Is Jordan Walker the worst player in MLB?

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Re: Is Jordan Walker the worst player in MLB?

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Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
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JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
If the drive isn’t there this is what you get
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Re: Is Jordan Walker the worst player in MLB?

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Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 12:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
If the drive isn’t there this is what you get
yup, sometimes the most gifted athletes lack the ability/motivation to adjust and improve
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How about Will Benson of the Reds? He's not a whole lot better and with his build he looks like he should be a superstar.
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ronnie76 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:18 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Sep 2025 13:22 pm Orioles fans might want a word with you about Coby Mayo. Like Walker he is a big guy (6'4" 230 lb), top 10 MLB prospect supposed to be a slugger. He has hit .193 so far this year with a .622 OPS. Mayo has struck out 75 times in 249 plate appearances so far. Last season in 17 games he hit (if you can call it that) .098 with a .293 OPS. He's giving Walker a run for his money as the worst player in MLB. He is a righty bat and plays 1B/3B. Curiosity question- would you trade Walker for Mayo?
Yes, absolutely.
He's giving Walker a run for his money as the worst player in MLB. He is a righty bat and plays 1B/3B. Curiosity question- would you trade Walker for Mayo?

Hellman's or Duke?
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dugoutrex wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 12:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
If the drive isn’t there this is what you get
yup, sometimes the most gifted athletes lack the ability/motivation to adjust and improve
I mean when you’re hitting .200 and your ML hitting coach goes public that you don’t take guidance, instruction, or put in the work…… 8O
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dugoutrex wrote: 16 Sep 2025 13:19 pm
Goldfan wrote: 16 Sep 2025 12:48 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
If the drive isn’t there this is what you get
yup, sometimes the most gifted athletes lack the ability/motivation to adjust and improve
That’s because every thing came so easily to them based on their physical gifts they never had to work hard to succeed early on but to be successful at the ML you have to work hard continually to be good and it’s not something that is ingrained in them. It’s why a lot of 5 tool players wash out whereas guys like Donovan who don’t have much speed or power succeed because they work hard to get the most of
Their abilities. The players who are superstars have the work ethic and the physical abilities
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JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
Not only has he not improved, he's getting worse by the day. His last AB looked like a textbook Walker AB, until strike 3. If I'm not mistaken strike 1 was a called strike, 2 was the notorious down and away slider, and 3 he was obviously guessing (something he seems to do ALL THE TIME) and it was a fastball that got away and went up and in, which, naturally, Jordan swung at, but he also had to get out of the way and nearly fell to the ground spinning like a fool.

Man, it was ugly. He was actually pulled for a defensive replacement after that AB. Think that was 2 nights ago and haven't seen him since then.

I guess you just keep trotting him out there the last 11 games, although at this point things could go from lack of confidence to soul-crushing. He wasn't smiling much on the bench last night. In fact, he seemed to be frowning every shot I saw him in.
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blackinkbiz wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
Not only has he not improved, he's getting worse by the day. His last AB looked like a textbook Walker AB, until strike 3. If I'm not mistaken strike 1 was a called strike, 2 was the notorious down and away slider, and 3 he was obviously guessing (something he seems to do ALL THE TIME) and it was a fastball that got away and went up and in, which, naturally, Jordan swung at, but he also had to get out of the way and nearly fell to the ground spinning like a fool.

Man, it was ugly. He was actually pulled for a defensive replacement after that AB. Think that was 2 nights ago and haven't seen him since then.

I guess you just keep trotting him out there the last 11 games, although at this point things could go from lack of confidence to soul-crushing. He wasn't smiling much on the bench last night. In fact, he seemed to be frowning every shot I saw him in.
He has to be disillusioned at this point. And this organization seems to not have a way to improve him. Im not putting all the blame on the organization. But man, they sure haven't helped him. May be best for a change in scenery.
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Re: Is Jordan Walker the worst player in MLB?

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JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:41 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
Not only has he not improved, he's getting worse by the day. His last AB looked like a textbook Walker AB, until strike 3. If I'm not mistaken strike 1 was a called strike, 2 was the notorious down and away slider, and 3 he was obviously guessing (something he seems to do ALL THE TIME) and it was a fastball that got away and went up and in, which, naturally, Jordan swung at, but he also had to get out of the way and nearly fell to the ground spinning like a fool.

Man, it was ugly. He was actually pulled for a defensive replacement after that AB. Think that was 2 nights ago and haven't seen him since then.

I guess you just keep trotting him out there the last 11 games, although at this point things could go from lack of confidence to soul-crushing. He wasn't smiling much on the bench last night. In fact, he seemed to be frowning every shot I saw him in.
He has to be disillusioned at this point. And this organization seems to not have a way to improve him. Im not putting all the blame on the organization. But man, they sure haven't helped him. May be best for a change in scenery.
Some players can’t be improved even with great coaching especially if it’s true what brant brown and oli said and he doesn’t want to put in the work to improve
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butsir01 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 14:50 pm
ronnie76 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:18 am
Talkin' Baseball wrote: 15 Sep 2025 13:22 pm Orioles fans might want a word with you about Coby Mayo. Like Walker he is a big guy (6'4" 230 lb), top 10 MLB prospect supposed to be a slugger. He has hit .193 so far this year with a .622 OPS. Mayo has struck out 75 times in 249 plate appearances so far. Last season in 17 games he hit (if you can call it that) .098 with a .293 OPS. He's giving Walker a run for his money as the worst player in MLB. He is a righty bat and plays 1B/3B. Curiosity question- would you trade Walker for Mayo?
Yes, absolutely.
He's giving Walker a run for his money as the worst player in MLB. He is a righty bat and plays 1B/3B. Curiosity question- would you trade Walker for Mayo?

Hellman's or Duke?
Yeah he's been terrible as well. At this point I think you just try to trade for equal potential and hope a different system kick starts something in the player. Either way, I wouldn't bet much on either of them becoming above league average players at this point.
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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:45 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:41 pm
blackinkbiz wrote: 16 Sep 2025 15:34 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 16 Sep 2025 11:52 am
Barrys_head wrote: 16 Sep 2025 08:47 am Hindsight is 20/20, but they probably should have put Walker at 1st base when he first came up and left him there. He could have focused on his hitting instead of learning the outfield.
I disagree. A good defender at 1b is valuable. Look at the comparison of Jose Martinez vs Goldschmidt. Im not sure Walker would be any better than Martinez. After 3 seasons, a MLB player should be able to play average defense in the OF. This guy is still bad. I dont get it. Hes not improved any part of his game.
Not only has he not improved, he's getting worse by the day. His last AB looked like a textbook Walker AB, until strike 3. If I'm not mistaken strike 1 was a called strike, 2 was the notorious down and away slider, and 3 he was obviously guessing (something he seems to do ALL THE TIME) and it was a fastball that got away and went up and in, which, naturally, Jordan swung at, but he also had to get out of the way and nearly fell to the ground spinning like a fool.

Man, it was ugly. He was actually pulled for a defensive replacement after that AB. Think that was 2 nights ago and haven't seen him since then.

I guess you just keep trotting him out there the last 11 games, although at this point things could go from lack of confidence to soul-crushing. He wasn't smiling much on the bench last night. In fact, he seemed to be frowning every shot I saw him in.
He has to be disillusioned at this point. And this organization seems to not have a way to improve him. Im not putting all the blame on the organization. But man, they sure haven't helped him. May be best for a change in scenery.
Some players can’t be improved even with great coaching especially if it’s true what brant brown and oli said and he doesn’t want to put in the work to improve
I agree. So whether it is a coaching issue or a player issue, I think a change of scenery is for the best. Maybe another organization can unlock his potential. Or maybe he needs the wake up call.
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WLTFE wrote: 16 Sep 2025 06:38 am
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Sep 2025 22:25 pm
Rojo Johnson wrote: 15 Sep 2025 21:55 pm
JuanAgosto wrote: 15 Sep 2025 19:32 pm How was he the #1 rated prospect?
Since Moe has such a wonderful family, they were given the opportunity to rate the MLB prospects and, wouldn’t you know it, they all agreed that Mr. Walker was the #1 rated prospect. If you really think about it, why not?
Hahahaha. "Mo has a wonderful family" may have been the funniest post in the history of CT. Hilarious that anyone would mention that as an argument.
It may be but we've seen 100s of post arguing against ANYONE who has a negative comment about Mo-ran....and 99% by the same person...that dedication is mind numbing.
99% the same person?
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