Some players can't handle heat and humidity
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Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
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Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
I’m sure it’s not your only rant. Seems in the old days they played many more day games. That lends to your debate- more heat plus sun. .OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 07:47 am Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
As far as thirties is concerned, in baseball that’s beginning to age. There isn’t much cardiovascular endurance in baseball. So just getting used to it is tough.
As for night games, I agree, as for a profession, they shouldn’t have an issue. And most don’t.
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Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Baseball players are in better shape now, than ever before...they are like peak racing cars...which also breakdown.
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A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
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My understanding is it’s an issue gripping the ball when he’s pouring sweat.Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
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They all can “handle” it. But you’re talking about the best of the best players at the skinny tail of a bell curve. If the heat impacts them negatively by 1% more than the 24 year old, that’s all it takes to be the difference between success and failure.OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 07:47 am Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
And you’re kidding yourself thinking construction workers are working at max output in the dead summer heat either. MLB players of all ages show up to work and do their best in conditions just like those guys.
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Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
This.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:28 amThey all can “handle” it. But you’re talking about the best of the best players at the skinny tail of a bell curve. If the heat impacts them negatively by 1% more than the 24 year old, that’s all it takes to be the difference between success and failure.
And you’re kidding yourself thinking construction workers are working at max output in the dead summer heat either. MLB players of all ages show up to work and do their best in conditions just like those guys.
Baseball is hard, folks.
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Hey, you Come in flat with that gravel and sand and the whole world notices.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:28 amThey all can “handle” it. But you’re talking about the best of the best players at the skinny tail of a bell curve. If the heat impacts them negatively by 1% more than the 24 year old, that’s all it takes to be the difference between success and failure.OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 07:47 am Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
And you’re kidding yourself thinking construction workers are working at max output in the dead summer heat either. MLB players of all ages show up to work and do their best in conditions just like those guys.
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I’m no professional athlete but I take my fitness very seriously and stay in shape lifting all the time. I also walk 18 holes every weekend. I’m just a couple years older than Sonny. My golf scores were noticeably higher in July because I’d be physically and mentally spent on the last 3-4 holes each round from being soaked in sweat and sun beaten.Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
Yeah you’d expect pro athletes to be better conditioned than a weekend hack like me, but they’re still human. Some people just sweat more than others or handle the heat/cold better than others. They’re not robots.
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Bob Feller once told me players today look like they are in shape, but they are not. Players today think lifting weights makes them look in shape. Players in the worked in the off season on real jobs like Richie Hebner who dug graves. Others worked on farms or had jobs that required strength.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:06 am Baseball players are in better shape now, than ever before...they are like peak racing cars...which also breakdown.
Again, just my opinion.
Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Certainly true but when he has a poor performance I just doubt this is the primary reason.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:32 amI’m no professional athlete but I take my fitness very seriously and stay in shape lifting all the time. I also walk 18 holes every weekend. I’m just a couple years older than Sonny. My golf scores were noticeably higher in July because I’d be physically and mentally spent on the last 3-4 holes each round from being soaked in sweat and sun beaten.Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
Yeah you’d expect pro athletes to be better conditioned than a weekend hack like me, but they’re still human. Some people just sweat more than others or handle the heat/cold better than others. They’re not robots.
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I spent 30 years calling on construction supply houses, architects, and contractors. I visited large commercial/civil jobsites probably 3-4 times a week.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:28 amThey all can “handle” it. But you’re talking about the best of the best players at the skinny tail of a bell curve. If the heat impacts them negatively by 1% more than the 24 year old, that’s all it takes to be the difference between success and failure.OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 07:47 am Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
And you’re kidding yourself thinking construction workers are working at max output in the dead summer heat either. MLB players of all ages show up to work and do their best in conditions just like those guys.
Those guys are freaking tough.
Ballplayers spend the day in the a/c then go into the heat for 3 hrs, while being able to duck into the a/c between innings.
So no their “conditions” are not like construction guys.
And I’m not dissing ball players, just stating facts.
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If players aren’t in better shape, then why are there guys today throwing 100mph on almost every team? Back in the 80s, throwing 90mph meant you were a fire baller. Back in the “glory days”’guys were smoking cigarettes, eating doughnuts, and swallowing gobs full of greenies. Please stop insulting the intelligence of people.OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:35 amBob Feller once told me players today look like they are in shape, but they are not. Players today think lifting weights makes them look in shape. Players in the worked in the off season on real jobs like Richie Hebner who dug graves. Others worked on farms or had jobs that required strength.scoutyjones2 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:06 am Baseball players are in better shape now, than ever before...they are like peak racing cars...which also breakdown.
Again, just my opinion.
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S. Gray's issues w/the heat is he can't get a good grip.Jatalk wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:16 am A lot of folks are claiming SG can’t handle the heat. I doubt his endurance is much less than any other player. I agree players are in much better shape now than ever before. I know us old timers want to say we were tougher, lived in harder times, etc. let’s give it a break.
His decline is due to this ....36 yrs old in Nov.
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Re: Some players can't handle heat and humidity
Most certainly. I’m a white collar guy but my company has manufacturing facilities in STL that are not centrally heated or cooled. Wouldn’t trade jobs with those dudes ever. Respect for what they put up with and do. But I can tell you, the extreme temps absolutely impact their productivity on the floor. And I get it. Totally normal and reasonable to think it would.Bomber1 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:37 amI spent 30 years calling on construction supply houses, architects, and contractors. I visited large commercial/civil jobsites probably 3-4 times a week.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:28 amThey all can “handle” it. But you’re talking about the best of the best players at the skinny tail of a bell curve. If the heat impacts them negatively by 1% more than the 24 year old, that’s all it takes to be the difference between success and failure.OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 07:47 am Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
And you’re kidding yourself thinking construction workers are working at max output in the dead summer heat either. MLB players of all ages show up to work and do their best in conditions just like those guys.
Those guys are freaking tough.
Ballplayers spend the day in the a/c then go into the heat for 3 hrs, while being able to duck into the a/c between innings.
So no their “conditions” are not like construction guys.
And I’m not dissing ball players, just stating facts.
Yet MLB players are still expect to perform at elite levels regardless. I have a lot of union guys who move at half speed in those conditions. It was just a weird comparison by the OP to me.
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Thank you.Bomber1 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:37 amI spent 30 years calling on construction supply houses, architects, and contractors. I visited large commercial/civil jobsites probably 3-4 times a week.WaltsSuccessor wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 08:28 amThey all can “handle” it. But you’re talking about the best of the best players at the skinny tail of a bell curve. If the heat impacts them negatively by 1% more than the 24 year old, that’s all it takes to be the difference between success and failure.OldRed wrote: ↑23 Aug 2025 07:47 am Such a shame some players in their 30's can't handle heat and humidity. What if they worked outside on concrete jobs or road jobs for 8 hours in the heat of the day like so many in our hot humid summers.
Also, think of years past when most games were played in the daytime.
My rant for today.
And you’re kidding yourself thinking construction workers are working at max output in the dead summer heat either. MLB players of all ages show up to work and do their best in conditions just like those guys.
Those guys are freaking tough.
Ballplayers spend the day in the a/c then go into the heat for 3 hrs, while being able to duck into the a/c between innings.
So no their “conditions” are not like construction guys.
And I’m not dissing ball players, just stating facts.
My Dad worked in a steel mill and came home to a hot house without air conditioning. Many of those workers also played fast pitch softball 3 to 5 times a week in the evenings and weekends.