Redo the '08 draft (Top 5 pick!)

[Harry S Deals]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

[seattleblue]

I don't think this thread is going to go down the middle of the fairway

[rangergiff]

If your asking Norris trophy voters or fantasy managers how they would draft you would likely be taking Karlsson at the top. If your drafting a NHL Defenseman then for me Josi is the big mover. I think I would go in this order:
Doughty, Pietrangelo, Josi, Karlsson then Bogosian of the players you listed. I'm sure someone will point to Karlsson's point totals and Norris Trophies as an argument against my order. For me, I just can't get my head around the idea of giving the trophy for best defenseman to the highest point getter. It's time to add the Bobby Orr trophy to the highest scoring defenseman of the year. Sure, it's possible that a player may get both but more often than not it wouldn't be that way.

[TAFKAP]

For me, I just can't get my head around the idea of giving the trophy for best defenseman to the highest point getter. It's time to add the Bobby Orr trophy to the highest scoring defenseman of the year. Sure, it's possible that a player may get both but more often than not it wouldn't be that way.

Yes! 100%

[a smell of green grass]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I've never thought or said that great players, even elite, can't be found after TOP5.

What I have said...
1. The vast majority of HOF, elite players are found in the TOP5.
2. A good scouting dept can find great talent later in the draft sometimes.
3. Army has a miserable history of finding Line1 Level talent.

Summary:
For the Blues to get an elite HOF player, they will have to draft TOP5. Without that advantage, forget it.

[DawgDad]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I've never thought or said that great players, even elite, can't be found after TOP5.

What I have said...
1. The vast majority of HOF, elite players are found in the TOP5.
2. A good scouting dept can find great talent later in the draft sometimes.
3. Army has a miserable history of finding Line1 Level talent.

Summary:
For the Blues to get an elite HOF player, they will have to draft TOP5. Without that advantage, forget it.

3. With high probability the Blues will ice two of their own draft picks on the top line, Thomas and Snuggerud/Kyrou/Neighbours.

[SRV1990]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I've never thought or said that great players, even elite, can't be found after TOP5.

What I have said...
1. The vast majority of HOF, elite players are found in the TOP5.
2. A good scouting dept can find great talent later in the draft sometimes.
3. Army has a miserable history of finding Line1 Level talent.

Summary:
For the Blues to get an elite HOF player, they will have to draft TOP5. Without that advantage, forget it.

3. With high probability the Blues will ice two of their own draft picks on the top line, Thomas and Snuggerud/Kyrou/Neighbours.

Shhhh.... that destroys the idiot's narrative.

Imagine valuing where players are drafted over wins and getting into the playoffs. If I wasn't reading such stupidity I would never believe someone actually believes it.

[Aesa]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I've never thought or said that great players, even elite, can't be found after TOP5.

What I have said...
1. The vast majority of HOF, elite players are found in the TOP5.
2. A good scouting dept can find great talent later in the draft sometimes.
3. Army has a miserable history of finding Line1 Level talent.

Summary:
For the Blues to get an elite HOF player, they will have to draft TOP5. Without that advantage, forget it.

3. With high probability the Blues will ice two of their own draft picks on the top line, Thomas and Snuggerud/Kyrou/Neighbours.

Shhhh.... that destroys the idiot's narrative.

Imagine valuing where players are drafted over wins and getting into the playoffs. If I wasn't reading such stupidity I would never believe someone actually believes it.

He doesn't believe it. He's just trolling.

[Old_Goat]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I've never thought or said that great players, even elite, can't be found after TOP5.

What I have said...
1. The vast majority of HOF, elite players are found in the TOP5.
2. A good scouting dept can find great talent later in the draft sometimes.
3. Army has a miserable history of finding Line1 Level talent.

Summary:
For the Blues to get an elite HOF player, they will have to draft TOP5. Without that advantage, forget it.

What a bunch of disingenuous [nonsense]! The heck you have not. You cannot change what you have said hundreds of times.
Man I hope you have not fathered any children.

[TheJackBurton]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I would still draft Petro at #4.

2012 he was essentially robbed of his Norris.

Karlsson had the gaudy point total, but he was nowhere near the dman Petro was that year. Petro was absolutely dominant that season.

Karlsson, Carlson, and Josi however should absolutely be top 10 though.

[dhsux]

It's hard to believe you guys even read his posts.

[a smell of green grass]

It's hard to believe you guys even read his posts.

I learned on the farm that it is very smart for the Chickens to run away from the Fox. You are playing it smart.

For my part, I read every post.

[blues2112]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I would still draft Petro at #4.

2012 he was essentially robbed of his Norris.

Karlsson had the gaudy point total, but he was nowhere near the dman Petro was that year. Petro was absolutely dominant that season.

Karlsson, Carlson, and Josi however should absolutely be top 10 though.

Refresh my memory, but Petro was recovering from mononucleosis around that draft time?

Such an illness can adversely affect physical development at that age.

Regardless, Petro was as smooth as Housely as a skater, with size.

[a smell of green grass]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I've never thought or said that great players, even elite, can't be found after TOP5.

What I have said...
1. The vast majority of HOF, elite players are found in the TOP5.
2. A good scouting dept can find great talent later in the draft sometimes.
3. Army has a miserable history of finding Line1 Level talent.

Summary:
For the Blues to get an elite HOF player, they will have to draft TOP5. Without that advantage, forget it.

3. With high probability the Blues will ice two of their own draft picks on the top line, Thomas and Snuggerud/Kyrou/Neighbours.

Shhhh.... that destroys the idiot's narrative.

Imagine valuing where players are drafted over wins and getting into the playoffs. If I wasn't reading such stupidity I would never believe someone actually believes it.

He doesn't believe it. He's just trolling.

Could you guys post a little louder? A few have not seen my WIN yet.

[TheJackBurton]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

I would still draft Petro at #4.

2012 he was essentially robbed of his Norris.

Karlsson had the gaudy point total, but he was nowhere near the dman Petro was that year. Petro was absolutely dominant that season.

Karlsson, Carlson, and Josi however should absolutely be top 10 though.

Refresh my memory, but Petro was recovering from mononucleosis around that draft time?

Such an illness can adversely affect physical development at that age.

Regardless, Petro was as smooth as Housely as a skater, with size.

Yep had mono that summer which benefited us otherwise Atlanta likely takes him and we choose between Bogosian and Schenn

[Cahokanut]

I was just glancing at the '08 draft class which was pretty good for dmen. If you could re draft would you take

#15 Karlsson #2 in Points (by draft year)
#27 Carlson #4 in Points
#38 Josi #5 in Points

over AP (#4)??


Of course Doughty (#2) and Bogosian (#3) were not options. Just curious amid our constant barrage or "Top 5" non sense when in reality by draft class it often doesnt matter

First I wouldn't take defense with a 4.
But in this scenario I take the two-way guy Petro whose potential is high on both sides of the ice.

I think where, and wants needed, plays bigger then prospect skill. When it comes to early nhl development, that leads to lifelong skill.