RoyceR wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 20:34 pm
He needs more grooming, not looking good at the plate
The whole team looks overmatched ace.
This. Did OP even watch the game the whole team got mowed down.
CT also had way too high of expectations for Church. He's a better-hitting, worse-fielding Siani. The Siani thresholds for offense and defense are at opposite extremes, so Church can still be a pretty good 4th OF.
hugeCardfan wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 21:52 pm
Given our lackluster situation this year, we can probably afford more than 40 AB's to make a call. I think he will become more accommodated. The majors is quite a shock for most newly promoted.
Exactly. Not like Victor Scott was tearing it up after getting full “runway” all year. Give Church some ABs in MLB . He destroyed Triple A all year. Nothing more to prove there.
+1 he has hit the ball harder in 10 days than Scott did in 2 months last year.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:05 am
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is better than Scott.
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is overmatched.
I agree. But I also remember a time when a young player was brought up, they were ready. Way too much on the job training on the Major League level in this era. I just wish one of these guys was a right-handed hitter that could hit with power.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:05 am
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is better than Scott.
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is overmatched.
I agree. But I also remember a time when a young player was brought up, they were ready. Way too much on the job training on the Major League level in this era. I just wish one of these guys was a right-handed hitter that could hit with power.
He went 0-15 after his call-up, but is 3-9 since. Not any worse than the whole team (3 hits last night). Another game (3 in august) lost because we couldn’t get a runner home from third with less than 2 outs
Amazing how every rookie MUST hit .500 with an OPS of 1200 or he is a bum. BFIB, not by a mile. The Cards talk crowd is now nothing but whiners, complainers and cry babies.
hugeCardfan wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 21:52 pm
Given our lackluster situation this year, we can probably afford more than 40 AB's to make a call. I think he will become more accommodated. The majors is quite a shock for most newly promoted.
Exactly. Not like Victor Scott was tearing it up after getting full “runway” all year. Give Church some ABs in MLB . He destroyed Triple A all year. Nothing more to prove there.
+1
Let it play out this season, give the kids the PA's.
Bloom is taking over soon, hopefully many JAG players will be gone by OD 2026.
11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:45 am
I'd like to see him get more time.
Chances are once Bloom trades Nootbar Church will make the roster in 2026.
His defense is good and he has a better arm than Scott.
The problem with is way too many left-handed hitters with little power.
Sure.
But the problem isn't necessarily Scott or Church. It's the fact we haven't had a corner OF MOB forever which lessens the load of offense on a good defensive CFer.
That's one of common denominators in this revolving door of CFers in the last decade.
11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:45 am
I'd like to see him get more time.
Chances are once Bloom trades Nootbar Church will make the roster in 2026.
His defense is good and he has a better arm than Scott.
The problem with is way too many left-handed hitters with little power.
Sure.
But the problem isn't necessarily Scott or Church. It's the fact we haven't had a corner OF MOB forever which lessens the load of offense on a good defensive CFer.
That's one of common denominators in this revolving door of CFers in the last decade.
11WSChamps wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:45 am
I'd like to see him get more time.
Chances are once Bloom trades Nootbar Church will make the roster in 2026.
His defense is good and he has a better arm than Scott.
The problem with is way too many left-handed hitters with little power.
Sure.
But the problem isn't necessarily Scott or Church. It's the fact we haven't had a corner OF MOB forever which lessens the load of offense on a good defensive CFer.
That's one of common denominators in this revolving door of CFers in the last decade.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:05 am
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is better than Scott.
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is overmatched.
Last night Church and the rest of the team was overmatched. Maybe we should give Church a chance. Shouldn’t be a surprise if a young hitter or pitcher struggles initially at the major league level.
ecleme22 wrote: ↑28 Aug 2025 08:05 am
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is better than Scott.
It's dumb to say, after a few games, that Church is overmatched.
I agree. But I also remember a time when a young player was brought up, they were ready. Way too much on the job training on the Major League level in this era. I just wish one of these guys was a right-handed hitter that could hit with power.
Not all. Keith Hernandez and his can't miss swing got sent down 2? times at least for him to catch on. First mlb in 1974 some at bats and then he sucked at beginning and end of 1975 when they gave him some run.
