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Re: So how good will Mailloux be?

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theograce wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:07 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 27 Aug 2025 10:57 am that can't possibly be a serious comment
maybe it's not an all the time thing, but in this thread alone, ripping on buchy and now making some pretty wild statements on comps on a recent acquisition. overexaggeration by my part on "always" hating, but you didn't respond 1 time defending your buchy thoughts other than "feels" and now are setting an acquisition up for failure comparing him to a defender coming off a top 10 in the league defensive performance.

and the guy that seems to comment when you "log off" seems to be an interesting character.
Buchnevich was shredded by loads of Rangers fans. They couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. They all haters
I call [nonsense].
Please explain your comments. How many loads and fans per load? 2-3?
EVERY Ranger fan I know has been (upset) about losing Buch to St. Louis.
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I know this much as fact, from Mailloux's workouts at Centene those around him like what they see, now (baby parayko). One step at a time. Ive heard it from Rob Ramage, Godin and now some down at Centene, Mailloux is ready for the NHL. We all know there are growing pains with a young dman no need to beat this to death anymore we'll see it soon enough
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StlFanInVA wrote: 28 Aug 2025 05:35 am
theograce wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:07 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 27 Aug 2025 10:57 am that can't possibly be a serious comment
maybe it's not an all the time thing, but in this thread alone, ripping on buchy and now making some pretty wild statements on comps on a recent acquisition. overexaggeration by my part on "always" hating, but you didn't respond 1 time defending your buchy thoughts other than "feels" and now are setting an acquisition up for failure comparing him to a defender coming off a top 10 in the league defensive performance.

and the guy that seems to comment when you "log off" seems to be an interesting character.
Buchnevich was shredded by loads of Rangers fans. They couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. They all haters
I call [nonsense].
Please explain your comments. How many loads and fans per load? 2-3?
EVERY Ranger fan I know has been (upset) about losing Buch to St. Louis.
Meh, this guys responses like a few others are trash. Buchy is fine, hes a top line LW for Thomas. First you have to make the playoffs then as a unit the team has to learn how to win in the playoffs. I'll worry about Buch or any other Blues player's playoff performance when the Blues are there
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Re: So how good will Mailloux be?

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StlFanInVA wrote: 28 Aug 2025 05:35 am
theograce wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:07 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 27 Aug 2025 10:57 am that can't possibly be a serious comment
maybe it's not an all the time thing, but in this thread alone, ripping on buchy and now making some pretty wild statements on comps on a recent acquisition. overexaggeration by my part on "always" hating, but you didn't respond 1 time defending your buchy thoughts other than "feels" and now are setting an acquisition up for failure comparing him to a defender coming off a top 10 in the league defensive performance.

and the guy that seems to comment when you "log off" seems to be an interesting character.
Buchnevich was shredded by loads of Rangers fans. They couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. They all haters
I call [nonsense].
Please explain your comments. How many loads and fans per load? 2-3?
EVERY Ranger fan I know has been (upset) about losing Buch to St. Louis.
At least on reddit, the Rangers fans still aren't over the Buchy trade. Buchy was very adamant that he wasn't happy with the Rangers. He wasn't being utilized to his skill set so when he was traded to the Blues, it was a breath of fresh air for him. He's loved it in STL, and he's one of the funniest characters the Blues have. The locker room loves him, and for a guy like that to connect with the fans even with language barrier issues, it's nice. There are few people that I'd rather get a post game 1st star interview from than Buchy. Something always is going to trickle out that's worth a chuckle.

Rangers fans might not have been bummin when he left, but they certainly weren't happy. And now they realized what they had and gave it up for peanuts. They know they got fleeced. But that was a crowded locker room at the time of his departure.
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Harry S Deals wrote: 28 Aug 2025 09:16 am I know this much as fact, from Mailloux's workouts at Centene those around him like what they see, now (baby parayko). One step at a time. Ive heard it from Rob Ramage, Godin and now some down at Centene, Mailloux is ready for the NHL. We all know there are growing pains with a young dman no need to beat this to death anymore we'll see it soon enough
That is good to read. Not sure if Bouwmeester is in a consulting role, but I feel like he would be a good fit to mentor Mailloux. Not sure why, but I feel Mailloux is going to have a career path skills wise similar to Bouwmeester.
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oh weird it's almost like I accurately noticed he was being called 'baby parayko'

I guess some accountability for the shitposting is coming then ...
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StlFanInVA wrote: 28 Aug 2025 05:35 am
theograce wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:07 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 27 Aug 2025 10:57 am that can't possibly be a serious comment
maybe it's not an all the time thing, but in this thread alone, ripping on buchy and now making some pretty wild statements on comps on a recent acquisition. overexaggeration by my part on "always" hating, but you didn't respond 1 time defending your buchy thoughts other than "feels" and now are setting an acquisition up for failure comparing him to a defender coming off a top 10 in the league defensive performance.

and the guy that seems to comment when you "log off" seems to be an interesting character.
Buchnevich was shredded by loads of Rangers fans. They couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. They all haters
I call [nonsense].
Please explain your comments. How many loads and fans per load? 2-3?
EVERY Ranger fan I know has been (upset) about losing Buch to St. Louis.
Do you even know the history why they traded Buchnevich for a cup of coffee or do you think it was just some fleece by the blues?
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Re: So how good will Mailloux be?

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theograce wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:13 am
StlFanInVA wrote: 28 Aug 2025 05:35 am
theograce wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:07 am
callitwhatyouwant wrote: 27 Aug 2025 11:05 am
seattleblue wrote: 27 Aug 2025 10:57 am that can't possibly be a serious comment
maybe it's not an all the time thing, but in this thread alone, ripping on buchy and now making some pretty wild statements on comps on a recent acquisition. overexaggeration by my part on "always" hating, but you didn't respond 1 time defending your buchy thoughts other than "feels" and now are setting an acquisition up for failure comparing him to a defender coming off a top 10 in the league defensive performance.

and the guy that seems to comment when you "log off" seems to be an interesting character.
Buchnevich was shredded by loads of Rangers fans. They couldn’t get rid of him fast enough. They all haters
I call [nonsense].
Please explain your comments. How many loads and fans per load? 2-3?
EVERY Ranger fan I know has been (upset) about losing Buch to St. Louis.
Do you even know the history why they traded Buchnevich for a cup of coffee or do you think it was just some fleece by the blues?
I don’t know what you’re talking about. Please enlighten us.
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dr0zombie wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:05 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 28 Aug 2025 09:16 am I know this much as fact, from Mailloux's workouts at Centene those around him like what they see, now (baby parayko). One step at a time. Ive heard it from Rob Ramage, Godin and now some down at Centene, Mailloux is ready for the NHL. We all know there are growing pains with a young dman no need to beat this to death anymore we'll see it soon enough
That is good to read. Not sure if Bouwmeester is in a consulting role, but I feel like he would be a good fit to mentor Mailloux. Not sure why, but I feel Mailloux is going to have a career path skills wise similar to Bouwmeester.
Bouw was known for his defensive ability and as being one of the best skaters of his era. Mailloux’s main strength is his offense. His D needs work and he’s an average skater. Stylistically, I see very few similarities.

Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
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STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am
dr0zombie wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:05 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 28 Aug 2025 09:16 am I know this much as fact, from Mailloux's workouts at Centene those around him like what they see, now (baby parayko). One step at a time. Ive heard it from Rob Ramage, Godin and now some down at Centene, Mailloux is ready for the NHL. We all know there are growing pains with a young dman no need to beat this to death anymore we'll see it soon enough
That is good to read. Not sure if Bouwmeester is in a consulting role, but I feel like he would be a good fit to mentor Mailloux. Not sure why, but I feel Mailloux is going to have a career path skills wise similar to Bouwmeester.
Bouw was known for his defensive ability and as being one of the best skaters of his era. Mailloux’s main strength is his offense. His D needs work and he’s an average skater. Stylistically, I see very few similarities.

Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
Agreed that’s how it played out, but early on people were expecting Bo to be much more offensive than he was.

Nothing like Mail stylistically though
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STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
Because a lot of people don't regularly watch games beyond their own home team.
Comparing Mailloux to Souray might be extremely accurate; but a lot of people didn't watch Souray consistently enough to really grasp the comparison.
Compare Mailloux to a former Blue and even casual fans can understand the reference.

The problem is; there really isn't a "good" comparison for Mailloux in Blues history. Certainly not in recent Blues history. You'd probably have to go all the way back to Rob Ramage in the 80's(40+ years ago) for a Blues player that was close.
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kimzey59 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:34 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
Because a lot of people don't regularly watch games beyond their own home team.
Comparing Mailloux to Souray might be extremely accurate; but a lot of people didn't watch Souray consistently enough to really grasp the comparison.
Compare Mailloux to a former Blue and even casual fans can understand the reference.

The problem is; there really isn't a "good" comparison for Mailloux in Blues history. Certainly not in recent Blues history. You'd probably have to go all the way back to Rob Ramage in the 80's(40+ years ago) for a Blues player that was close.
How close to Ramage do you think he will become? Ramage was a good #1 defenseman
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kimzey59 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:34 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
Because a lot of people don't regularly watch games beyond their own home team.
Comparing Mailloux to Souray might be extremely accurate; but a lot of people didn't watch Souray consistently enough to really grasp the comparison.
Compare Mailloux to a former Blue and even casual fans can understand the reference.

The problem is; there really isn't a "good" comparison for Mailloux in Blues history. Certainly not in recent Blues history. You'd probably have to go all the way back to Rob Ramage in the 80's(40+ years ago) for a Blues player that was close.
This is probably very true. Many just watch the Blues and that’s fine.

I was going to say Jeff Brown but even that’s not a very good comp as he never brought the physical or meanness component I think Mailloux will bring.
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seattleblue wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:45 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:34 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
Because a lot of people don't regularly watch games beyond their own home team.
Comparing Mailloux to Souray might be extremely accurate; but a lot of people didn't watch Souray consistently enough to really grasp the comparison.
Compare Mailloux to a former Blue and even casual fans can understand the reference.

The problem is; there really isn't a "good" comparison for Mailloux in Blues history. Certainly not in recent Blues history. You'd probably have to go all the way back to Rob Ramage in the 80's(40+ years ago) for a Blues player that was close.
How close to Ramage do you think he will become? Ramage was a good #1 defenseman
Honestly, I could see the stat lines being pretty similar, especially if you're talking 82 game average(Ramage averaged 11 goals, 44 points, 175 PIMS and -14 per 82 games).
The PIM's will never come close to Ramage level(Mailloux has a very visible physical game but that's just not how the game is played these days), and I would certainly hope for a better +/-; but I can see the offense being pretty similar(average in the 40's with a few outlier seasons in the 60 range; basically Shattenkirk level offense).

I think hitting Ramage's 82 game average on a semi-regular basis would be a solid and attainable goal for Mailloux.
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kimzey59 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 13:02 pm
seattleblue wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:45 pm
kimzey59 wrote: 28 Aug 2025 12:34 pm
STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
Because a lot of people don't regularly watch games beyond their own home team.
Comparing Mailloux to Souray might be extremely accurate; but a lot of people didn't watch Souray consistently enough to really grasp the comparison.
Compare Mailloux to a former Blue and even casual fans can understand the reference.

The problem is; there really isn't a "good" comparison for Mailloux in Blues history. Certainly not in recent Blues history. You'd probably have to go all the way back to Rob Ramage in the 80's(40+ years ago) for a Blues player that was close.
How close to Ramage do you think he will become? Ramage was a good #1 defenseman
Honestly, I could see the stat lines being pretty similar, especially if you're talking 82 game average(Ramage averaged 11 goals, 44 points, 175 PIMS and -14 per 82 games).
The PIM's will never come close to Ramage level(Mailloux has a very visible physical game but that's just not how the game is played these days), and I would certainly hope for a better +/-; but I can see the offense being pretty similar(average in the 40's with a few outlier seasons in the 60 range; basically Shattenkirk level offense).

I think hitting Ramage's 82 game average on a semi-regular basis would be a solid and attainable goal for Mailloux.
I'd be pretty thrilled if he matched up to Ramage....but he might be a better goal scorer given similar pp time.

I'm looking for the Blues to hit a home run here......in time......I have to think they think they have a handle on this.
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STL fan in MN wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:43 am
dr0zombie wrote: 28 Aug 2025 10:05 am
Harry S Deals wrote: 28 Aug 2025 09:16 am I know this much as fact, from Mailloux's workouts at Centene those around him like what they see, now (baby parayko). One step at a time. Ive heard it from Rob Ramage, Godin and now some down at Centene, Mailloux is ready for the NHL. We all know there are growing pains with a young dman no need to beat this to death anymore we'll see it soon enough
That is good to read. Not sure if Bouwmeester is in a consulting role, but I feel like he would be a good fit to mentor Mailloux. Not sure why, but I feel Mailloux is going to have a career path skills wise similar to Bouwmeester.
Bouw was known for his defensive ability and as being one of the best skaters of his era. Mailloux’s main strength is his offense. His D needs work and he’s an average skater. Stylistically, I see very few similarities.

Why do people consistently limit themselves to former Blues players when it comes to comps?
I think he may be better than a average skater
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