Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
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Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
well doneTalkin' Baseball wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 14:25 pmGetting new bank accounts set up.Carp4Cy wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 14:23 pmWhat exactly is Doyle doing this month?Bully4you wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 12:56 pm Top Candidates as of today: Exclude pitchers, because well, they are pitchers!!
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Burleson
4a. Nolan Gorman aka the UNiCorn **
4b. Jordan Walker **
5. Leonardo Bernal
6. Church
7. Haven't yet acquired
** I have them in the same category.
However, I think one or both might be gone in 2026.
Most likely Gorman
Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
Padilla is a true stud. Sad about his injury that lost him the last month of his season. His bat was coming alive, too.Talkin' Baseball wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 14:24 pmSomeone coming up with Rodriguez who may not make it at all, but if he does- Padilla is electric. I hope he can hit enough to make it. He's years away.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:28 pmi think Rainiel shows all the signs.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:19 pm The only potential "franchise" player (IMO) is of course JJW.
No one on the current roster even comes close to being a franchise player.
True 65plus on the Glove and Arm at SS. And 70 speed. 50 Hit....needs power, but he might...stress might grow into the power.
And he's only 17yo
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Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
Winn is a good player. But if he's your franchise player, you aren't a good team. He's not even a top 3 player on a good team.
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I think the 3 W's and Herrera may one day be all stars. Gorman could be a Schwarber type player. Cards have some fine cathcers in their system. One of them may be an all star type player. I look forward to see what the Cards have in Doyle.
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It's the bat. Have you actually seen him play? He's only 18.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:56 pmCould be an everyday player, doesn't have "franchise player" potential (IMO).hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:28 pmi think Rainiel shows all the signs.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:19 pm The only potential "franchise" player (IMO) is of course JJW.
No one on the current roster even comes close to being a franchise player.
Cardinals are loaded w/quality catching prospects.
Bloom can certainly package one w/Donny or Noot or Burleson and hopefully land a starting pitcher!
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Power is the key. To be an elite SS in today’s game 25HR minimum will be needed. 15 relegates him to a glove only player.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:59 pmThere at least six-seven current NL shortstops he's going to have to beat out w/more to come in the future.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:31 pmI'll take that bet on Winn. he's having a sophomore year. watch out next year.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:20 pmCranny wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:01 pmWetherholt, Winn, and Walker all have potential for All Star consideration. In the minors, Joshua Baez is starting to come on strong.Bully4you wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 12:56 pm Top Candidates as of today: Exclude pitchers, because well, they are pitchers!!
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Burleson
4a. Nolan Gorman aka the UNiCorn **
4b. Jordan Walker **
5. Leonardo Bernal
6. Church
7. Haven't yet acquired
** I have them in the same category.
However, I think one or both might be gone in 2026.
Most likely Gorman![]()
I'll take that bet on Winn/Walker who will likely never even sniff an all-star selection.
But I hope you're right and win this "fake" bet.![]()
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Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
What’s happening to JWalker? Thought he’d get extended runway until season’s end. Not in the lineup tonight.
But back to the question at hand: I’m putting my $$ on Walker. I think he’s getting his hitting straightened out. And once he does, I think his power will come around. I’m not as high on Herrera as some. Winn is a wonderful defensive shortstop, but he’s unlikely to hit enough to carry the team. Gorman — I don’t know. He needs to hit more, strike out less. His defense at 3rd is suspect. Other than JJ, I’m not sure there are any players worth counting on. JJ is killing minor league pitching, but until he can do it on the major league level I’ll hold off anointing him as the next superstar. The team has some good players in the majors and in the minors. Unfortunately, they all won’t be on the Big League level with best stuff at the same time.
But back to the question at hand: I’m putting my $$ on Walker. I think he’s getting his hitting straightened out. And once he does, I think his power will come around. I’m not as high on Herrera as some. Winn is a wonderful defensive shortstop, but he’s unlikely to hit enough to carry the team. Gorman — I don’t know. He needs to hit more, strike out less. His defense at 3rd is suspect. Other than JJ, I’m not sure there are any players worth counting on. JJ is killing minor league pitching, but until he can do it on the major league level I’ll hold off anointing him as the next superstar. The team has some good players in the majors and in the minors. Unfortunately, they all won’t be on the Big League level with best stuff at the same time.
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Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
Of course not but it's almost impossible to say an 18 yr old kid has "franchise potential" unless he's a phenom which Rainiel certainly is not.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 18:20 pmIt's the bat. Have you actually seen him play? He's only 18.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:56 pmCould be an everyday player, doesn't have "franchise player" potential (IMO).hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:28 pmi think Rainiel shows all the signs.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:19 pm The only potential "franchise" player (IMO) is of course JJW.
No one on the current roster even comes close to being a franchise player.
Cardinals are loaded w/quality catching prospects.
Bloom can certainly package one w/Donny or Noot or Burleson and hopefully land a starting pitcher!
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That plus a low OB%, minimal stolen bases, ect.........Youboughtit wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 18:23 pmPower is the key. To be an elite SS in today’s game 25HR minimum will be needed. 15 relegates him to a glove only player.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:59 pmThere at least six-seven current NL shortstops he's going to have to beat out w/more to come in the future.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:31 pmI'll take that bet on Winn. he's having a sophomore year. watch out next year.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:20 pmCranny wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:01 pmWetherholt, Winn, and Walker all have potential for All Star consideration. In the minors, Joshua Baez is starting to come on strong.Bully4you wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 12:56 pm Top Candidates as of today: Exclude pitchers, because well, they are pitchers!!
1. Wetherholt
2. Winn
3. Burleson
4a. Nolan Gorman aka the UNiCorn **
4b. Jordan Walker **
5. Leonardo Bernal
6. Church
7. Haven't yet acquired
** I have them in the same category.
However, I think one or both might be gone in 2026.
Most likely Gorman![]()
I'll take that bet on Winn/Walker who will likely never even sniff an all-star selection.
But I hope you're right and win this "fake" bet.![]()
I don't see the E. Renteria comps some try to make.
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Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
How many 18 year olds dominate the lower professional leagues the way Rodriguez has? you might be right and you might be wrong about him. Sure its early, but that's why he's in the discussion. Agree to disagree.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 08:32 amOf course not but it's almost impossible to say an 18 yr old kid has "franchise potential" unless he's a phenom which Rainiel certainly is not.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 18:20 pmIt's the bat. Have you actually seen him play? He's only 18.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:56 pmCould be an everyday player, doesn't have "franchise player" potential (IMO).hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:28 pmi think Rainiel shows all the signs.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:19 pm The only potential "franchise" player (IMO) is of course JJW.
No one on the current roster even comes close to being a franchise player.
Cardinals are loaded w/quality catching prospects.
Bloom can certainly package one w/Donny or Noot or Burleson and hopefully land a starting pitcher!
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Re: Is the next "Franchise Player" already on the team, in minors or have they yet to acquire
Hundreds have dominated rookie/A ball, but I hope this kid becomes a stud.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 11:59 amHow many 18 year olds dominate the lower professional leagues the way Rodriguez has? you might be right and you might be wrong about him. Sure its early, but that's why he's in the discussion. Agree to disagree.rockondlouie wrote: ↑20 Aug 2025 08:32 amOf course not but it's almost impossible to say an 18 yr old kid has "franchise potential" unless he's a phenom which Rainiel certainly is not.hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 18:20 pmIt's the bat. Have you actually seen him play? He's only 18.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:56 pmCould be an everyday player, doesn't have "franchise player" potential (IMO).hugeCardfan wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:28 pmi think Rainiel shows all the signs.rockondlouie wrote: ↑19 Aug 2025 13:19 pm The only potential "franchise" player (IMO) is of course JJW.
No one on the current roster even comes close to being a franchise player.
Cardinals are loaded w/quality catching prospects.
Bloom can certainly package one w/Donny or Noot or Burleson and hopefully land a starting pitcher!
And no sweat on opinions, I always respect yours huge.
