Thats being kind.An Old Friend wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 18:02 pmThe OP is just verbal diarrheaimadangman wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 16:51 pm You called it Bloom speak but all I see are quotes from Katie Woo and Buster Olney (Buster Olney?). Where did Bloom speak?
By the way, does it tell you something about Buster Olney that he works for ESPN? The network that is no longer going to cover baseball?
I thought your second paragraph was something from Woo but it looks like that's just Cardly speak.
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BrockFloodMaris
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Which ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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Re: Bloomer Speak
His childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pmC-H-A-I-M.Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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desertrat23
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It really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 amHis childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pmC-H-A-I-M.Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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Remember when Cardly wanted the Cards to sign Trevor Story. We all told him he was = to Paul DeJong outside of Coors Field and he just couldn't believe it. And now in his 4th season with Boston (with a lot of games missed) Story has a very PDJ-like .244/.300/.412 batting line.
Cardly is the quintessential shiny object poster where the shiny object always has to be some well-known (and likely declining and overpaid) name from another team that he knows nothing about other than the player's name and that they are "established"
I'd be curious what his plan is to contend for 2026. Where is he getting his #3 hitter, #4 hitter, and #2 starter?
Cardly is the quintessential shiny object poster where the shiny object always has to be some well-known (and likely declining and overpaid) name from another team that he knows nothing about other than the player's name and that they are "established"
I'd be curious what his plan is to contend for 2026. Where is he getting his #3 hitter, #4 hitter, and #2 starter?
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Re: Bloomer Speak
Yes they dodesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 amIt really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 amHis childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pmC-H-A-I-M.Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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Re: Bloomer Speak
google is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decadeBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pmWhich ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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Re: Bloomer Speak
C-H-A-I-M.dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 amgoogle is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decadeBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pmWhich ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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Try again (and the M. Betts trade was forced upon him by the owner) CHAIM (BTW same real first name of GENE SIMMONS from KISS) made some brilliant trades:dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 amgoogle is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decadeBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pmWhich ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
1)
Nick Piveta/SP
for
Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree
2)
Kyle Schwarber (aka TGKS)
for
Aldo Ramirez
3)
Wilyer Abreu
2025: 20 HRs/.808 OPS/121 OPS+
for
Christian Vázquez
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The Bad Tradesrockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:46 amTry again (and the M. Betts trade was forced upon him by the owner) CHAIM (BTW same real first name of GENE SIMMONS from KISS) made some brilliant trades:dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 amgoogle is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decadeBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pmWhich ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
1)
Nick Piveta/SP
for
Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree
2)
Kyle Schwarber (aka TGKS)
for
Aldo Ramirez
3)
Wilyer Abreu
2025: 20 HRs/.808 OPS/121 OPS+
for
Christian Vázquez
1) Mookie Betts and David Price and cash for Alex Verdugo, Connor Wong and Jeter Downs
It’s a given that this trade was forced upon Bloom by ownership and he was merely carrying out orders. But he failed to get enough back for a generational player. Verdugo has been only slightly better than average while Wong is an adequate major league catcher. Downs flopped and is out of the organization. Fairly or not, this deal will go down as the most memorable of his tenure in Boston — and Bloom failed to maximize the return.
2) Traded Hunter Renfroe for Jackie Bradley Jr., David Hamilton and Alex Binelas
A disaster, no matter which way you cut it. While Renfroe was overrated by many, Bradley was essentially done when he was reacquired. Hamilton would seem to be a 4A player at best with speed and not much else to recommend about his game. Binelas is a fringy minor leaguer who is unlikely to contribute much — if anything — at the major league level.
3) Traded Jeffrey Springs and Chris Mazza for Ronaldo Hernandez and Nick Sogard
Bloom obtained Springs for Sam Travis in a deal with the Rangers and should have stopped there. Instead, he then turned around and packaged him for a catcher who hasn’t gotten out of Triple A after three seasons and a minor league utility player. The irony was that Bloom was supposed to be the one acquiring unheralded pitching prospects and developing them, not giving them away.
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Re: Bloomer Speak
There is no plan to contend in 2026. If you’re hoping to hear one, you may need to recalibrateimadangman wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:03 am Remember when Cardly wanted the Cards to sign Trevor Story. We all told him he was = to Paul DeJong outside of Coors Field and he just couldn't believe it. And now in his 4th season with Boston (with a lot of games missed) Story has a very PDJ-like .244/.300/.412 batting line.
Cardly is the quintessential shiny object poster where the shiny object always has to be some well-known (and likely declining and overpaid) name from another team that he knows nothing about other than the player's name and that they are "established"
I'd be curious what his plan is to contend for 2026. Where is he getting his #3 hitter, #4 hitter, and #2 starter?
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Your hypocrisy is showing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:30 amYes they dodesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 amIt really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 amHis childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pmC-H-A-I-M.Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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How so?riff raff wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 amYour hypocrisy is showing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:30 amYes they dodesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 amIt really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 amHis childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pmC-H-A-I-M.Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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and it is pronounced ... High Emdesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:41 amC-H-A-I-M.dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 amgoogle is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decadeBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pmWhich ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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rockondlouie
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Re: Bloomer Speak
-Bettsdugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:02 amThe Bad Tradesrockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:46 amTry again (and the M. Betts trade was forced upon him by the owner) CHAIM (BTW same real first name of GENE SIMMONS from KISS) made some brilliant trades:dugoutrex wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:32 amgoogle is your friend - High Em had a hand in most of their worst deals of the last decadeBrockFloodMaris wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 20:00 pmWhich ones?dugoutrex wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:41 pmdon't kid yourself - he made plenty of bad trades while with BostonCardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
1)
Nick Piveta/SP
for
Brandon Workman and Heath Hembree
2)
Kyle Schwarber (aka TGKS)
for
Aldo Ramirez
3)
Wilyer Abreu
2025: 20 HRs/.808 OPS/121 OPS+
for
Christian Vázquez
1) Mookie Betts and David Price and cash for Alex Verdugo, Connor Wong and Jeter Downs
It’s a given that this trade was forced upon Bloom by ownership and he was merely carrying out orders. But he failed to get enough back for a generational player. Verdugo has been only slightly better than average while Wong is an adequate major league catcher. Downs flopped and is out of the organization. Fairly or not, this deal will go down as the most memorable of his tenure in Boston — and Bloom failed to maximize the return.
2) Traded Hunter Renfroe for Jackie Bradley Jr., David Hamilton and Alex Binelas
A disaster, no matter which way you cut it. While Renfroe was overrated by many, Bradley was essentially done when he was reacquired. Hamilton would seem to be a 4A player at best with speed and not much else to recommend about his game. Binelas is a fringy minor leaguer who is unlikely to contribute much — if anything — at the major league level.
3) Traded Jeffrey Springs and Chris Mazza for Ronaldo Hernandez and Nick Sogard
Bloom obtained Springs for Sam Travis in a deal with the Rangers and should have stopped there. Instead, he then turned around and packaged him for a catcher who hasn’t gotten out of Triple A after three seasons and a minor league utility player. The irony was that Bloom was supposed to be the one acquiring unheralded pitching prospects and developing them, not giving them away.
Forced upon him by ownership after they declined to let him extend him and every team in MLB knew it.
NO WAY you were getting value back from any team.
-H. Renfroe---
Since being dealt by BoSox:
.236 .299 .422 .722
-Springs was coming off a HORRIFFIC 2020 season w/the BoSox where he posted a sterling 7.08 ERA/1.82 WHiP and Mazza a 4.80 ERA/1.63 WHiP!
Yea they had some BIG TRADE value
Try again, you're failing miserably.
Now go back and look at the THREE STEALS Bloom made for NOTHING.
Re: Bloomer Speak
Was I responding to you?desertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:13 amHow so?riff raff wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 11:08 amYour hypocrisy is showing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 10:30 amYes they dodesertrat23 wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:32 amIt really is. We’ve seen a couple of folks already making jokes about the guy’s name. They know what they’re doing.rockondlouie wrote: ↑27 Aug 2025 09:20 amHis childish attempt at (failed) humor before the man has spent one day in the POBO office and in charge.desertrat23 wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:26 pmC-H-A-I-M.Cardly wrote: ↑26 Aug 2025 15:20 pm Heim Bloomer speak: Katie Woo and others are already saying it...
He will sell of other pieces this winter and hope to get more children for the minors.
He will build up the minors and hope players emerge over time.
He will add MLB talent only when necessary and will use those adds as supplemental.
It will be YEARS before the Cards return to relevance.
Buster Olney said: Hein the Bloomer was hesitant to make trades while with the Red Sox. Buster said he will be interested to see if he is hesitant here as well. Mo seemed to have no idea how to make a trade. It will be interesting to see if this guy does or if it is more of the same with a different sweater.
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