September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Just remember part of the Oli equation is who do you replace him with for 2026. Please don’t start listing names. I know there are options but it might serve bloom to let Oli’s contract run out if he can’t find his perfect fit for 2026.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shady is on probation so who comes back on here? Bully. What a pile of
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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thetank2 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 12:01 pm
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shady is on probation so who comes back on here? Bully. What a pile of
Regardless of who posts it, do you disagree with the need for change in these areas, setting aside the fact we know Moe is leaving?
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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First of all numb nuts Mo isn't leaving until Nov. 1 so Bloom probably won't be able to do anything till then. I would like to see Marmol gone but Descalso, Jay and Clapp stay. Since Marmol is under contract for one more year and DimWitt has decided to be cheap Oli will probably be back for 2026!
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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JDW wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:15 am
ramfandan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:03 am
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well , we know that Mo will be gone 100% on that but as for Oli and all the coaches being dismissed ? What happens if only one of your 3 wishes comes true. Then what ? Will your turn on Bloom immediately ?
Bully's bloom wilted a long time ago.
It never was a bloom, it was a putrid infection
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please only positive comments about the front office and coaches...you will upset the bootlickers on here!
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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thetank2 wrote: 03 Sep 2025 12:01 pm
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shady is on probation so who comes back on here? Bully. What a pile of
he was born that way
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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riff raff wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:39 am
Cusecards wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:12 am We know that Bloom is in his 2nd year with the organization.
He will obviously have a lot on his plate to start mostly notably with the roster but also with the manager and his staff.
I don’t know how much in direct dealings Bloom has had with Oli?
So it’s possible he will wait longer to form an opinion?!
On sports open line a few nights ago they were reporting that Oli has been meeting with Bloom on a regular basis for quite some time now.
The inference was that they have a good relationship and that it appears it will continue beyond this season. It was also mentioned that almost to a man the players liked playing for Oli and he has the clubhouse.
Could be certainly.
Look.....as a fan I form my opinions mostly from watching the games and also from media reports.
I have ZERO inside knowledge of what goes on in the dugout and in the clubhouse.
If they have a good relationship then fine.
Watching the games only Oli seems shaky to me and his decision making questionable more often than not.
But again everyone has opinions!
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Cusecards wrote: 03 Sep 2025 16:20 pm
riff raff wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:39 am
Cusecards wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:12 am We know that Bloom is in his 2nd year with the organization.
He will obviously have a lot on his plate to start mostly notably with the roster but also with the manager and his staff.
I don’t know how much in direct dealings Bloom has had with Oli?
So it’s possible he will wait longer to form an opinion?!
On sports open line a few nights ago they were reporting that Oli has been meeting with Bloom on a regular basis for quite some time now.
The inference was that they have a good relationship and that it appears it will continue beyond this season. It was also mentioned that almost to a man the players liked playing for Oli and he has the clubhouse.
Could be certainly.
Look.....as a fan I form my opinions mostly from watching the games and also from media reports.
I have ZERO inside knowledge of what goes on in the dugout and in the clubhouse.
If they have a good relationship then fine.
Watching the games only Oli seems shaky to me and his decision making questionable more often than not.
But again everyone has opinions!
Well, that's what was reported so take it for whatever you want.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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riff raff wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:39 am
Cusecards wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:12 am We know that Bloom is in his 2nd year with the organization.
He will obviously have a lot on his plate to start mostly notably with the roster but also with the manager and his staff.
I don’t know how much in direct dealings Bloom has had with Oli?
So it’s possible he will wait longer to form an opinion?!
On sports open line a few nights ago they were reporting that Oli has been meeting with Bloom on a regular basis for quite some time now.
The inference was that they have a good relationship and that it appears it will continue beyond this season. It was also mentioned that almost to a man the players liked playing for Oli and he has the clubhouse.
Who cares whether this (bleep) manager "has the clubhouse"? Especially regarding THIS clubhouse, which in itself is a problem.

If Bloom retains Oli and his incompetent coaching staff, I along with many other fans will be officially off board with Bloom until he proves he's right. This would not be a new beginning with Mozeliak's puppet returning. The Mozeliak stench must be removed from alpha to omega, and there aren't many alphas.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Jatalk wrote: 03 Sep 2025 11:38 am Just remember part of the Oli equation is who do you replace him with for 2026. Please don’t start listing names. I know there are options but it might serve bloom to let Oli’s contract run out if he can’t find his perfect fit for 2026.
I think fans will be a lot more patient with a fresh face in the dugout vs. the dumb face in the dugout. Bloom cannot afford to lose any more fans by retaining that mental midget who is nothing more than a puppet of Mozeliak.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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riff raff wrote: 03 Sep 2025 18:57 pm
Cusecards wrote: 03 Sep 2025 16:20 pm
riff raff wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:39 am
Cusecards wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:12 am We know that Bloom is in his 2nd year with the organization.
He will obviously have a lot on his plate to start mostly notably with the roster but also with the manager and his staff.
I don’t know how much in direct dealings Bloom has had with Oli?
So it’s possible he will wait longer to form an opinion?!
On sports open line a few nights ago they were reporting that Oli has been meeting with Bloom on a regular basis for quite some time now.
The inference was that they have a good relationship and that it appears it will continue beyond this season. It was also mentioned that almost to a man the players liked playing for Oli and he has the clubhouse.
Could be certainly.
Look.....as a fan I form my opinions mostly from watching the games and also from media reports.
I have ZERO inside knowledge of what goes on in the dugout and in the clubhouse.
If they have a good relationship then fine.
Watching the games only Oli seems shaky to me and his decision making questionable more often than not.
But again everyone has opinions!
Well, that's what was reported so take it for whatever you want.
Like I said I’m just a fan who watches every game.
We’ll find out after the season.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:22 am
ramfandan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:03 am
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well , we know that Mo will be gone 100% on that but as for Oli and all the coaches being dismissed ? What happens if only one of your 3 wishes comes true. Then what ? Will your turn on Bloom immediately ?
I'll assume dEwitt is at fault.
He has Oli under contract for 2026.
Maybe he doesn't want to forfeit those dollars.
Bloom should resign if that's the case.
Bloom gets to have whoever he wants as manager in his first season. It will give him time to assess who he might want to manage the Cardinals the next 5-10 years. Oli hasn't been the problem, contrary to the disgruntled CT'ers. He had a good year when the team was good in '22. A terrible year when the team was terrible in '23. A + .500 year when the "fans" thought the team would be worse than '23 and a so so year while the team sold their bullpen and the POBO couldn't trade Arenado. Heck, he held the team together when late inning relief left and Arenado, and now Burley, were injured.

He's not a savior and he isn't the problem, just a symptom. Only an idiot thinks Bloom should resign if Oli stays. Next year, he will have had time to map out his team and would be more likely to name his own manager. The Boo Birds be dam.ned Bloom gets time from me to fix things his own way.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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hugeCardfan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 21:28 pm
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:22 am
ramfandan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:03 am
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well , we know that Mo will be gone 100% on that but as for Oli and all the coaches being dismissed ? What happens if only one of your 3 wishes comes true. Then what ? Will your turn on Bloom immediately ?
I'll assume dEwitt is at fault.
He has Oli under contract for 2026.
Maybe he doesn't want to forfeit those dollars.
Bloom should resign if that's the case.
Bloom gets to have whoever he wants as manager in his first season. It will give him time to assess who he might want to manage the Cardinals the next 5-10 years. Oli hasn't been the problem, contrary to the disgruntled CT'ers. He had a good year when the team was good in '22. A terrible year when the team was terrible in '23. A + .500 year when the "fans" thought the team would be worse than '23 and a so so year while the team sold their bullpen and the POBO couldn't trade Arenado. Heck, he held the team together when late inning relief left and Arenado, and now Burley, were injured.

He's not a savior and he isn't the problem, just a symptom. Only an idiot thinks Bloom should resign if Oli stays. Next year, he will have had time to map out his team and would be more likely to name his own manager. The Boo Birds be dam.ned Bloom gets time from me to fix things his own way.
Bloom will be in his 3rd year here. So he has had plenty of time to assess whom he might want to manage for the long haul. If he needs yet another year to assess that, he's the wrong man for the job. And if he sticks with the Mozeliak man for next year, he won't have many fans on board with that. Marmol may not be THE problem, but he is A problem.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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icon wrote: 03 Sep 2025 21:43 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 21:28 pm
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:22 am
ramfandan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:03 am
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well , we know that Mo will be gone 100% on that but as for Oli and all the coaches being dismissed ? What happens if only one of your 3 wishes comes true. Then what ? Will your turn on Bloom immediately ?
I'll assume dEwitt is at fault.
He has Oli under contract for 2026.
Maybe he doesn't want to forfeit those dollars.
Bloom should resign if that's the case.
Bloom gets to have whoever he wants as manager in his first season. It will give him time to assess who he might want to manage the Cardinals the next 5-10 years. Oli hasn't been the problem, contrary to the disgruntled CT'ers. He had a good year when the team was good in '22. A terrible year when the team was terrible in '23. A + .500 year when the "fans" thought the team would be worse than '23 and a so so year while the team sold their bullpen and the POBO couldn't trade Arenado. Heck, he held the team together when late inning relief left and Arenado, and now Burley, were injured.

He's not a savior and he isn't the problem, just a symptom. Only an idiot thinks Bloom should resign if Oli stays. Next year, he will have had time to map out his team and would be more likely to name his own manager. The Boo Birds be dam.ned Bloom gets time from me to fix things his own way.
Bloom will be in his 3rd year here. So he has had plenty of time to assess whom he might want to manage for the long haul. If he needs yet another year to assess that, he's the wrong man for the job. And if he sticks with the Mozeliak man for next year, he won't have many fans on board with that. Marmol may not be THE problem, but he is A problem.
You know that is baloney. Last offseason, Bloom had no title but was allowed to begin making changes at the minor league level to the player development department, hiring Rob Cerfolio as an assistant general manager to oversee player development and performance; taking over for the outgoing Gary LaRoque. Bloom and Cerfoilo made a wave of hires underneath that umbrella. LaRoque and Steinhorn were advised to make different plans for '25. He had no authority last or this year to undergo discussions on behalf of the team regarding ML managerial decisions.

Only now, as Bloom takes over Mozeliak's seat, will he have full reign to execute changes to all areas of the organization. That would be jerking a rabbit thru a knothole at this point. Now, if he's willing to make monumental decision tending to the next 5-10 years, more power to him. If not, screw those who see no alternative. Whenever he makes the move will be when HE is comfortable and not Joe Keyboard.
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Re: September 29, 2025 can't come soon enough

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hugeCardfan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 22:10 pm
icon wrote: 03 Sep 2025 21:43 pm
hugeCardfan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 21:28 pm
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 10:22 am
ramfandan wrote: 03 Sep 2025 09:03 am
Bully4you wrote: 03 Sep 2025 08:45 am Fire Oli.
Fire all coaches.
Mo gone.
New beginning!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well , we know that Mo will be gone 100% on that but as for Oli and all the coaches being dismissed ? What happens if only one of your 3 wishes comes true. Then what ? Will your turn on Bloom immediately ?
I'll assume dEwitt is at fault.
He has Oli under contract for 2026.
Maybe he doesn't want to forfeit those dollars.
Bloom should resign if that's the case.
Bloom gets to have whoever he wants as manager in his first season. It will give him time to assess who he might want to manage the Cardinals the next 5-10 years. Oli hasn't been the problem, contrary to the disgruntled CT'ers. He had a good year when the team was good in '22. A terrible year when the team was terrible in '23. A + .500 year when the "fans" thought the team would be worse than '23 and a so so year while the team sold their bullpen and the POBO couldn't trade Arenado. Heck, he held the team together when late inning relief left and Arenado, and now Burley, were injured.

He's not a savior and he isn't the problem, just a symptom. Only an idiot thinks Bloom should resign if Oli stays. Next year, he will have had time to map out his team and would be more likely to name his own manager. The Boo Birds be dam.ned Bloom gets time from me to fix things his own way.
Bloom will be in his 3rd year here. So he has had plenty of time to assess whom he might want to manage for the long haul. If he needs yet another year to assess that, he's the wrong man for the job. And if he sticks with the Mozeliak man for next year, he won't have many fans on board with that. Marmol may not be THE problem, but he is A problem.
You know that is baloney. Last offseason, Bloom had no title but was allowed to begin making changes at the minor league level to the player development department, hiring Rob Cerfolio as an assistant general manager to oversee player development and performance; taking over for the outgoing Gary LaRoque. Bloom and Cerfoilo made a wave of hires underneath that umbrella. LaRoque and Steinhorn were advised to make different plans for '25. He had no authority last or this year to undergo discussions on behalf of the team regarding ML managerial decisions.

Only now, as Bloom takes over Mozeliak's seat, will he have full reign to execute changes to all areas of the organization. That would be jerking a rabbit thru a knothole at this point. Now, if he's willing to make monumental decision tending to the next 5-10 years, more power to him. If not, screw those who see no alternative. Whenever he makes the move will be when HE is comfortable and not Joe Keyboard.
He has always been the POBO in waiting here. And he's been around MLB a long time. So I'm guessing he has thought about potential managers, your protestations and name calling notwithstanding.
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