TAFKAP wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 19:27 pm
I think Colorado is seriously overrated. They haven't won squat since 2022 and every move they've made since has been a downgrade. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase, but, neither of their goalies have a career avg of .900 in the playoffs. Both had their best season in years last year. Will it last? I think Colorado is in for dark times. Hopefully.
The Avs will be dangerous as long as Mac does what he does, but eventually those legs are going to start to slow down.
They have Makar to re-sign and that's not going to be cheap and they have lost essentially all their depth.
Getting into a pissing match with Rantanen is going to end up being a very costly mistake.
I don't think they are heading for hard times in the next few years, but wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them make regular appearances as a wild card team.
I think that's a given. Talking in overall strength. Even when it appeared that the East had more talent, the dogs and harder style of play definitely was tilted west. Now it seems like they have the talent and the tougher teams. Except of course the Panthers.
TAFKAP wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 19:27 pm
I think Colorado is seriously overrated. They haven't won squat since 2022 and every move they've made since has been a downgrade. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase, but, neither of their goalies have a career avg of .900 in the playoffs. Both had their best season in years last year. Will it last? I think Colorado is in for dark times. Hopefully.
The Avs will be dangerous as long as Mac does what he does, but eventually those legs are going to start to slow down.
They have Makar to re-sign and that's not going to be cheap and they have lost essentially all their depth.
Getting into a pissing match with Rantanen is going to end up being a very costly mistake.
I don't think they are heading for hard times in the next few years, but wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them make regular appearances as a wild card team.
I think it's going to be worse than that. Nate's getting old and Rantanen is gone. Landy is broken, and the goalie situation is, creative. I see them at about the same arc as the Pens circa 2019. They are 2 years from missing the playoffs for several years. IMHO as usual.
TAFKAP wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 19:27 pm
I think Colorado is seriously overrated. They haven't won squat since 2022 and every move they've made since has been a downgrade. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase, but, neither of their goalies have a career avg of .900 in the playoffs. Both had their best season in years last year. Will it last? I think Colorado is in for dark times. Hopefully.
The Avs will be dangerous as long as Mac does what he does, but eventually those legs are going to start to slow down.
They have Makar to re-sign and that's not going to be cheap and they have lost essentially all their depth.
Getting into a pissing match with Rantanen is going to end up being a very costly mistake.
I don't think they are heading for hard times in the next few years, but wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them make regular appearances as a wild card team.
I think it's going to be worse than that. Nate's getting old and Rantanen is gone. Landy is broken, and the goalie situation is, creative. I see them at about the same arc as the Pens circa 2019. They are 2 years from missing the playoffs for several years. IMHO as usual.
This is all true but you did neglect to mention the d-man most would consider to be the best d-man in the world…
That said, I agree with you that they’re on the downfall. I think they’ll be pretty good still this season but you can see it coming.
TAFKAP wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 19:27 pm
I think Colorado is seriously overrated. They haven't won squat since 2022 and every move they've made since has been a downgrade. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase, but, neither of their goalies have a career avg of .900 in the playoffs. Both had their best season in years last year. Will it last? I think Colorado is in for dark times. Hopefully.
The Avs will be dangerous as long as Mac does what he does, but eventually those legs are going to start to slow down.
They have Makar to re-sign and that's not going to be cheap and they have lost essentially all their depth.
Getting into a pissing match with Rantanen is going to end up being a very costly mistake.
I don't think they are heading for hard times in the next few years, but wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them make regular appearances as a wild card team.
I think it's going to be worse than that. Nate's getting old and Rantanen is gone. Landy is broken, and the goalie situation is, creative. I see them at about the same arc as the Pens circa 2019. They are 2 years from missing the playoffs for several years. IMHO as usual.
I can see that happening but not quite that quickly. MacKinnon is only 29 so he still has 4-5 more seasons of top 10 scoring in him minimum.
Makar will continue to be an absolute stud, but their depth is just so bad now.
Maybe Blackwood has figured something out, he did have a really solid end to the season, but who knows.
I do fully believe however that their days of absolutely dominating the central are done for the most part though.
Very few draft picks, very little in the way of prospects and their top players are getting close to being 30 and older.
I don't see a Dallas 2017 type of draft coming in their very near future as they just don't have the draft capital.
No matter what it takes to get into the playoffs, what will determine how deep we go is the middle six.. Losing Holloway destroyed us. that can’t happen again. Suter and Bjugstad should help.
Does Sunny have enough in his rusty Volvo tank to play RW on line three or to center line four?
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:39 pm
i will jump past the playoffs for an observation.
No matter what it takes to get into the playoffs, what will determine how deep we go is the middle six.. Losing Holloway destroyed us. That can’t happen again. Suter and Bjugstad should help.
Does Sunny have enough in his rusty Volvo tank to play RW on line three or to center line four?
It would have been asking for way too much, but that would have been the time for mortal-lock HOF'er Bolduc to have ...done something. He hit people, but he is still learning when to hit and when to make a play.
I don't dislike Bolduc, but I am glad we have Mailloux.
TAFKAP wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 19:27 pm
I think Colorado is seriously overrated. They haven't won squat since 2022 and every move they've made since has been a downgrade. Couldn't happen to a more deserving fanbase, but, neither of their goalies have a career avg of .900 in the playoffs. Both had their best season in years last year. Will it last? I think Colorado is in for dark times. Hopefully.
The Avs will be dangerous as long as Mac does what he does, but eventually those legs are going to start to slow down.
They have Makar to re-sign and that's not going to be cheap and they have lost essentially all their depth.
Getting into a pissing match with Rantanen is going to end up being a very costly mistake.
I don't think they are heading for hard times in the next few years, but wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them make regular appearances as a wild card team.
I think it's going to be worse than that. Nate's getting old and Rantanen is gone. Landy is broken, and the goalie situation is, creative. I see them at about the same arc as the Pens circa 2019. They are 2 years from missing the playoffs for several years. IMHO as usual.
This is all true but you did neglect to mention the d-man most would consider to be the best d-man in the world…
That said, I agree with you that they’re on the downfall. I think they’ll be pretty good still this season but you can see it coming.
He is still Cale Makar, but he can't do it alone. The Pens had Sid, Geno and Letang but couldn't win anything 3 years after their last Cup win. Then Father Time caught Geno like it's catching Landy, but Landy wasn't a 90 point 2C to start. The biggest issue is Colorado has no draft picks. This year they didn't draft until the 3rd round, next year it's not until the 4th. Both of their goalies have a sub .900 sv% career wise in the playoffs, if we were talking about the Blues, I'd be terrified about the future. One and Done.
Colorado looks like a beatable first round opponent for someone. Winnipeg isn't for real. Dallas keeps coming up short in the postseason. This is not the time of playoff world beaters in our division. Some tough teams yes but this isn't Florida or Edmonton round 1.
Harry York 37 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:39 pm
i will jump past the playoffs for an observation.
No matter what it takes to get into the playoffs, what will determine how deep we go is the middle six.. Losing Holloway destroyed us. That can’t happen again. Suter and Bjugstad should help.
Does Sunny have enough in his rusty Volvo tank to play RW on line three or to center line four?
It would have been asking for way too much, but that would have been the time for mortal-lock HOF'er Bolduc to have ...done something. He hit people, but he is still learning when to hit and when to make a play.
I don't dislike Bolduc, but I am glad we have Mailloux.
Same. I cant wait to watch Mailloux shootin bombs as well as throwin them. I have a feeling he’s going to be even more physical than he usually is, just cause either consciously or unconsciously, he’s going to want to impress his new coaches, teammates and fans. It’s going to be fun watching him develop.
What's crazy is you need to go rewatch the game 7. The Blues had a chance to go up like 4-0 with just harder play and less mistakes than what the Jets were doing. and their first goal had to be the most amazing tip of all time. And then their next 3 goals were basically god's will hah. You hope that those types of backbreakers make the team better and gives them a vengeance tour.
My hope is that the team comes out with some juice. If we don't make the playoffs because we aren't good enough, so be it. I know we are in that discovery period where we have some guys that have real experience, and then a ton of youth. That is the fun part. But it would be awesome to see them come out and establish themselves in say the first 20-28 games. Put themselves in a top 4-5 spot and see what they do with that kind of target on their back. Last season, I feel like we played everyone tough, but we didn't necessarily get everyones best day.
