Binnington casualty of not making playoffs?

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Re: Binnington casualty of not making playoffs?

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netboy65 wrote: 07 Sep 2025 13:48 pm
a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Sep 2025 13:43 pm Anyone not convinced that Army doesn't want to select anywhere near the top of the draft....

Just study closely what happened in 2023. The highest pick that the Blues got following that disaster was 10. And that is the highest pick that Army has ever gotten with the Blues.

So whenever you think about trading away a player...thinking that we will get a high draft pick, consider what we got in 2023. Face reality. Army doesn't want a pick in the TOP10. He doesn't want the scrutiny that comes with it.
So in 2023, we traded our guys to teams making a playoff push at the deadline so did you really expect them to have a top pick to give us? The teams that had the top picks, are they giving them away for a rental?
An agenda is one thing, but having zero logic is just dumb.
I hope for his sake, he is just another glorified P-D intern posting this idiocy to generate clicks. Otherwise…….
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has anyone ever rooted for a team to fail as hard as goblin goo has? I've never seen a poster actively root on a team to do everything it can to fail as much as goo boy.

i wonder how many jerseys it bought. closet must be full of them
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I can't believe you guys fell for the "rumor" line.
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The Blues as constructed should easily make the playoffs. Like all teams health will play a significant factor into that yes.
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DawgDad wrote: 07 Sep 2025 15:38 pm I can't believe you guys fell for the "rumor" line.
This poster has an insatiable need for attention.

There's very few here who run with this need....he's one of them.
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Re: Binnington casualty of not making playoffs?

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It's certainly possible that the Blues could miss the playoffs this year, but it is highly unlikely that they will be very far out of a playoff spot at the trade deadline. Hard to imagine them being more than about 4 points out of a spot at that point.
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Re: Binnington casualty of not making playoffs?

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a smell of green grass wrote: 07 Sep 2025 07:49 am Rumor has it...that Binnnington will be traded if Blues miss playoffs
https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2025/09/n ... trade.html

Do you suspect that Blues may miss the playoffs?
I suspect that there is a good chance of this, at least 50%. The other teams in our division are improving rapidly, and the Blues are not keeping up.

Do you believe that they will trade Binnington if they miss the playoffs?
Making the playoffs make no difference to what happens with Binnington, at least not directly. The Stanley Cup for the Blues is making the extra cash that the playoffs bring. If Binnington contributes to that goal, he is IN. If Binnington hurts that goal, he may be OUT. He could probably falter 1.5+ years before Army would trade him away.

If I were GM...
I would only trade Binnington if I could get a TOP10 draft pick for him, and we were hovering at .500 in February. The Blues won't be competing for a Cup again in many years, but at least Binnington is a solid name for a jersey.
Problem is that the teams likely to trade for Binnington to help push them over the edge to contender or Cup won't yield a top 10 pick. Likely not even a top 15 pick.

As to trading him, yes in could be considered but Hofer would need to show continued growth and the trade whatever it is would need to be very advantageous to the Blues: Good C prospect or good RD prospect or high draft pick.
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I don’t expect the team to be out of the playoff picture and selling at the deadline, but if they are then the market for Binnington, Schenn, and Faulk should definitely be explored. As others have stated, you won’t be able to get a high pick for any of them though because those teams won’t be buying.
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The Average Gatsby wrote: 08 Sep 2025 09:51 am I don’t expect the team to be out of the playoff picture and selling at the deadline, but if they are then the market for Binnington, Schenn, and Faulk should definitely be explored. As others have stated, you won’t be able to get a high pick for any of them though because those teams won’t be buying.
A study is needed on how teams acquire TOP5 picks from other teams. Many TOP teams have 5 or 6 TOP5 picks on their roster. How did they pull that off?

Meanwhile, The Blues have only 1, an old one (Schenn). Further, here in St Louis, we can't
- draft one of our own
- acquire one by dumping ROR, Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, etc, etc etc.
- acquire one by trading Binnington

Poor old St Louis. The rat that can find no path to TOP5 talent under the Army tent.
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a smell of green grass wrote: 08 Sep 2025 16:20 pm
The Average Gatsby wrote: 08 Sep 2025 09:51 am I don’t expect the team to be out of the playoff picture and selling at the deadline, but if they are then the market for Binnington, Schenn, and Faulk should definitely be explored. As others have stated, you won’t be able to get a high pick for any of them though because those teams won’t be buying.
A study is needed on how teams acquire TOP5 picks from other teams. Many TOP teams have 5 or 6 TOP5 picks on their roster. How did they pull that off?

Meanwhile, The Blues have only 1, an old one (Schenn). Further, here in St Louis, we can't
- draft one of our own
- acquire one by dumping ROR, Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, etc, etc etc.
- acquire one by trading Binnington

Poor old St Louis. The rat that can find no path to TOP5 talent under the Army tent.
A: Find a trading partner like Philadelphia. Trade them two (late) 1st round picks and a mediocre center (Pius Suter might be overpayment). In the Blues position might be able to substitute a partially developed prospect for a 1st round pick.

The GM needs to be patient, and the trade needs to fill a critical need. Blues might be a year or two away from another Schenn style trade. They might not need a center.
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