Gorman's Walk Rate

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Gorman's Walk Rate

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I saw that Gorman's walk rate (about 13%) was in the 90th percentile of MLB hitters. He is showing flashes of starting to find it. Despite his low average and high stike out rate, he is technically an above average hitter (109 OPS+). The fielding is still rough but would be better at third. Of course it depends on what is offered, but I would not sell low on him this offseason. You need at least one of your home grown guys to become a legit threat and maybe it's him.
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Gorman is looking really good.

And that walk rate is exceptional.
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Bob39 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:09 am I saw that Gorman's walk rate (about 13%) was in the 90th percentile of MLB hitters. He is showing flashes of starting to find it. Despite his low average and high stike out rate, he is technically an above average hitter (109 OPS+). The fielding is still rough but would be better at third. Of course it depends on what is offered, but I would not sell low on him this offseason. You need at least one of your home grown guys to become a legit threat and maybe it's him.
92% to be exact!

And his LA sweet-spot is in the 94%-tile!

No way I deal him, he's starting to figure it out.
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I believe Gorman and Burleson would both be better if we had a bonafide anchor in the lineup.
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11WSChamps wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:32 am I believe Gorman and Burleson would both be better if we had a bonafide anchor in the lineup.
Same. Though I also said similar things for Paul DeJong, too.

In my mind, Burleson's a good auxiliary bat. I could see him pulling a couple of all-star reserve nominations, but otherwise he's good for 20ish home runs, 80ish RBI, and few strike-outs. I could see him having a Matt Lawton-esque career with fewer stolen bases. Not a bad player. But also not a player your want to anchor a line-up.

Gorman...man...Gorman's production right now would be ideal if it were 2022 and you had Nado and Goldy to be the guys to hold it down night in and night out. And Albert to be the old-head to help lighten the load. I think at his best he could be that good tertiary line-up threat. But I wouldn't want him to be the guy that you hang a line-up on.
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ecleme22 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:28 am Gorman is looking really good.

And that walk rate is exceptional.
Where do you play him? Has been an error machine and slow to get to ground balls.
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Bob39 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:09 am I saw that Gorman's walk rate (about 13%) was in the 90th percentile of MLB hitters. He is showing flashes of starting to find it. Despite his low average and high stike out rate, he is technically an above average hitter (109 OPS+). The fielding is still rough but would be better at third. Of course it depends on what is offered, but I would not sell low on him this offseason. You need at least one of your home grown guys to become a legit threat and maybe it's him.
His value is actually among the highest on the team.
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Lightning Rod wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:08 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:28 am Gorman is looking really good.

And that walk rate is exceptional.
Where do you play him? Has been an error machine and slow to get to ground balls.
Best case would be WillyC waiving and Norman goes to 1st base.

If not, then DH is his best spot.
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Lightning Rod wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:08 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:28 am Gorman is looking really good.

And that walk rate is exceptional.
Where do you play him? Has been an error machine and slow to get to ground balls.
He can improve.
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ecleme22 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 14:03 pm
Lightning Rod wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:08 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:28 am Gorman is looking really good.

And that walk rate is exceptional.
Where do you play him? Has been an error machine and slow to get to ground balls.
He can improve.
The battle cry of every major leauger who is underperforming. He's not a rookie, so what is it that you've seen that makes you think that?
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Lightning Rod wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:08 pm
ecleme22 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:28 am Gorman is looking really good.

And that walk rate is exceptional.
Where do you play him? Has been an error machine and slow to get to ground balls.
This
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Trade him in the offseason while his value will be high and other teams think he has figured it out
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Bob39 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:09 am I saw that Gorman's walk rate (about 13%) was in the 90th percentile of MLB hitters. He is showing flashes of starting to find it. Despite his low average and high stike out rate, he is technically an above average hitter (109 OPS+). The fielding is still rough but would be better at third. Of course it depends on what is offered, but I would not sell low on him this offseason. You need at least one of your home grown guys to become a legit threat and maybe it's him.
Ooo...109 OPS+!

Will the back hold? Will pitchers still find his remaining holes? Can you live bad D?
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Strummer Jones wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:57 am
11WSChamps wrote: 28 Aug 2025 11:32 am I believe Gorman and Burleson would both be better if we had a bonafide anchor in the lineup.
Same. Though I also said similar things for Paul DeJong, too.

In my mind, Burleson's a good auxiliary bat. I could see him pulling a couple of all-star reserve nominations, but otherwise he's good for 20ish home runs, 80ish RBI, and few strike-outs. I could see him having a Matt Lawton-esque career with fewer stolen bases. Not a bad player. But also not a player your want to anchor a line-up.

Gorman...man...Gorman's production right now would be ideal if it were 2022 and you had Nado and Goldy to be the guys to hold it down night in and night out. And Albert to be the old-head to help lighten the load. I think at his best he could be that good tertiary line-up threat. But I wouldn't want him to be the guy that you hang a line-up on.
The problem isnthat we have no elite bats but still have gaping holes in the lineup like scott, pages, and possibly arenado/saggese going into next year(maybe crooks replaces pages but id have liked him to be called up now, he has to be added to 40 man in offseason anyway)

Without elite bats you can get by if you have all avg or better bats but we dont have that either with some clear holes.
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Lowering the bar for Gorman, aren't we? I mean, at one time he was a power-hitting middle infielder, the likes of which had never been seen. Now....he walks a lot. Gorman's value is and always has been his potential as a slugger, even more so now that he is likely to be a DH due to his ineptness in the field. He needs to figure out how to become THAT player.
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Kind of a weird thought, but sometimes I think Contreras has the skills for 3B and could learn to be a really good defensive 3B, with Gorman moving to 1B. Combine that with Winn and Wetherholt up the middle on the IF with Donovan then moving to LF or could be traded, especially if Herrera learns LF well.
I know, too many moving parts, lol.
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