Albert Pujols got gypped--Should have 7 MVP's

[scoutyjones2]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Don't care too much about who wins the MVP award, but Pujols was robbed because he repeatedly lost out to cheaters mainly Barry Bonds. But what are you gonna do?

Pujols is on the fast track to the HOF, Bonds may never get there. Don't know how Albert feels about it, but I'd rather have that.

That's an interesting question, and I think the majority of people would agree with you.

Would you rather be, statistically, one of the very best players of all time, have the two most famous records in the sport, and be a 7x MVP, but not be in the HOF because of a very well known scandal (for lack of a better phrase) OR; be a 3x MVP (who should have at least one if not two or three more, but oh well) who has 3,000 hits (top 10 in hits), passed every major HR milestone up to 700 (4th all time, including behind a known PED user), 5th in doubles, 2nd in total bases, 2nd in RBIs, 12th in runs scored, be a slam dunk 1st ballot HOF (maybe even a 100% vote getter) but maybe not in that many top 10 lists of all time?

It's a easy choice for me because the last thing I'd want is to have CHEATER engraved over my record whatever that record is. It taints everything you've ever done or will do.

A reputation is a fragile thing. Once you've lost people's respect, it's extremely hard to get it back.

Cheating and lying no longer matter

[alw80]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

[makesnosense]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

When i watch baseball I want to see the best players in the game. Bonds was by far the best I've ever seen live and in their prime. Steroids are not a magic pill for success. Bonds put the work in. All done to make himself go from a great player to one of greatest players of all time.

[11WSChamps]

Said all along when Albert was here Bonds cheating screwed him out of least two MVP awards.

You either condone cheating or you don't.

It shouldn't be at the game or another players expense.

[ecleme22]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

When i watch baseball I want to see the best players in the game. Bonds was by far the best I've ever seen live and in their prime. Steroids are not a magic pill for success. Bonds put the work in. All done to make himself go from a great player to one of greatest players of all time.

I just can’t look can’t look at his stats at face value

[rockondlouie]

Ted Williams had two triple crown seasons and didn't win the MVP award so how do you think he felt?

J. Gordon (18 HR/103 RBI/.322 .409 .491 .900) in 1942 was a total JOKE over the Splended Splinter (36 HR/137 RBI/356 .499 .648 1.147) and his Triple Crown.

Joe D. (20 HR/97 RBI/.315 .391 .522 .913) stole the 1947 award from him (32 HR/114 RBI/.343 .499 .634 1.133) too.

Ted was not popular with the writers.

That's what I've read Colo

[acewater11]

Jack Clark thought Albert used steroids/PEDs.

[Ozziesfan41]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

[Ozziesfan41]

Jack Clark thought Albert used steroids/PEDs.

Jack Clark is an attention seeking idiot if Pujols was on steroids he would have been hitting 40+ home runs at 38 like bonds instead of just 19

[alw80]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

[ecleme22]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

We don’t have to assume they all cheated.

Steroids obviously unlocked something in Barry that it didn’t unlock in others. But still, I can’t look at a 39 year old w a 1.400 ops at face value.

[alw80]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

We don’t have to assume they all cheated.

Steroids obviously unlocked something in Barry that it didn’t unlock in others. But still, I can’t look at a 39 year old w a 1.400 ops at face value.

Sure not all just the ones who put up the crazy numbers.

[makesnosense]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

We don’t have to assume they all cheated.

Steroids obviously unlocked something in Barry that it didn’t unlock in others. But still, I can’t look at a 39 year old w a 1.400 ops at face value.

Sure not all just the ones who put up the crazy numbers.

No because some like to pick and choose. Many think Edmonds got ripped off and Molina is first ballot. They are no doubters. So it's ok for some to to use just not the really good ones. And yes Pujols used but i'm ok with it.

[alw80]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

We don’t have to assume they all cheated.

Steroids obviously unlocked something in Barry that it didn’t unlock in others. But still, I can’t look at a 39 year old w a 1.400 ops at face value.

Sure not all just the ones who put up the crazy numbers.

No because some like to pick and choose. Many think Edmonds got ripped off and Molina is first ballot. They are no doubters. So it's ok for some to to use just not the really good ones. And yes Pujols used but i'm ok with it.

Edmonds did get ripped off but Im not really into the HOF. I think it should be the absolute best of the best to get in or there should be an active HOF and then a section with guys who were HOFers but no longer make the cut. Im in the minority here but the whole thing is silly anyways.

[Ozziesfan41]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

That’s your opinion everyone was stained equally. Stained equally in your mind not in everyone’s. I believe in innocent until proven guilty bonds and McGwire admitted they used. If some one shows me some proof Pujols used I’ll use it im not going to listen to some nut who says on line oh pujols used sure I have no proof I’m just saying something without a shred of proof or someone who says you should believe everyone used just because McGwire and bonds used that’s crazy. Innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent I say. If you want to believe everyone is guilty because bonds cheated and McGwire that’s cool but I don’t. And no I disagree that because some are guilty that means everyone is guilty it’s silly and makes no sense

[alw80]

Lost out to Barry Bonds 3 times.
Lost out to Votto in 2010.
I think he should be retroactively given the three MVP's lost to Bonds.
The Votto loss is ridiculous too.
Votto playing in Cincinnati too easy to hit there.
Just a complete scam.
Pujols always had excellent seasons with Cardinals.
Tough ballpark to hit in.
Just a shame.

Bonds was amazing, cant really gripe about those.

An amazing cheater

In a league of cheaters.

What difference does that make? He’s the best cheater so what that doesn’t mean anything it just means he was the best of the cheaters his accomplishments mean nothing

Everyone is stained equally therefore it doesn't matter. Do APs accomplishments mean more? You know for a fact he never cheated? We have to assume they were all cheaters.

That’s your opinion everyone was stained equally. Stained equally in your mind not in everyone’s. I believe in innocent until proven guilty bonds and McGwire admitted they used. If some one shows me some proof Pujols used I’ll use it im not going to listen to some nut who says on line oh pujols used sure I have no proof I’m just saying something without a shred of proof or someone who says you should believe everyone used just because McGwire and bonds used that’s crazy. Innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent I say. If you want to believe everyone is guilty because bonds cheated and McGwire that’s cool but I don’t. And no I disagree that because some are guilty that means everyone is guilty it’s silly and makes no sense

Not surprising.