CT Fantasy Baseball - Interested?

[Quincy Varnish]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

[imadangman]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

Hey man, that's pretty cool.

[HorseTrader]

Last 3 or 4 years I played in Memphis, we did an auction keeper league. It was a fun. I don't remember the buy in but winner usually got around $250 plus we paid 2nd and 3rd places. There was a dollar charge per trade and waiver pickup. Waivers were strictly by reverse standings.

We had always had a straight draft with I think 3 keepers. You could only hold a player for either 2 or 3 years. When we went to the draft say you paid $20 Judge (right I know not happening) this year, next you could keep him for $25, the next year $35 and a 4th year jumped him to $55, With a $260 budge players got to expensive as time went on. We didn't have an NA or IL spot but I believe had a couple of open places that you park an injured player or minor league guy.

23 Active players per team, we played NL only since we had 10 teams. You could put together some good teams. I had Vince Coleman, Barry Bonds, WIll Clark and Matt Williams for a couple of years. Had to trade Bonds off, then he got traded another time or two that year and I got him. I could get the offense. DId fine in Win and Ks but lord my ERA and WHIP would make Oli cry. We didn't use OPS or QS. Not sure either was even used much back in the 90s.

I won the league once and finished 2 and 3rd probably half the years I played.

Quincy, you will love this, our Commish did all the numbers with his computer the first year or so.

[Quincy Varnish]

Last 3 or 4 years I played in Memphis, we did an auction keeper league. It was a fun. I don't remember the buy in but winner usually got around $250 plus we paid 2nd and 3rd places. There was a dollar charge per trade and waiver pickup. Waivers were strictly by reverse standings.

We had always had a straight draft with I think 3 keepers. You could only hold a player for either 2 or 3 years. When we went to the draft say you paid $20 Judge (right I know not happening) this year, next you could keep him for $25, the next year $35 and a 4th year jumped him to $55, With a $260 budge players got to expensive as time went on. We didn't have an NA or IL spot but I believe had a couple of open places that you park an injured player or minor league guy.

23 Active players per team, we played NL only since we had 10 teams. You could put together some good teams. I had Vince Coleman, Barry Bonds, WIll Clark and Matt Williams for a couple of years. Had to trade Bonds off, then he got traded another time or two that year and I got him. I could get the offense. DId fine in Win and Ks but lord my ERA and WHIP would make Oli cry. We didn't use OPS or QS. Not sure either was even used much back in the 90s.

I won the league once and finished 2 and 3rd probably half the years I played.

Quincy, you will love this, our Commish did all the numbers with his computer the first year or so.

Yeah that’s funny. I didn’t really get into fantasy until it was available on the internet… but it was still (donkey) backwards. I was in a Sporting News league where you could make transactions either online, or via a touchtone phone. Their automated system was a little like movie phone, but the guy they used to make the recordings did not know how to pronounce most of the players names.

[Quincy Varnish]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

Hey man, that's pretty cool.

I’m thinking we could have a buy in of $5-10 and not lose anyone because of it.

It concerns me that it could cause people to veto trades for competitive reasons, rather than fairness. I’ve been in a few leagues that started vetoing every trade, and it’s miserable.

[imadangman]

I feel like the justifications you make are off base a little bit. For instance, at one point you said FP’s suggestions are trash, but then you used that same site to try to justify a trade.

I’m sorry about your feelings. FP is trash in many ways, but their projections can be useful if they’re based on three year averages. There are distinctions one must independently make in this game - e.g. if it’s a good idea to roster useless players with names you recognize (Patrick Corbin, Giancarlo Stanton). FP would be helpful to those who need to shed players from their roster that offer little value (Jake Cronenworth, Addison Barger).

Where FP and all projections fail is in evaluating young players, or identifying players with emerging value - namely those who have inherited closers’ roles, or are on the verge of doing so. I think you’ll find that my position on this has been very consistent, if the distinctions are recognized.

Come on man, don’t do the feelings thing. Just expressing an opinion, which you seemed to have feelings about too. I think I made some valid points, but that just me of course.

You’re the one that mentioned feelings. Your remark suggested that my trades are damaging to other teams. It’s basically the same tune sdaltons was singing last year, as he wallowed in the lower standings. I found your remark surprising, particularly because the trades we’ve made this year have been to your benefit.

Sure, but that’s just an expression. Clearly you have feelings too right? You seem offended.

The trades have benefitted you too, so don’t act like you were doing me a favor.

I was honestly just having some fun. I don’t think you are trying to rip people off, but your hard-head negotiating and persistence can be a little much. I think in every trade we’ve made, you’ve gotten who you wanted from the get go. For the deal to benefit me, often times I have had to go back and forth with you. That’s all I’m saying. Don’t like my opinion, fair enough.

The FP thing, I guess, but that isn’t context your provided before.

Well it’s a negotiation… you’ve described how most negotiations transpire. Back and forth.

There hasn’t been a back-and-forth w/ Imadangman. If there had been, he might have a closer or two and be in first instead of fourth. He’s rejected everything without counteroffers.

I’m not offended.

I kept my strong suits.

Yep, and it mostly worked… but you can’t punt a category and expect to win.

But can I expect as of this morning to be ahead of YOU

[Quincy Varnish]

Yep, and it mostly worked… but you can’t punt a category and expect to win.

But can I expect as of this morning to be ahead of YOU

It’s a tight cluster behind Matt…

As of right now -

Jeffy - 119
Me - 118.5
Noobs - 118
You - 115

It may only be a race for 2nd & 3rd w/ Matt at 129.5.

[mattmitchl44]

My SPs get fantastically little run support.

Sale gave up 3 runs in 5 innings, but Atlanta scores only 2 runs all game.
T. Wells gave up only 1 run in 6 2/3 innings, but Baltimore doesn't score until the 8th inning so he gets a no decision.
Abbott has to give up only 1 run in 8 innings so that Cincinnati can finally score 2 in the top of the 8th for him.
Seymour has given up 2 runs through 5 1/3 innings so far, but Tampa hasn't scored.

At least Toronto has staked Gausman to a 3-0 lead so far.

[mattmitchl44]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

Hey man, that's pretty cool.

I’m thinking we could have a buy in of $5-10 and not lose anyone because of it.

It concerns me that it could cause people to veto trades for competitive reasons, rather than fairness. I’ve been in a few leagues that started vetoing every trade, and it’s miserable.

You could make your buy in a sliding scale:

(125 - the pts. your team scored last year) x (some scaling factor) = $ you have to pay this year

That might also motivate people to try to finish with 80 or 90 pts. instead of just bagging it and scoring 50.

[imadangman]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

Hey man, that's pretty cool.

I’m thinking we could have a buy in of $5-10 and not lose anyone because of it.

It concerns me that it could cause people to veto trades for competitive reasons, rather than fairness. I’ve been in a few leagues that started vetoing every trade, and it’s miserable.

You could make your buy in a sliding scale:

(125 - the pts. your team scored last year) x (some scaling factor) = $ you have to pay this year

That might also motivate people to try to finish with 80 or 90 pts. instead of just bagging it and scoring 50.

Maybe we can find some way to organize for the winner to have a dinner with Jim Bowden

[An Old Friend]

Yep, and it mostly worked… but you can’t punt a category and expect to win.

But can I expect as of this morning to be ahead of YOU

It’s a tight cluster behind Matt…

As of right now -

Jeffy - 119
Me - 118.5
Noobs - 118
You - 115

It may only be a race for 2nd & 3rd w/ Matt at 129.5.

Wasn’t the winning score last year in the 140’s?

[Quincy Varnish]

Yep, and it mostly worked… but you can’t punt a category and expect to win.

But can I expect as of this morning to be ahead of YOU

It’s a tight cluster behind Matt…

As of right now -

Jeffy - 119
Me - 118.5
Noobs - 118
You - 115

It may only be a race for 2nd & 3rd w/ Matt at 129.5.

Wasn’t the winning score last year in the 140’s?

Whatashame - 163.0

You finished with 141.5

[mattmitchl44]

Yep, and it mostly worked… but you can’t punt a category and expect to win.

But can I expect as of this morning to be ahead of YOU

It’s a tight cluster behind Matt…

As of right now -

Jeffy - 119
Me - 118.5
Noobs - 118
You - 115

It may only be a race for 2nd & 3rd w/ Matt at 129.5.

Wasn’t the winning score last year in the 140’s?

Whatashame - 163.0

You finished with 141.5

The scores do seem more balanced this year.

[HorseTrader]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

Hey man, that's pretty cool.

I’m thinking we could have a buy in of $5-10 and not lose anyone because of it.

It concerns me that it could cause people to veto trades for competitive reasons, rather than fairness. I’ve been in a few leagues that started vetoing every trade, and it’s miserable.

You could make your buy in a sliding scale:

(125 - the pts. your team scored last year) x (some scaling factor) = $ you have to pay this year

That might also motivate people to try to finish with 80 or 90 pts. instead of just bagging it and scoring 50.

If you were talking about a $100 buy in that might work but it's a $10 buy in, who cares.

This will sound crazy and I think you'd have to be looking at $50+ buy in for it to even help. 1st gets 40% of the pot. The remaining 60%, gets divided. 5% to the winner of each category. It's not a lot, with $50 buy in and 15 teams, total pot would be $750. So 1st would get $300, each catergory would get $37.50. Now way this league goes through waivers and trades, if you charged $1 per waiver and trade, you'd probably double the pot. Crazy, Right?

That shot at $37.50 in category might keep someone trying.

[mattmitchl44]

If you want to keep people involved I think you have to give them something to play for.

For example, you could award the league champion an additional 5th round pick in next season's draft, the runner up gets an additional 6th round pick, etc.

I don't know if the Yahoo draft would allow QV as Commish to pause it, let someone message their extra pick, let QV manually add that player to their roster, and then restart the draft.

Since everyone makes an extra pick at some point you just end up eliminating the last round of the draft.

I don’t think Yahoo has the mechanics to do that in a live draft. If it does, I’d rather someone else run the draft. Maybe it could be done offline, but that complicates the process considerably and it can drag on for days.

I’ve considered making it a money league next year w/ a very small buy in. That would keep people active longer…

Alternatively you could perhaps make it a one keeper league where the prior year's champion can keep any player who isn't in the top 75 of overall players, the runner-up could keep any one player who isn't in the top 90, third place keeps any one player not in the top 105, etc.

Then you would basically settle it before the draft starts.

If you think you are going to make it money league and have people Venmo you, I don't Venmo.

Yahoo has a system that would not involve me or Venmo. They take a small percentage of the pool and distribute the payoffs.

Hey man, that's pretty cool.

I’m thinking we could have a buy in of $5-10 and not lose anyone because of it.

It concerns me that it could cause people to veto trades for competitive reasons, rather than fairness. I’ve been in a few leagues that started vetoing every trade, and it’s miserable.

You could make your buy in a sliding scale:

(125 - the pts. your team scored last year) x (some scaling factor) = $ you have to pay this year

That might also motivate people to try to finish with 80 or 90 pts. instead of just bagging it and scoring 50.

If you were talking about a $100 buy in that might work but it's a $10 buy in, who cares.

Agreed.

[HorseTrader]

So I just did a quick count of waiver pick up and trades. There were 50 trades (I'm surprised, thought there were more) course trade takes two teams so 50 counts as 100. There were I think 1250 (more or less) waiver pickups. You could charge a $1 a waiver move and $1 to each team on a trade and end up with a pool of $1300++

At 40% to 1st it would be worth $520, 5% per category would mean each was worth $65. With zero buy in I could see guys like trying to get the top in AVG and keep it in OPS. Matt based on those if it ended today you'd be looking at $650. Anyway just crazy thought. Take my mind off of the crazy stuff out west. Like him or not Kirk had a young family and was willing to stand for what he believed.