What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

[Quincy Varnish]

Tommy Pham - Randall Grichuk. Similar players. Is Grichuk a cancer?

Randal Grichuk got a 5 year deal.

They are not similar players in terms of of where they were age wise when it came time for extensions or free agency. Grichuk was 27 when the Jays gave him that deal. Pham didn’t hit FA until he was 33, and age and his eye condition had to be major factors in why he never scored a long term deal… more so than his attitude, I’m sure.

The relief pitcher comp isn’t bad, considering where Pham has been in age and long-term viability over the last few years. Most competitive teams have younger players that they hope will be in their long term plans to start the season… not the type they want to block w/ a vet in his 30s. So it’s no mystery why teams gravitate towards guys like Pham when their prospects can’t cut it, or they want to add a bat for the stretch drive.

Plenty of guys with shitbucket attitudes get long-term contracts… because they’re younger and do not have degenerative eye conditions.

And don’t get stabbed… and in fights at strip clubs causing them to get stabbed again… and don’t slap players on the field over fantasy football… or feign JOing on the field at a fan.

But I digress.

You seriously think that’s a major factor in why Pham didn’t get a long term deal?

His on field scuffles were not common in his earlier years, so teams must have avoided him because he got stabbed?

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

[Cardinals4Life]

Tommy Pham - Randall Grichuk. Similar players. Is Grichuk a cancer?

Randal Grichuk got a 5 year deal.

They are not similar players in terms of of where they were age wise when it came time for extensions or free agency. Grichuk was 27 when the Jays gave him that deal. Pham didn’t hit FA until he was 33, and age and his eye condition had to be major factors in why he never scored a long term deal… more so than his attitude, I’m sure.

The relief pitcher comp isn’t bad, considering where Pham has been in age and long-term viability over the last few years. Most competitive teams have younger players that they hope will be in their long term plans to start the season… not the type they want to block w/ a vet in his 30s. So it’s no mystery why teams gravitate towards guys like Pham when their prospects can’t cut it, or they want to add a bat for the stretch drive.

Plenty of guys with shitbucket attitudes get long-term contracts… because they’re younger and do not have degenerative eye conditions.

And don’t get stabbed… and in fights at strip clubs causing them to get stabbed again… and don’t slap players on the field over fantasy football… or feign JOing on the field at a fan.

But I digress.

You seriously think that’s a major factor in why Pham didn’t get a long term deal?

His on field scuffles were not common in his earlier years, so teams must have avoided him because he got stabbed?

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

[Quincy Varnish]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

[Mort Gage]

The Cards have an off Saturday in Tampa, which must be America's Gentlemen Club capital by sheer quantity. I wouldn't be surprised if some Cardinals visited a few this afternoon.

[ecleme22]

Tommy Pham - Randall Grichuk. Similar players. Is Grichuk a cancer?

Randal Grichuk got a 5 year deal.

They are not similar players in terms of of where they were age wise when it came time for extensions or free agency. Grichuk was 27 when the Jays gave him that deal. Pham didn’t hit FA until he was 33, and age and his eye condition had to be major factors in why he never scored a long term deal… more so than his attitude, I’m sure.

The relief pitcher comp isn’t bad, considering where Pham has been in age and long-term viability over the last few years. Most competitive teams have younger players that they hope will be in their long term plans to start the season… not the type they want to block w/ a vet in his 30s. So it’s no mystery why teams gravitate towards guys like Pham when their prospects can’t cut it, or they want to add a bat for the stretch drive.

Plenty of guys with shitbucket attitudes get long-term contracts… because they’re younger and do not have degenerative eye conditions.

And don’t get stabbed… and in fights at strip clubs causing them to get stabbed again… and don’t slap players on the field over fantasy football… or feign JOing on the field at a fan.

But I digress.

You seriously think that’s a major factor in why Pham didn’t get a long term deal?

His on field scuffles were not common in his earlier years, so teams must have avoided him because he got stabbed?

Long term? I don’t consider a 2-3 year deal long term, and he didn’t get those, either. No one wanted to keep him around.

And they’re not gonna ish talk him because he’s a loose cannon and would probably stab them at some point. If you see a fire, you don’t throw gasoline on it to make it worse

Brad Miller is another who signed a bunch of one year deals with different teams. It’s not uncommon.

Miller, Grichuk, DeJong, Pham, etc.

Players who are good enough to earn a contract, but not good enough for a multi year deal.

It’s common.

Keep learning.

It’s pretty (drat) funny, honestly, that you just named 4 players and all of them but Pham had multi year deals in their career. Hell, you’ve droned on for years about DeJong’s! And now you pretend you don’t even remember it?

Good lord

DeJong is at a point in his career, like Pham, where he is good enough to get an mlb contract, but doesn’t have the production to warrant a multi-year deal.

Similar to Pham, as soon as DeJong his FA, he’s only been a one-year-deal guy.

Also, I like when you get animated. It means you have a weak argument and you know it.

[kscardsfan]

Tommy Pham - Randall Grichuk. Similar players. Is Grichuk a cancer?

stupid or trolling????

Have (bleep) more knowledge of baseball than you will ever know son. Grichuk has been around the last few. Have you been under a rock? stupid or trolling???

[Cardinals4Life]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

[Quincy Varnish]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

[Cardinals4Life]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

[Quincy Varnish]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

Teams have paid Tommy Pham $24,640,000 since that incident. You are pathetically clueless, as usual… guy.

[Cardinals4Life]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

Teams have paid Tommy Pham $24,640,000 since that incident. You are pathetically clueless, as usual… guy.

You would argue with a brick wall. It's okay to agree with someone sometimes. Never said he hasn't been paid by teams. Teams will always pay for talent. Simply said teams aren't LOOKING to give out LT contracts to guys who go around getting into altercations like Pham does. That isn't what any franchise wants out of guys they pay bigtime money to.

[Quincy Varnish]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

Teams have paid Tommy Pham $24,640,000 since that incident. You are pathetically clueless, as usual… guy.

You would argue with a brick wall. It's okay to agree with someone sometimes. Never said he hasn't been paid by teams. Teams will always pay for talent. Simply said teams aren't LOOKING to give out LT contracts to guys who go around getting into altercations like Pham does. That isn't what any franchise wants out of guys they pay bigtime money to.

Brick walls have more insight.

[Cardinals4Life]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

Teams have paid Tommy Pham $24,640,000 since that incident. You are pathetically clueless, as usual… guy.

You would argue with a brick wall. It's okay to agree with someone sometimes. Never said he hasn't been paid by teams. Teams will always pay for talent. Simply said teams aren't LOOKING to give out LT contracts to guys who go around getting into altercations like Pham does. That isn't what any franchise wants out of guys they pay bigtime money to.

Brick walls have more insight.

[Quincy Varnish]

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

Teams have paid Tommy Pham $24,640,000 since that incident. You are pathetically clueless, as usual… guy.

You would argue with a brick wall. It's okay to agree with someone sometimes. Never said he hasn't been paid by teams. Teams will always pay for talent. Simply said teams aren't LOOKING to give out LT contracts to guys who go around getting into altercations like Pham does. That isn't what any franchise wants out of guys they pay bigtime money to.

Brick walls have more insight.

As you clearly have a comprehensive understanding of what MLB teams will and will not do, please offer us some examples of multi-year contracts given to 33-year-old players with talent level comparable to Tommy Pham. This should be easy for someone with your level of expertise.

[ecleme22]

Teams don't typically want guys who get stabbed in altercstions at strip clubs on long term deals.

Baloney, guy.

Haha, so they do?!? Cool.

If teams had an aversion to guys that go to strip clubs, the major leagues would be exclusively populated by Girl Scouts and tired old farts like you.

Stupid post

It was catered for you

You have no clue, guy. It’s okay, though. Keep arguing that professional teams are dying to sign guys to long term contracts who get stabbed in altercations at strip clubs. Makes a lot of sense!

Time to learn:

2021:
1. Pham didn’t have a very good year in San Diego.
2. Pham would be a FA for the first time at season’s end.
3. Pham would turn 34 in March, 2022, making his first season to sign a FA deal as a 34 YEAR OLD.


So essentially you think it’s weird that:
1. A team didn’t give a 34 year old a LT contract after an okay season
2. Same for 35 year old
3. 36 year old…
4. 37 year old…


As you can see, DeJong and Grichuk, for example, are at the same point of their careers (and still younger than Pham when TP his free agency).

It ain’t weird.

[mudpuppy37]

Milton Bradley or Nyjer Morgan 2.0.