No one saw the Mets 14-27 collapse coming and if they say they did they are lying. It would have been dumb to keep maton helsley and matz and it they kept helsley instead of trading him to the Mets the Mets would be 4-5 games better and the cardinals would be worse because oli would keep running him out thereScotchMIrish wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 15:32 pmA .500 team throwing in the towel with 2 months left in the season. Mr Bloom brings that East coast mentality to St Louis. Perhaps he will impress in the off season but at the moment show me.Stlcardsblues wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:57 amWas the July 31 decision really a bad one? What does the team gain winning 83 games and missing the playoffs then losing the pitchers to free agency for little to nothing?ScotchMIrish wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:12 am The franchise guaranteed a losing season on July 31.
Better get some pitching between now and April 2026.
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76-86 sounds about right
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Lol..BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 15:35 pmNone of that is relavent to the present. As of 9/16/25, finishing the season with a flourish to achieve .500 would provide a psychological high to the organization, going into the offseason.Imperial Capitalist wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 14:38 pmThey played above their station in May, going 19-8. It left them statistically tied for the 2nd WC spot. And they went from 8 above .500 on 5/31 to 5 below it as of last night.BrummerStealsHome wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:31 amIt would be great to see the Cardinals make a successful run at .500. It would send the club into the offseason on a high, and an added air of confidence going into ST. Could someone kidnap Fernandez please?ramfandan wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:05 am With 73-78 record, the Cardinals would need an unbelievable finish to reach .500 . The odds of that aren't much better than winning the Powerball .
More laughable might be ending with a winning season of 82-80 , that takes a 9-2 .
More likely MAY (noticed MAY in caps) be a 4-7 finish to end at 77- 85 .
Last year's record in 2024 was 83-79
Two years ago Oli Marmol's team was 71-91
It appears for the last three years the cumulative W-L will be a losing record .
Chaim Bloom has a tough task to turn the franchise around.
They went 15-11 last September, posting their best winning % of the season, by month, to finish 4 games above .500. And they're going to have a worse record in 2025.
I don't see the "high" at work in any of this.
None of it's relevant because it doesn't square with your present-day [nonsense].
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Arenado was 30 when we got him. Goldy was 31. Neither was in his prime if you're measuring it narrowly (26-29). Even if you stretch it (say 25-31) then both players were at the tail of their primes.sikeston bulldog2 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:27 amGood point. When you aquire two arguable HoF corners, still in prime, you’d expect more.casey1024 wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 08:23 am I honestly thought this was where we would be........I had no illusions that this team was good enough to do much better than .500. I'm okay with where the rebuild is at. If Goldy and Arenado had not fell off the cliff so, so fast......we could have been in a decent place the past 2 years. Sometimes even the best of plans do not work. I thought when we acquired those 2, we would go deep in the playoffs. But.....when you make those kind of investments....and they don't work out....you land where we are. It's called life....it happens.
The Cardinals got more than they should have expected from Goldy, and about what was expected from Arenado.
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THIS right here is the correct philosophy. As I’ve said on here before, this franchise needs a deep cleansing Triple H Enema. What’s a Triple H Enema? Hot, high, and helluva lot.blackinkbiz wrote: ↑16 Sep 2025 10:46 am Hopefully, they go 0-11.
Hopefully, that increases their draft position.
And most hopefully, the poor finish combined with the fact we have fewer answers now due to the poor handling of "runway" distribution than we did at the start of the season, this will convince Bloom that Oli is simply not the man for this job and send him walking in October.
#MoMustGo
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