s a metrics darling…or whatever that’s called. A few teams would probably still like to have him as a throw in as the finishing touch on a good trade.

I don’t mind waiting a few years for the WS-level rebuild but would like to see them scratch their way in the playoffs next couple of years just for the entertainment value.
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Re: Arenado confession

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CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Sep 2025 22:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:51 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:37 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
I’d like to see them move Donovan (big fan) and Burleson (indifferent) with any higher level prospects not named Wetherholt or Doyle, and get a solid starting pitcher. And also add a good starter and RH OF’er, even with a free agency overpay.

Adding two solid starters along with Gray, Liberatore, McGreevy and Quinn Mathews and Doyle on the way puts the rotation in pretty good shape.

Adding a legit (doesn’t have to be a superstar) OFer with a revamped rotation I think would get the team back to playoff contention and at least make it interesting while simultaneously rebuilding the core through draft/development.
I’d be fine with that!
I just mentioned Noot and Gorman as the two I’d prefer to trade.
But you are correct....to get any pitcher(s) of quality you’ll likely have to move better players than those two.
As you suggested....Donovan and/or Burleson.
Bloom has decisions to make for sure.
I think there could still be somewhat of a market for Noot too just because he’s a metrics darling…or whatever that’s called. A few teams would probably still like to have him as a throw in as the finishing touch on a good trade.

I don’t mind waiting a few years for the WS-level rebuild but would like to see them scratch their way in the playoffs next couple of years just for the entertainment value.
I’m fine with being patient.
I’d rather have them do it right than rush and make knee jerk moves.
As we have seen....being a .500 team usually keeps you in the WC chase into September.
And yes....the time to deal Noot is now while he has value.
The Cards have some promising pitchers who all could debut next year or ST 2027.
They are overdue in that regard. Been a long time since Flaherty and Reyes were supposedly the future.
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Re: Arenado confession

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Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
How do we not get a new OF back in return for Noot and Gorman? Or trade for one otherwise?

How about someone like Bryan Reynolds?
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Re: Arenado confession

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Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 22:16 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Sep 2025 22:03 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:51 pm
CorneliusWolfe wrote: 20 Sep 2025 21:37 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
I’d like to see them move Donovan (big fan) and Burleson (indifferent) with any higher level prospects not named Wetherholt or Doyle, and get a solid starting pitcher. And also add a good starter and RH OF’er, even with a free agency overpay.

Adding two solid starters along with Gray, Liberatore, McGreevy and Quinn Mathews and Doyle on the way puts the rotation in pretty good shape.

Adding a legit (doesn’t have to be a superstar) OFer with a revamped rotation I think would get the team back to playoff contention and at least make it interesting while simultaneously rebuilding the core through draft/development.
I’d be fine with that!
I just mentioned Noot and Gorman as the two I’d prefer to trade.
But you are correct....to get any pitcher(s) of quality you’ll likely have to move better players than those two.
As you suggested....Donovan and/or Burleson.
Bloom has decisions to make for sure.
I think there could still be somewhat of a market for Noot too just because he’s a metrics darling…or whatever that’s called. A few teams would probably still like to have him as a throw in as the finishing touch on a good trade.

I don’t mind waiting a few years for the WS-level rebuild but would like to see them scratch their way in the playoffs next couple of years just for the entertainment value.
I’m fine with being patient.
I’d rather have them do it right than rush and make knee jerk moves.
As we have seen....being a .500 team usually keeps you in the WC chase into September.
And yes....the time to deal Noot is now while he has value.
The Cards have some promising pitchers who all could debut next year or ST 2027.
They are overdue in that regard. Been a long time since Flaherty and Reyes were supposedly the future.
Hoping with the right moves we could get something better than a .500 team. I’m still not over being a spoiled Cardinal fan…I want to win now, and more later lol!
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Re: Arenado confession

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Carp4Cy wrote: 20 Sep 2025 22:58 pm
Cusecards wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:48 pm I concede that based on his age/salary/productivity it is probably best to deal Arenado.
But....and I know I’ll get roasted for this...in my heart I’d love to see:
Trade- Nootbaar & Gorman
C- Crooks/Pages/Pozo
1B- Contreras
2B- Wetherholt
SS- Winn
3B- Arenado
CF- Scott
Corner OF- Donovan/Burleson/Walker
DH- Herrera
Bench- Saggese and ?
How do we not get a new OF back in return for Noot and Gorman? Or trade for one otherwise?

How about someone like Bryan Reynolds?
Always wished we could land Reynolds. One of the players I’ve admired from afar. Although I used to say the same about Arenado. Got to trade for those type guys a little sooner.
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Re: Arenado confession

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Pura Vida wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:41 pm Despite not having superstar offensive output, having Arenado back at 3rd is a huge positive. He is top 3 all-time defensively @ 3rd! Hope he is a Cardinal next year!
lol
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Pura Vida wrote: 20 Sep 2025 20:41 pm Despite not having superstar offensive output, having Arenado back at 3rd is a huge positive. He is top 3 all-time defensively @ 3rd! Hope he is a Cardinal next year!
I agree he can help this team if deployed correctly. Really like Nado and Winn on the left side infield.
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