We can ignore AP, Yadi, Goldy, Nado, Smoltz, Rolen, and I'd say Wainwright too. If AW doesn't make the Hall then he's obviously the best Cardinal this century to not make it. Mark McGwire is in that category too
But what about after them?
I'd think Holliday, Edmonds, both Carpenters, Lynn, and Renteria are up there. Who else and in what order would we rank them for their entire careers? Berkman, Beltran? Gray? probably not Wong. Maybe Drew?
Rank the 21st century Cardianals who won't make the HOF
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Re: Rank the 21st century Cardianals who won't make the HOF
EdmondsCarp4Cy wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:07 pm We can ignore AP, Yadi, Goldy, Nado, Smoltz, Rolen, and I'd say Wainwright too. If AW doesn't make the Hall then he's obviously the best Cardinal this century to not make it. Mark McGwire is in that category too
But what about after them?
I'd think Holliday, Edmonds, both Carpenters, Lynn, and Renteria are up there. Who else and in what order would we rank them for their entire careers? Berkman, Beltran? Gray? probably not Wong. Maybe Drew?
Berkman
Beltran
CCarpenter
Holliday
Renteria
MCarpenter
Lynn
That's how I'd put the ones you listed. Maybe could swap Beltran and Berkman if you value the defense and speed. I feel Berkman was an elite-elite hitter in his prime, for several years. He's right there with C. Jones as far as switch hitters. I put Renteria above Carpenter for longevity and playing SS but you could put a couple of Carp's seasons on a showcase if you wanted to.
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Re: Rank the 21st century Cardianals who won't make the HOF
I think you’ve already named our “Hall of Good” candidates. I’d guess the order as (Cardinals Career)Carp4Cy wrote: ↑01 Sep 2025 16:07 pm We can ignore AP, Yadi, Goldy, Nado, Smoltz, Rolen, and I'd say Wainwright too. If AW doesn't make the Hall then he's obviously the best Cardinal this century to not make it. Mark McGwire is in that category too
But what about after them?
I'd think Holliday, Edmonds, both Carpenters, Lynn, and Renteria are up there. Who else and in what order would we rank them for their entire careers? Berkman, Beltran? Gray? probably not Wong. Maybe Drew?
Edmonds
Wainwright
Holliday
Chris Carpenter
Renteria
Lynn
Isringhausen
Matt Carpenter
Beltran or Berkman? Short careers here but Beran was instrumental in a WS title.