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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
Volatile is the single, best description. I would do anything possible to avoid any interaction with that man.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
If you couldn’t read it you’re a bigger idiot than I thought and you’re a smug arrogant asssssshole you’re just mad because you were wrong about him being a bad teammate that’s a big blow to that massive ego of yours
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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Francis Park Thug wrote: 22 Aug 2025 12:13 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Ummm... he's ALWAYS been this guy. Totally unhinged and an asssshole... product of his upbringing.

Talented enough to have a long career.
Too big of a jackwagon for anyone to keep him around for any time whatsoever - he's a cancer.

10 teams in 12 seasons
Where's ecleme to defend? :lol:
Ecleme - “Tommy Pham was marginalized.”
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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On the "injured" while in the minors, it had to do with attempting to getting his sight corrected. The guy shouldn't have been able to play baseball at the high school or college level, much less the major league level. He changed contacts regularly to adjust for his eyes shifting.

His upbringing was tough, but that tough allowed him to stay in baseball when the average major leaguer would have quit.

I personally like his fire, could have lived with less $%^&*), but he could play baseball - hit, speed, arm, defense, along with some power.
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DwaininAztec wrote: 22 Aug 2025 15:06 pm On the "injured" while in the minors, it had to do with attempting to getting his sight corrected. The guy shouldn't have been able to play baseball at the high school or college level, much less the major league level. He changed contacts regularly to adjust for his eyes shifting.
2010 - fracture in wrist
2011 - torn ligaments in wrist
2012 - torn labrum in left shoulder
2013 - torn labrum in right shoulder
2015 - strained left quad
2016 - strained oblique during batting practice on Opening Day (had made MLB team)

I'm curious as to how you're associating these... and really any of them... to his eyesight?
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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ShakeyWalton wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
Volatile is the single, best description. I would do anything possible to avoid any interaction with that man.
Don't tell ozzie that, he thinks Pham is the bestest teammate a guy could ever dream of :lol:
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 15:14 pm
ShakeyWalton wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
Volatile is the single, best description. I would do anything possible to avoid any interaction with that man.
Don't tell ozzie that, he thinks Pham is the bestest teammate a guy could ever dream of :lol:
Did you notice in the video how the Pirate players all went up to Pham instead of engaging with any of the Blue Jays? The guy is a known psycho.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
He sounds like a good guy from the Rosenthal article.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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ecleme22 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 15:39 pm He sounds like a good guy from the Rosenthal article.
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 15:14 pm
ShakeyWalton wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:31 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:26 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:15 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:11 pm
Ozziesfan41 wrote: 22 Aug 2025 14:05 pm
An Old Friend wrote: 22 Aug 2025 13:27 pm
Strummer Jones wrote: 22 Aug 2025 11:23 am Tommy had a real rough upbringing. But his problem is that he makes it everyone else's problem.

I don't know if he knows that or not. He doesn't seem to be particularly self-aware.
His mom was 17 when he was born and didn't finish high school
His dad was 19 and incarcerated when he was born
Pham's stepfather stabbed him during a fight
He was a good pitching prospect in high school but barely pitched his senior year because he didn't like it
Hurt a TON as he came up through the minors... but still blamed the organization for holding him back and demanded his release in 2014.
Think he's one of the smartest players in the game:
I’m probably one of the one percent of the game that understands the sabermetrics.
Got in a fight outside a strip club and was stabbed... AGAIN... and required 200 stitches. TWO HUNDRED.
Reiterated to everyone, as if they didn't know, that he only cares about himself:
I’m playing to get my numbers. I don’t care about anything else. I got to look out for me.
Wanted to fight Luke Voit
Got suspended for slapping Joc Pederson ON THE FIELD over fantasy football
Called his Mets teammates lazy
Signed with Pirates in 2025, 8th team in 3 years. Got suspended and fined for pantomiming jerking off at a fan

But otherwise, he's totally a great teammate.
Read the New York times article by ken rosenthal beyond the slap everything you think you know about tommy pham you dont or watch the you tube interview with him where he breaks down the origins and research that went into the article which began after he was talking to the mets assistant hitting coach Hinske after the mets traded verlander scherzer and pham and he said the player they would miss the most and he said pham which surprised rosenthal and hinske told him to go ask lindor about him he asked lindor and lindor agreed he loved pham and said pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later he asked the DBacks GM who is the best player on the team no one talks about and he said pham. Rosenthal then started talking to people that played with coached and managed pham and yep he was loved by teammates. He said after the article was published fans were commenting nope he is a jerk and rosenthal said people that played alongside hims opinion matters more than fans perceptions. Pham is the guy who gave up a chance to be the first guy in MLB post season history to go 5-5 so Jace Peterson could pinch hit and get his first world series at bat. So yea whatever you think you know about Pham you dont. Doyle acts like a nut on the field and people are like yea thats the kind of fire we need great job getting him hes a competitor but Pham does it and people are like hes scum!
Can you put that in Copilot or Chat GPT or something to make it readable? That first sentence alone is an abuse of the English language :lol:

Check that, I did it for you:
what Ozzie probably tried to say wrote:Here's a clearer and easier-to-read version of your paragraph:

Check out the New York Times article by Ken Rosenthal titled "Beyond the Slap: Everything You Think You Know About Tommy Pham, You Don’t", or watch the YouTube interview where Pham breaks down the story behind it.

The article started after a conversation between Pham and Mets assistant hitting coach Eric Hinske. The Mets had just traded away Verlander, Scherzer, and Pham, and Rosenthal asked Hinske which player the team would miss the most. Surprisingly, Hinske said, “Pham.” That caught Rosenthal off guard. Hinske told him to go ask Francisco Lindor.

Rosenthal did, and Lindor said he loved Pham — that Pham taught him how to work harder. A few weeks later, Rosenthal asked the Diamondbacks’ GM who the most underrated player on the team was. Again, the answer was Pham.

From there, Rosenthal spoke to teammates, coaches, and managers who had worked with Pham — and they all praised him. After the article came out, some fans still dismissed Pham, calling him a jerk. But Rosenthal emphasized that the opinions of those who actually played with him mean more than fan perceptions.

For example, Pham gave up a chance to make MLB postseason history by going 5-for-5, just so teammate Jace Peterson could get his first World Series at-bat.

Bottom line: Whatever you think you know about Tommy Pham — you probably don’t.

Meanwhile, when a guy like Doyle plays with intensity, fans celebrate it and call him a competitor. But when Pham shows that same fire, people call him a problem. There’s a double standard.
You didnt need to do that read it or dont I dont really care people need to understand their perceptions of people are just that perceptions not reality
It was unreadable. I made it readable.

He’s a selfish volatile asssshole.
Volatile is the single, best description. I would do anything possible to avoid any interaction with that man.
Don't tell ozzie that, he thinks Pham is the bestest teammate a guy could ever dream of :lol:
What I think doesn’t matter what old friend thinks doesnt matter even though you think it does all that matters is what his teammates and Rosenthal did the research consulted his former teammates coaches and managers and not only was he regarded as a good teammate but he was regarded as a great teammate. You are wrong but you have the right to be wrong so continue being wrong
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Re: What is wrong with Tommy Pham?

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Pham is a gutter Human...really all you need to know about him
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