Let the Yutes play

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Re: Let the Yutes play

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Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
He and Snoot are the same age, and you consider Snoot a yute.

I'd trade both
I think Donny a bit older….but I’ve never played along with the extended Noot tryout….just playing along here with “playing Yutes” in 2025….How’d you like it. Get enough of Noot, Gorman, Walker…..
No sense getting rid of JW as he has a minor league option left. I ASSume KKorn does to...so I'm OK giving them runs in the minors. I'd start both at AA and force them to earn a reason to either progress up thru the system or get rid of
Gorman is 26+….both have shown no capacity to correct, change, improve their swings. They’ve shown they can handle AA pitching …its MLB pitchers they can’t hit….
Again, if they have options, I'm trying again...but starting in the minors.
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
He and Snoot are the same age, and you consider Snoot a yute.

I'd trade both
I think Donny a bit older….but I’ve never played along with the extended Noot tryout….just playing along here with “playing Yutes” in 2025….How’d you like it. Get enough of Noot, Gorman, Walker…..
No sense getting rid of JW as he has a minor league option left. I ASSume KKorn does to...so I'm OK giving them runs in the minors. I'd start both at AA and force them to earn a reason to either progress up thru the system or get rid of
Gorman is 26+….both have shown no capacity to correct, change, improve their swings. They’ve shown they can handle AA pitching …its MLB pitchers they can’t hit….
Again, if they have options, I'm trying again...but starting in the minors.
As I mentioned earlier they closed Gormans stance this season and he lost All his power and still struck out too much…..and he went back to open stance and pulling off the ball with every now and then he gets ahold of one. ANY “slugging” minor leaguer could come to MLB, hit .200 and launch 14HR through an entire season……theres nothing salvageable with these 2.
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
I don’t know the nicknames. Are you referring to Gorman?
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:10 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
He and Snoot are the same age, and you consider Snoot a yute.

I'd trade both
I think Donny a bit older….but I’ve never played along with the extended Noot tryout….just playing along here with “playing Yutes” in 2025….How’d you like it. Get enough of Noot, Gorman, Walker…..
No sense getting rid of JW as he has a minor league option left. I ASSume KKorn does to...so I'm OK giving them runs in the minors. I'd start both at AA and force them to earn a reason to either progress up thru the system or get rid of
Gorman is 26+….both have shown no capacity to correct, change, improve their swings. They’ve shown they can handle AA pitching …its MLB pitchers they can’t hit….
Again, if they have options, I'm trying again...but starting in the minors.
As I mentioned earlier they closed Gormans stance this season and he lost All his power and still struck out too much…..and he went back to open stance and pulling off the ball with every now and then he gets ahold of one. ANY “slugging” minor leaguer could come to MLB, hit .200 and launch 14HR through an entire season……theres nothing salvageable with these 2.
Again, if he has options, costs nothing. You're not getting anything for someone as bad as you say he is anyway. Why the debate?

I agree, both are [shirt], but cost nothing in the minors and perhaps things change. If not...no harm, no foul.
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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PadsFS07 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:12 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
I don’t know the nicknames. Are you referring to Gorman?
Hurdy is Donovan
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:13 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:10 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
He and Snoot are the same age, and you consider Snoot a yute.

I'd trade both
I think Donny a bit older….but I’ve never played along with the extended Noot tryout….just playing along here with “playing Yutes” in 2025….How’d you like it. Get enough of Noot, Gorman, Walker…..
No sense getting rid of JW as he has a minor league option left. I ASSume KKorn does to...so I'm OK giving them runs in the minors. I'd start both at AA and force them to earn a reason to either progress up thru the system or get rid of
Gorman is 26+….both have shown no capacity to correct, change, improve their swings. They’ve shown they can handle AA pitching …its MLB pitchers they can’t hit….
Again, if they have options, I'm trying again...but starting in the minors.
As I mentioned earlier they closed Gormans stance this season and he lost All his power and still struck out too much…..and he went back to open stance and pulling off the ball with every now and then he gets ahold of one. ANY “slugging” minor leaguer could come to MLB, hit .200 and launch 14HR through an entire season……theres nothing salvageable with these 2.
Again, if he has options, costs nothing. You're not getting anything for someone as bad as you say he is anyway. Why the debate?

I agree, both are [shirt], but cost nothing in the minors and perhaps things change. If not...no harm, no foul.
This org needs to establish a policy of dumping their trash……this incessant process of letting low production “hopes” stick around and potentially block a real talent is dysfunctional
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:00 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:20 pm Burly and Herrera have definitely earned spots.

The rest...? I dunno.

I'd definitely trade Noot. Burleson has overtaken him, and it's not close. Sure, Lars probably has the most talent, but he hasn't put it together here. Time honored tradition, I'm afraid.

Pages can stay. I think I like him as a back-up catcher, though. I think it would benefit his bat more, too. Let Crooks run with it next year.

I don't mind Scott. He becomes less of a problem if bats elsewhere can finally wake up. Then you can be more patient with him, while utilizing his wheels and letting him catch just about everything in CF.

Gorman and Walker...I just don't know yet. I think Jordan needs to go to Memphis next year. And not come back up until he's absolutely torching AAA. Gorman...yeah. Same ol' story. He can carry a team one week, and sink it the next.
Sounds like you want to see another year of this? When we’re back in same spot in ‘26 with another year wasted what is achieved? These guys are who they are. Somehow a false narrative has taken hold that “if only more time in majors for a player with little ML talent will propel him to be something he’s not”? This never used to be the process…..I suppose if FO is incompetent and has no ability to sort this talent but again it shouldn’t be like this
Definitely not what I said. I said that Pages should be the backup catcher, that Noot should be gone, and Crooks should be starting. I also said that Walker should be in AAA until he dominates that level, and (at best) only kicking the can down the road on Gorman.

Because, let's be real, this is probably the best case scenario of what happens. I would be shocked if DeWitt opened up the vaults for Bloom to spend REAL money this offseason to fill holes.
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Re: Let the Yutes play

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Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:22 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:13 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:10 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 18:00 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:49 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 17:09 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:59 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:13 pm
scoutyjones2 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:18 pm Would you keep Hurdy Gurdy?
I don’t consider him a Yute…..he’s established himself. If he goes then you need at least as good or better to replace. At what point does keeping talent factor in??
He and Snoot are the same age, and you consider Snoot a yute.

I'd trade both
I think Donny a bit older….but I’ve never played along with the extended Noot tryout….just playing along here with “playing Yutes” in 2025….How’d you like it. Get enough of Noot, Gorman, Walker…..
No sense getting rid of JW as he has a minor league option left. I ASSume KKorn does to...so I'm OK giving them runs in the minors. I'd start both at AA and force them to earn a reason to either progress up thru the system or get rid of
Gorman is 26+….both have shown no capacity to correct, change, improve their swings. They’ve shown they can handle AA pitching …its MLB pitchers they can’t hit….
Again, if they have options, I'm trying again...but starting in the minors.
As I mentioned earlier they closed Gormans stance this season and he lost All his power and still struck out too much…..and he went back to open stance and pulling off the ball with every now and then he gets ahold of one. ANY “slugging” minor leaguer could come to MLB, hit .200 and launch 14HR through an entire season……theres nothing salvageable with these 2.
Again, if he has options, costs nothing. You're not getting anything for someone as bad as you say he is anyway. Why the debate?

I agree, both are [shirt], but cost nothing in the minors and perhaps things change. If not...no harm, no foul.
This org needs to establish a policy of dumping their trash……this incessant process of letting low production “hopes” stick around and potentially block a real talent is dysfunctional
Who are they blocking?

They are considered talent too.
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