How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product? Should a real fan just suck it up and hang in patiently with "the team you love?" Clap obediently from the stands after another meltdown that seems to have no end? Is that our responsibility as serious fans, or is it our place to call out a train wreck in perpetual motion?
Respectfully, through many years, I cannot recall you ever saying anything about the team, management, or ownership that could be construed as critical or exasperated-something many of us have felt for sometime. I respect you as a lifelong Cardinal fan, and your willingness to engage with an often hostile audience, but there is a "Dear Leader" element on your perspective of DeWitt that seems to be always be there, you know?
But I digress.
How are we supposed to respond as fans to what we are seeing?
Satch -
What’s funny on here is that once a poster is “classified”
people only read what aligns with that classification.
I’ve actually been very critical about certain things over the years, but it’s not noticed because it doesn’t fit the “classification”. I criticized signing Leake. I criticized signing Fowler, and criticized him once he was here.
I criticized the signing of Cecil. I criticized the signing of
Miller. I was highly critical of the appointing of Oli Marmol as manager. He didn't deserve it in any way. If they wanted to stay inside for the move, the obvious choice was Stubby.
And I was highly critical of the appointment of Dusty Blake.
I shudder every time he walks out to the mound.
But also try to counter that with finding things in the organization to be upbeat about. Like what Church was doing at Memphis before being called up. Like Mathews leading the entire minor leagues in strike outs last season,
Like what JJ has been doing as he comes through the system. Like the way McGreevy is pitching in the majors now. Glimmers of hope that we will hopefully in the near future be back on track.
Wanna try answering his question his ?, which by the way, he asked twice?
I answered him precisely. Satch knows I did. Please stay out of it. All you’re looking for is negative horse manure
Dear forum nanny,
I'll engage in the conversation if I choose to, thank you very much.
You've frequently criticized fans for booing or not showing up to display your preferred level of support for the players.
As such, I think it only fair, Emily Post, that you enlighten us as to the proper way(s) we should express displeasure with an inferior product & indifferent leadership...as you were asked & did not answer.
What’s funny is that you somehow think I owe you something on this anonymous Cards forum, IC. Let me
educate you, sir. I owe you nothing. And vice versa.
How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product? Should a real fan just suck it up and hang in patiently with "the team you love?" Clap obediently from the stands after another meltdown that seems to have no end? Is that our responsibility as serious fans, or is it our place to call out a train wreck in perpetual motion?
Respectfully, through many years, I cannot recall you ever saying anything about the team, management, or ownership that could be construed as critical or exasperated-something many of us have felt for sometime. I respect you as a lifelong Cardinal fan, and your willingness to engage with an often hostile audience, but there is a "Dear Leader" element on your perspective of DeWitt that seems to be always be there, you know?
But I digress.
How are we supposed to respond as fans to what we are seeing?
Satch -
What’s funny on here is that once a poster is “classified”
people only read what aligns with that classification.
I’ve actually been very critical about certain things over the years, but it’s not noticed because it doesn’t fit the “classification”. I criticized signing Leake. I criticized signing Fowler, and criticized him once he was here.
I criticized the signing of Cecil. I criticized the signing of
Miller. I was highly critical of the appointing of Oli Marmol as manager. He didn't deserve it in any way. If they wanted to stay inside for the move, the obvious choice was Stubby.
And I was highly critical of the appointment of Dusty Blake.
I shudder every time he walks out to the mound.
But also try to counter that with finding things in the organization to be upbeat about. Like what Church was doing at Memphis before being called up. Like Mathews leading the entire minor leagues in strike outs last season,
Like what JJ has been doing as he comes through the system. Like the way McGreevy is pitching in the majors now. Glimmers of hope that we will hopefully in the near future be back on track.
Wanna try answering his question his ?, which by the way, he asked twice?
I answered him precisely. Satch knows I did. Please stay out of it. All you’re looking for is negative horse manure
Dear forum nanny,
I'll engage in the conversation if I choose to, thank you very much.
You've frequently criticized fans for booing or not showing up to display your preferred level of support for the players.
As such, I think it only fair, Emily Post, that you enlighten us as to the proper way(s) we should express displeasure with an inferior product & indifferent leadership...as you were asked & did not answer.
What’s funny is that you somehow think I owe you something on this anonymous Cards forum, IC. Let me
educate you, sir. I owe you nothing. And vice versa.
In addition, "nothing" is apparently what you have in the way of an answer to Satch's question.
How would you, as a fan, suggest expressing displeasure over the last few years of the Cardinal product? Should a real fan just suck it up and hang in patiently with "the team you love?" Clap obediently from the stands after another meltdown that seems to have no end? Is that our responsibility as serious fans, or is it our place to call out a train wreck in perpetual motion?
Respectfully, through many years, I cannot recall you ever saying anything about the team, management, or ownership that could be construed as critical or exasperated-something many of us have felt for sometime. I respect you as a lifelong Cardinal fan, and your willingness to engage with an often hostile audience, but there is a "Dear Leader" element on your perspective of DeWitt that seems to be always be there, you know?
But I digress.
How are we supposed to respond as fans to what we are seeing?
Satch -
What’s funny on here is that once a poster is “classified”
people only read what aligns with that classification.
I’ve actually been very critical about certain things over the years, but it’s not noticed because it doesn’t fit the “classification”. I criticized signing Leake. I criticized signing Fowler, and criticized him once he was here.
I criticized the signing of Cecil. I criticized the signing of
Miller. I was highly critical of the appointing of Oli Marmol as manager. He didn't deserve it in any way. If they wanted to stay inside for the move, the obvious choice was Stubby.
And I was highly critical of the appointment of Dusty Blake.
I shudder every time he walks out to the mound.
But also try to counter that with finding things in the organization to be upbeat about. Like what Church was doing at Memphis before being called up. Like Mathews leading the entire minor leagues in strike outs last season,
Like what JJ has been doing as he comes through the system. Like the way McGreevy is pitching in the majors now. Glimmers of hope that we will hopefully in the near future be back on track.
Wanna try answering his question his ?, which by the way, he asked twice?
I answered him precisely. Satch knows I did. Please stay out of it. All you’re looking for is negative horse manure
Cranny, I’m not sure you did answer me.
I get and appreciate the “hope thing.”
But you didn’t answer my question on Dewitt, which I am curious about. And you did not provide instruction on how we are supposed to, as fans, criticize the team in a productive manner. I’m still all respectful ears.
I answered you on a post I made at 20:10 this evening. Hope you’re enjoying the weekend.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
Yeah. The owner hasn’t earned customer support.
As a business owner your product is everything, It's obvious Trey and company don't really care right now and they are doubling down on a model that does NOT produce world series champions in this day and age. Attendance will continue to fall. . .
Colotiger wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 23:21 pm
Surely this can’t be a surprise to ownership but if it is, it even underscores even more how out of touch it has become.
Out of touch? They bring in Ozuna, Goldschmidt, Arenado, Gray, Contreras, etc. (and see Walker and Gorman backslide). It doesn’t work. So they change horses from Mo to Bloom to refresh the picture. Doesn’t seem out of touch to me.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
Boring team..no stars ..very unathletic....senile ownership...an arrogant MO-RAN who should have been fired yrs ago...and the fans have spoken this year...
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
Boring team..no stars ..very unathletic....senile ownership...an arrogant MO-RAN who should have been fired yrs ago...and the fans have spoken this year...
I was at a gathering yesterday and a friend has always gone to several to many games a year. I asked him if he was going to many games and he replied "no, they don't have any stars."
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
Still in the playoff hunt.
20 plus teams are in the playoff hunt. Where are we reference the final WC. That’s the important position.
With the way BB has priced itself out and the fact80% of the teams are irrelevant since there is NO Salary Cap it's no wonder. Surprised it took this long.
RIDICULOUS Player SALARIES.
RIDICULOUS OWNER PROFITS
General Concession Prices RIP OFF
Hot Dogs/Sandwiches: $ 9 -$ 15
Sodas: 20-ounce soda can range from $6.50 to $9.75.
Beer: $10 - $12
Snacks: Basic snacks like popcorn or peanuts $5.75.
Parking $20 - $40
F BB. I would rather cut the grass than waste a dime on BB ever.
Last edited by BobbyOrr on 24 Aug 2025 07:55 am, edited 1 time in total.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
Boring team..no stars ..very unathletic....senile ownership...an arrogant MO-RAN who should have been fired yrs ago...and the fans have spoken this year...
I was at a gathering yesterday and a friend has always gone to several to many games a year. I asked him if he was going to many games and he replied "no, they don't have any stars."
Too many catchers and DHs on the roster..outfield and starting pitching is a joke...a team only a front Office bootlicker could love.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
Still in the playoff hunt.
LOL. The watered-down playoffs are a joke.
Joke or not, they are what they are. The name of the game is to get into them. Even a team with only 83 regular season wins has won the World Championship. 5 over .500.
“Through 65 home games, the Cardinals have generated a total attendance of 1,873,875, based on the metric of tickets sold. Right now, that’s an average attendance of around 28,829. If that pace remains similar through the regular season’s end, the Cardinals are on pace for a season attendance of roughly 2,335,137.”
He also explained how this year’s trend would represent a historic low point for the franchise.
“That would mark the team’s lowest for a non-pandemic-restricted season since 1995, when the Cardinals drew a season attendance of 1,756,727. That season? The Cardinals only played 72 home games due to MLB scheduling arrangements out of a players’ strike and would have paced for around 1,976,318 in attendance.”
You should be happy and applaud this
Yes…
There seems to be a lot of focus on dwindling attendance….
For those who desire a new direction for the club it’s the best news they can receive..
+1
These owners have been asleep at the wheel for years
Oh I get it. Boycott the lousy .500 team that’s going through a transition year to allow younger players to mature - in order to show utter disgust.
It’s not a boycott….it’s a personal judgement that the entertainment value is less than the cost.
Not to pry, but how many other bad products do you buy?
Entertainment value is low. Costs are high. Cardinal game is slow. And they wonder why.
Still in the playoff hunt.
LOL. The watered-down playoffs are a joke.
Joke or not, they are what they are. The name of the game is to get into them. Even a team with only 83 regular season wins has won the World Championship. 5 over .500.
One. An 83 win team has won one WS. That’s next to zero. And if it wasn’t STL, you wouldn’t even reference it. Using the 83 as a debating position is treacherous at best.
