Does anybody know why gorman has so many strikeouts?

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Does anybody know why gorman has so many strikeouts?

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And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
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Can’t resist the high fastball like I can’t resist a jelly donut
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Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He gets homer happy! He starts trying to pull everything. Pitchers recognize this and don’t give him anything that he can hit that way hard, but he tries to anyway. When he goes with the pitch and just hits what he’s given, he does pretty good. You’ll see him hit balls out to LCF, and hit line drives into the gaps. However, once he does this a few times, he starts fooling himself into thinking he can do that with any pitch and falls back into old habits. Nothing will ever change until he realizes this and Is ok being that type of hitter.
He wants to be a 40 homer guy so bad, I don’t think he’ll ever change. He’s simply too stubborn and believes he can do it his way!
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Hoosier59 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:36 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He gets homer happy! He starts trying to pull everything. Pitchers recognize this and don’t give him anything that he can hit that way hard, but he tries to anyway. When he goes with the pitch and just hits what he’s given, he does pretty good. You’ll see him hit balls out to LCF, and hit line drives into the gaps. However, once he does this a few times, he starts fooling himself into thinking he can do that with any pitch and falls back into old habits. Nothing will ever change until he realizes this and Is ok being that type of hitter.
He wants to be a 40 homer guy so bad, I don’t think he’ll ever change. He’s simply too stubborn and believes he can do it his way!
100% spot on!
They pitch him away...he steps in the bucket AND tries to pull.
When he goes the other way he has success.
It’s between the ears.
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Hoosier59 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:36 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He gets homer happy! He starts trying to pull everything. Pitchers recognize this and don’t give him anything that he can hit that way hard, but he tries to anyway. When he goes with the pitch and just hits what he’s given, he does pretty good. You’ll see him hit balls out to LCF, and hit line drives into the gaps. However, once he does this a few times, he starts fooling himself into thinking he can do that with any pitch and falls back into old habits. Nothing will ever change until he realizes this and Is ok being that type of hitter.
He wants to be a 40 homer guy so bad, I don’t think he’ll ever change. He’s simply too stubborn and believes he can do it his way!
He hasn’t even tried to change for any extended period of time, and it is going to cost him his MLB career.
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Cusecards wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:47 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:36 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He gets homer happy! He starts trying to pull everything. Pitchers recognize this and don’t give him anything that he can hit that way hard, but he tries to anyway. When he goes with the pitch and just hits what he’s given, he does pretty good. You’ll see him hit balls out to LCF, and hit line drives into the gaps. However, once he does this a few times, he starts fooling himself into thinking he can do that with any pitch and falls back into old habits. Nothing will ever change until he realizes this and Is ok being that type of hitter.
He wants to be a 40 homer guy so bad, I don’t think he’ll ever change. He’s simply too stubborn and believes he can do it his way!
100% spot on!
They pitch him away...he steps in the bucket AND tries to pull.
When he goes the other way he has success.
It’s between the ears.
Young players rely mostly on physical talent. At some point that strategy stops working. That’s when the best players LISTEN AND LEARN AND ADJUST. The rest get other careers.
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Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
Jesus...what stupid question and sentiment: "If the the kid can make contact could be a great hitter."

:roll:
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Gorman just might be too stubborn and too stupid to listen to advice.
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Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He’s not a good hitter he sucks then after a long period of sucking he starts adjusting gets hot the pitchers adjust then it takes him a long period of sucking before he finally adjusts again and it ends up being long periods of sucking with a short hot streak or two mixed in that leaves his numbers looking like trash. The coaches can tell him they are getting you out with fastballs up in the zone lay off of them and make them bring the pitches down but they can’t force him to do it they can’t bat for him. A lot of hitters just like him have failed a ton of power but can’t do the main thing a player needs to do and that’(poop) the ball. He’s not a unicorn like some have claimed there have been many just like him who failed in the big leagues because they aren’t good hitters and can’t make contact
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He wants to yank and pull and is too stubborn to change.

Also, he can't hit elevated heat, because his swing patch is so shallow, low and middle is his tiny honey-hole.

He never has adjusted his hands to get to that elevated pitch.

Donovan and Burleson are only hitters on team that will adjust bat path to get to pitches: heat, spin and off-speed.
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scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 21:25 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
Jesus...what stupid question and sentiment: "If the the kid can make contact could be a great hitter."

:roll:
If I could have hit a curve ball I'd have been a great hitter.
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BrockFloodMaris wrote: 18 Sep 2025 21:07 pm
Cusecards wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:47 pm
Hoosier59 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:36 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He gets homer happy! He starts trying to pull everything. Pitchers recognize this and don’t give him anything that he can hit that way hard, but he tries to anyway. When he goes with the pitch and just hits what he’s given, he does pretty good. You’ll see him hit balls out to LCF, and hit line drives into the gaps. However, once he does this a few times, he starts fooling himself into thinking he can do that with any pitch and falls back into old habits. Nothing will ever change until he realizes this and Is ok being that type of hitter.
He wants to be a 40 homer guy so bad, I don’t think he’ll ever change. He’s simply too stubborn and believes he can do it his way!
100% spot on!
They pitch him away...he steps in the bucket AND tries to pull.
When he goes the other way he has success.
It’s between the ears.
Young players rely mostly on physical talent. At some point that strategy stops working. That’s when the best players LISTEN AND LEARN AND ADJUST. The rest get other careers.
Not going to single out Gorman. You could include Walker, Scott, etc, and hitter struggling to establish consistency.
When I watch them struggle game after game I wonder?
Don’t they watch film?
We hear about “analytics” all the time.
Exactly WHAT are they analyzing???
Look.....I get that hitting a baseball that is moving 90+ MOH and breaking is very difficult.
But...when you watch the film and see the same mistakes game after game what are they thinking???
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Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
What a stupid post. If he could only hit a baseball he would be a great hitter. There are many guys that can swing a bat hard but don't make it to a good college because they don't make contact.
The guy has holes in his swing and is not a good hitter. MLB pitchers figure them out and then they are toast.
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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 18 Sep 2025 21:52 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 21:25 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
Jesus...what stupid question and sentiment: "If the the kid can make contact could be a great hitter."

:roll:
If I could have hit a curve ball I'd have been a great hitter.
:lol:
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BrummerStealsHome wrote: 18 Sep 2025 21:52 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 18 Sep 2025 21:25 pm
Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
Jesus...what stupid question and sentiment: "If the the kid can make contact could be a great hitter."

:roll:
If I could have hit a curve ball I'd have been a great hitter.
Why can't the Cards score runs. I mean if they could just get hits with runners in scoring positions, they'd be good
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Kentucky kid wrote: 18 Sep 2025 20:20 pm And why can't they help him ?Is it all his fault or do the coaching same need some blame.If the the kid can make make contact could be a great hitter.
He can't hit?
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