Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
I think Gray finally gets traded.
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Thanks SideshowMelville wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:04 pmLars the Human Sushi-baar.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 17:28 pm The most talked about potential move this offseason will probably be Arenado.
Biggest need? Clearly a SP(maybe two?) although I think they sign a veteran also.
I expect a Catcher(or two?) to be dealt.
Also an OF.
I would deal Nootbaar before he sinks to zero trade value.
He is a tease. Can’t stay healthy and has mini hot streaks just often enough to keep you interested.
Like I said....a tease!
Always leaves an empty feeling, always a desire for something with more substance.
I have understood his game with perfection for the past 4 seasons.
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Yawn.Melville wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:04 pmLars the Human Sushi-baar.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 17:28 pm The most talked about potential move this offseason will probably be Arenado.
Biggest need? Clearly a SP(maybe two?) although I think they sign a veteran also.
I expect a Catcher(or two?) to be dealt.
Also an OF.
I would deal Nootbaar before he sinks to zero trade value.
He is a tease. Can’t stay healthy and has mini hot streaks just often enough to keep you interested.
Like I said....a tease!
Always leaves an empty feeling, always a desire for something with more substance.
I have understood his game with perfection for the past 4 seasons.
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Exactly.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:36 pmYawn.Melville wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 18:04 pmLars the Human Sushi-baar.Cusecards wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 17:28 pm The most talked about potential move this offseason will probably be Arenado.
Biggest need? Clearly a SP(maybe two?) although I think they sign a veteran also.
I expect a Catcher(or two?) to be dealt.
Also an OF.
I would deal Nootbaar before he sinks to zero trade value.
He is a tease. Can’t stay healthy and has mini hot streaks just often enough to keep you interested.
Like I said....a tease!
Always leaves an empty feeling, always a desire for something with more substance.
I have understood his game with perfection for the past 4 seasons.
Boring player will almost no upside.
Nothing more than roster filler depth.
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Biggest trade?
Let’s skip Arenado. No longer a big deal.
Big deal…..what about Winn as part of a package?
Let’s skip Arenado. No longer a big deal.
Big deal…..what about Winn as part of a package?
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Nootbaar + Crooks
for
Chris Bubic
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Chris Bubic
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
I think Sonny stays. My guess is that Bloom will be able to move Nado and maybe WC. Mo’s sideways roster construction will begin to transform into Bloom’s. I’m guessing it will be more athletic and will also have a cleanup hitter. I’m sure his focus will be on pitching, and cost controlled SPs are expensive.
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Depends on what manager he brings in. An established hard nosed MLB manager with experience is needed, not everybody’s buddy as is the case now
Arenado and Gray will waive their NTC, Gray to Atlanta is my prediction, and Arenado to wherever some sucker will bite, might have to eat some salary
I would also trade one or two of Burleson, Noot and Donovan for pitching.
This team is woefully short on pitching
Arenado and Gray will waive their NTC, Gray to Atlanta is my prediction, and Arenado to wherever some sucker will bite, might have to eat some salary
I would also trade one or two of Burleson, Noot and Donovan for pitching.
This team is woefully short on pitching
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
I hope he calls the Twins. They clearly want to cut payroll.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:43 pm One of:
Noot
Donny
Burleson
+
Catching Prospect or even I. Hererra if he insist on catching
for
#2 level Starting Pitcher w/years of control!
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Plan A: Kick the tires on Joe Ryan. Going to take more than the above package though. Two more years of arbitration control. But there’s your #1.
Plan B: Pablo Lopez, assuming he finishes the season healthy. He’s owed $21m each of next two seasons. Slightly more than we paid Mikolas but actually is a #2.
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
He'll have to give to get. Guys like Nootbaar fetch nothing. And I seriously doubt he trades Crooks in a rebuild. Not yet anyway. That would mean another year of Pages/Pozo at C because Bernal isn't ready. Maybe Crooks gets traded next offseason unless he makes himself invaluable to the Cardinals.
I'm thinking Donovan has to be on the block. He has value -- but only 2 more years of control and shows no inclination to sign an extension. And now, I'm not even sure Bloom would offer one or be allowed to offer one. But whom to package with with Donovan to net a young stud starter with years of control because Donovan alone won't get such a deal done? Of course, Noot or Saggese could be a throw-in, but perhaps Walker could clinch the deal if the trading partner in question wants to take a flier on untapping his potential at still a young age.
Just spitballing here.
I'm thinking Donovan has to be on the block. He has value -- but only 2 more years of control and shows no inclination to sign an extension. And now, I'm not even sure Bloom would offer one or be allowed to offer one. But whom to package with with Donovan to net a young stud starter with years of control because Donovan alone won't get such a deal done? Of course, Noot or Saggese could be a throw-in, but perhaps Walker could clinch the deal if the trading partner in question wants to take a flier on untapping his potential at still a young age.
Just spitballing here.
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
By a #2 pitcher I pretty sure he is talking about a #2 as when you set on the toilet and take a #2 type pitcher. Good luck having any team give you a true #2 pitcher with years of control that doesn’t cost much salary wise for that proposed trade.moose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:47 pmwho is that pitcher?rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:43 pm One of:
Noot
Donny
Burleson
+
Catching Prospect or even I. Hererra if he insist on catching
for
#2 level Starting Pitcher w/years of control!
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Yea I knowscoutyjones2 wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:15 pmrockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 14:01 pmGood question M&Smoose-and-squirrel wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:47 pmwho is that pitcher?rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:43 pm One of:
Noot
Donny
Burleson
+
Catching Prospect or even I. Hererra if he insist on catching
for
#2 level Starting Pitcher w/years of control!
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In a perfect trade, I'd love to get B. Woo out of Seattle!![]()
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That's why I said "perfect trade" and "I'd love" knowing it would never happen.
Woo is a stud.
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
Ryan would be a great get, free agent in 2028 so you'd get at least one (maybe two if there's no lockout in 2027) season(s).WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 21:16 pmI hope he calls the Twins. They clearly want to cut payroll.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:43 pm One of:
Noot
Donny
Burleson
+
Catching Prospect or even I. Hererra if he insist on catching
for
#2 level Starting Pitcher w/years of control!
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Plan A: Kick the tires on Joe Ryan. Going to take more than the above package though. Two more years of arbitration control. But there’s your #1.
Plan B: Pablo Lopez, assuming he finishes the season healthy. He’s owed $21m each of next two seasons. Slightly more than we paid Mikolas but actually is a #2.
I've wanted Lopez since he was a Marlin, same age and contract status as Ryan.
Good calls Walt
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
India got Singer.icon wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 21:17 pm He'll have to give to get. Guys like Nootbaar fetch nothing. And I seriously doubt he trades Crooks in a rebuild. Not yet anyway. That would mean another year of Pages/Pozo at C because Bernal isn't ready. Maybe Crooks gets traded next offseason unless he makes himself invaluable to the Cardinals.
I'm thinking Donovan has to be on the block. He has value -- but only 2 more years of control and shows no inclination to sign an extension. And now, I'm not even sure Bloom would offer one or be allowed to offer one. But whom to package with with Donovan to net a young stud starter with years of control because Donovan alone won't get such a deal done? Of course, Noot or Saggese could be a throw-in, but perhaps Walker could clinch the deal if the trading partner in question wants to take a flier on untapping his potential at still a young age.
Just spitballing here.
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Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
I would think the Twins will be much more inclined to move Lopez because of his contract and their motivation to shed payroll. Plus side to that is if the Cards take on all the money, the package is more in line with your idea. Joe Ryan is going to take a haul.rockondlouie wrote: ↑25 Aug 2025 08:36 amRyan would be a great get, free agent in 2028 so you'd get at least one (maybe two if there's no lockout in 2027) season(s).WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 21:16 pmI hope he calls the Twins. They clearly want to cut payroll.rockondlouie wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 12:43 pm One of:
Noot
Donny
Burleson
+
Catching Prospect or even I. Hererra if he insist on catching
for
#2 level Starting Pitcher w/years of control!
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Plan A: Kick the tires on Joe Ryan. Going to take more than the above package though. Two more years of arbitration control. But there’s your #1.
Plan B: Pablo Lopez, assuming he finishes the season healthy. He’s owed $21m each of next two seasons. Slightly more than we paid Mikolas but actually is a #2.
I've wanted Lopez since he was a Marlin, same age and contract status as Ryan.
Good calls Walt
Re: Your anticipated biggest trade by Bloom this winter?
He never hesitates to tell everyone how [shirt]ty all the current players are, yet never holds the “architect” of this fiasco responsible.kscardsfan wrote: ↑24 Aug 2025 15:43 pmYou like this lineup? This is the result of the current regime.
Lars Nootbaar (L) CF
Iván Herrera (R) DH
Alec Burleson (L) LF
Willson Contreras (R) 1B
Nolan Gorman (L) 3B
Thomas Saggese (R) SS
Jordan Walker (R) RF
Pedro Pagés (R) C
José Fermín (R) 2B
Loves the FO but hates the players the FO provides.