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rezero wrote: 21 Aug 2025 21:59 pm
3dender wrote: 21 Aug 2025 07:22 am
rezero wrote: 20 Aug 2025 20:37 pmLOTR
LMAO

no
Have you read the books? They are not an easy read at all. Very good descriptive writing, but just a hard sentence structure and syntax. Not like Shakespeare hard, but not modern dialect.
Yes, I've read them 4 or 5 times, starting when I was about 12.

Jackson did a decent job with it, but he had trouble with the tone and casting.

That trilogy is basically the bedrock on which the entire fantasy genre is built. It was an international fantasy phenomenon half a century before Harry Potter. You saying it's not as good as some Peter Jackson films is downright disrespectful.
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Silver Linings Playbook
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The Natural
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Quincy Varnish wrote: 26 Aug 2025 21:09 pm The Natural
Local STL Sports radio host Randy Karraker tells a great story about what happened when he was in middle school and did a book report on The Natural, but instead of reading the book, he only watched the movie.

You can guess how that went.
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While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
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Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
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3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
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MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
There is nothing wrong with SK stories but there are films like Shawshank that just did it better than the SK story. Even SK has stated as much. In Shawshank the film changed some key things that were just more satisfying than the novella. Example, the warden in the book simply retires from his job with zero consequences to his actions. The whole money laundering scheme and Andy taking all of the funds for himself, that was not in the novella either.
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MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
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3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
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edwin drood wrote: 04 Sep 2025 10:19 am
3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
I am so tired of hitman/assassin/elite spy stories... From the quantity of movies/shows made about them you'd think these people make up like a quarter of our work force. The genre has become basically a mandatory career choice for aging male actors.

I don't care how well it's done, the genre itself has been exhausted for at least a decade. And once you hear about the phenomenon you can't stop seeing it pretty much every other new trailer.
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3dender wrote: 04 Sep 2025 11:38 am
edwin drood wrote: 04 Sep 2025 10:19 am
3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
I am so tired of hitman/assassin/elite spy stories... From the quantity of movies/shows made about them you'd think these people make up like a quarter of our work force. The genre has become basically a mandatory career choice for aging male actors.

I don't care how well it's done, the genre itself has been exhausted for at least a decade. And once you hear about the phenomenon you can't stop seeing it pretty much every other new trailer.
Lest you go away thinking it's "just another hitman story", it's far more and the actual "hit" is actually a small scene in the book. I consider this among King's best works, if not the best. The characters are richly developed and the themes are fascinating. Here's a very glowing review.

https://zachary-houle.medium.com/a-revi ... ba824ba7c6
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edwin drood wrote: 05 Sep 2025 15:49 pm
3dender wrote: 04 Sep 2025 11:38 am
edwin drood wrote: 04 Sep 2025 10:19 am
3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
I am so tired of hitman/assassin/elite spy stories... From the quantity of movies/shows made about them you'd think these people make up like a quarter of our work force. The genre has become basically a mandatory career choice for aging male actors.

I don't care how well it's done, the genre itself has been exhausted for at least a decade. And once you hear about the phenomenon you can't stop seeing it pretty much every other new trailer.
Lest you go away thinking it's "just another hitman story", it's far more and the actual "hit" is actually a small scene in the book. I consider this among King's best works, if not the best. The characters are richly developed and the themes are fascinating. Here's a very glowing review.

https://zachary-houle.medium.com/a-revi ... ba824ba7c6
The book was just o.k.

IMO
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thegibby. wrote: 05 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
edwin drood wrote: 05 Sep 2025 15:49 pm
3dender wrote: 04 Sep 2025 11:38 am
edwin drood wrote: 04 Sep 2025 10:19 am
3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
I am so tired of hitman/assassin/elite spy stories... From the quantity of movies/shows made about them you'd think these people make up like a quarter of our work force. The genre has become basically a mandatory career choice for aging male actors.

I don't care how well it's done, the genre itself has been exhausted for at least a decade. And once you hear about the phenomenon you can't stop seeing it pretty much every other new trailer.
Lest you go away thinking it's "just another hitman story", it's far more and the actual "hit" is actually a small scene in the book. I consider this among King's best works, if not the best. The characters are richly developed and the themes are fascinating. Here's a very glowing review.

https://zachary-houle.medium.com/a-revi ... ba824ba7c6
The book was just o.k.

IMO
Just curious.... Were you expecting a more Stephen Kingish story?
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edwin drood wrote: 05 Sep 2025 19:07 pm
thegibby. wrote: 05 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
edwin drood wrote: 05 Sep 2025 15:49 pm
3dender wrote: 04 Sep 2025 11:38 am
edwin drood wrote: 04 Sep 2025 10:19 am
3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
I am so tired of hitman/assassin/elite spy stories... From the quantity of movies/shows made about them you'd think these people make up like a quarter of our work force. The genre has become basically a mandatory career choice for aging male actors.

I don't care how well it's done, the genre itself has been exhausted for at least a decade. And once you hear about the phenomenon you can't stop seeing it pretty much every other new trailer.
Lest you go away thinking it's "just another hitman story", it's far more and the actual "hit" is actually a small scene in the book. I consider this among King's best works, if not the best. The characters are richly developed and the themes are fascinating. Here's a very glowing review.

https://zachary-houle.medium.com/a-revi ... ba824ba7c6
The book was just o.k.

IMO
Just curious.... Were you expecting a more Stephen Kingish story?
Knew what I was getting into when I read it; funny, but I thought it dragged out (then built up with excitement; as the critic says) and then act 4 (going after the big guy) was short and sweet. Like I said; it was o.k.
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thegibby. wrote: 06 Sep 2025 20:58 pm
edwin drood wrote: 05 Sep 2025 19:07 pm
thegibby. wrote: 05 Sep 2025 17:54 pm
edwin drood wrote: 05 Sep 2025 15:49 pm
3dender wrote: 04 Sep 2025 11:38 am
edwin drood wrote: 04 Sep 2025 10:19 am
3dender wrote: 03 Sep 2025 07:49 am
MikoTython wrote: 02 Sep 2025 21:54 pm
3dender wrote: 02 Sep 2025 09:09 am
Edson wrote: 02 Sep 2025 08:15 am While it is a short story I always thought The Shawshank Redemption film was far superior than the short story.
Good one, as well as "Stand By Me" while we're doing Stephen King stuff... as well as the new "Running Man" from the looks of the trailer, and maybe even "The Long Walk."
What was wrong/deficient with those SK stories ? They were some of the finest writing King ever penned. They were, after all, novellas, the more or less complete germ of the films that followed.
All four stories are perfectly fine for what they are, no major flaws at all. Two of the movies though are absolute classics so of course they will be better than the story... Stand By Me especially has way more heart and emotional impact than the story.

The other two (Running Man and Long Walk) it's probably a stretch to say they're better, and it probably doesn't matter anyway because really we're just talking about B-movie genre fare for both story and movie. Long Walk especially has been one of my favorite stories since I was a kid so I doubt I'll consider the movie better, even if the trailer looks pretty good.
I'm looking forward to the film adaptation of King's 2021 novel Billy Summers. Being produced by JJ Abrams and Leonardo DiCaprio, DiCaprio being rumored to playing the lead of Billy. Like Shawshank and Stand By Me, and unlike nearly all King's work, it contains nothing supernatural. Billy is a former Marine sniper and current hitman who's about to accept one last job before retirement. The book was terrific, IMO, and could make for a great film. Billy is mid- 40's and circumstances get him involved with a 21 girl, a role likely to be highly competitive for every young Hollywood Hottie.
I am so tired of hitman/assassin/elite spy stories... From the quantity of movies/shows made about them you'd think these people make up like a quarter of our work force. The genre has become basically a mandatory career choice for aging male actors.

I don't care how well it's done, the genre itself has been exhausted for at least a decade. And once you hear about the phenomenon you can't stop seeing it pretty much every other new trailer.
Lest you go away thinking it's "just another hitman story", it's far more and the actual "hit" is actually a small scene in the book. I consider this among King's best works, if not the best. The characters are richly developed and the themes are fascinating. Here's a very glowing review.

https://zachary-houle.medium.com/a-revi ... ba824ba7c6
The book was just o.k.

IMO
Just curious.... Were you expecting a more Stephen Kingish story?
Knew what I was getting into when I read it; funny, but I thought it dragged out (then built up with excitement; as the critic says) and then act 4 (going after the big guy) was short and sweet. Like I said; it was o.k.
...would have made a better novelette. IMO

could be a decent movie.
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