Philosophical Differences

[RobbieRe]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

[Hoosier59]

It’s MO’s Way or the Highway!

[scoutyjones2]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

Up yours Scouty. You need to eat your bran on a regular basis. You would be less grumpy.

[scoutyjones2]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

Up yours Scouty. You need to eat your bran on a regular basis. You would be less grumpy.

No, suffering your posts are what is irritating. The bull[shirt] of it

[Youboughtit]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

From what I have read it was Walt/Tonys belief in trading youth for veterans to win now and Mo/Dewitt wanting to go to the money ball analytic method with draft/develop. I beleive the luck of Molina and Albert had them believing they would always be able to grow stars and supplement from outside. Then the opposite happened. Now all they can develop are those role players.

[RobbieRe]

And the horse you rode in on, Scouty. Let’s improve your analytical skills. Your response reflects more on you than the poster.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

Up yours Scouty. You need to eat your bran on a regular basis. You would be less grumpy.

No, suffering your posts are what is irritating. The bull[shirt] of it

Can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. You have some smart aleck and or rude to anything you don't like. I am willing to bet you are about five feet six and weigh 250 pounds and live in your moms spare room. Something has made you a wise guy.

[scoutyjones2]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

Up yours Scouty. You need to eat your bran on a regular basis. You would be less grumpy.

No, suffering your posts are what is irritating. The bull[shirt] of it

Can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. You have some smart aleck and or rude to anything you don't like. I am willing to bet you are about five feet six and weigh 250 pounds and live in your moms spare room. Something has made you a wise guy.

Are you fantasizing about me, while describing what you see in the mirror?

Sorry to disappoint, but I don't swing that way...

[Hazelwood72]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

Up yours Scouty. You need to eat your bran on a regular basis. You would be less grumpy.

No, suffering your posts are what is irritating. The bull[shirt] of it

Can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. You have some smart aleck and or rude to anything you don't like. I am willing to bet you are about five feet six and weigh 250 pounds and live in your moms spare room. Something has made you a wise guy.

Are you fantasizing about me, while describing what you see in the mirror?

Sorry to disappoint, but I don't swing that way...

Congrats Scouty. You’re even less popular than Shady.

[MIDMOBIRDTWO]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

Yes. Your post is pathetic


Living in the past with your own made up story

Up yours Scouty. You need to eat your bran on a regular basis. You would be less grumpy.

No, suffering your posts are what is irritating. The bull[shirt] of it

Can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen. You have some smart aleck and or rude to anything you don't like. I am willing to bet you are about five feet six and weigh 250 pounds and live in your moms spare room. Something has made you a wise guy.

Are you fantasizing about me, while describing what you see in the mirror?

Sorry to disappoint, but I don't swing that way...

You are such a juvenile little fat man, run along and get your jammies on. Have a nice sleep. Get up and eat your bran so you can have a movement. It will take a lot of the grumpy out of you.

[Punkk6]

I know that Mo did not want to be challenged by his manager. He did not like Tony challenging the GM.

Seriously, was it ever revealed what the “philosophical differences” that Mo had with Mike Shildt? Was it that Shildt was challenging him — or was it Shildt’s decision making in the Cardinals’ playoff game against the Dodgers?

Pathetic.

It was all over then he benched DeJong and played Sosa during that long winning streak.

[DickyBennett]

Let me give yall a little history lesson

Back in 2011, when TLR resigned, it was apparent that BDW and Mo were absolutely overjoyed, because “The Load” was going out the door at years end.

TLR had the gravitas to challenge the GM and by proxy the owner to improve his teams and he wanted certain players here and certain players gone

Mo got a shot in at TLR by trading away Chris Duncan too

BDW and Mo starting in 2012 wanted to control everything with no backtalk from dugout, hired Matheny who was on verge of bankruptcy, hired Shildt who was quickly fired when he challenged Mo, and Marmol who is one of the youngest and lowest paid MLB managers

Toss in HackGate in 2015 when BDW and Mo played the plausible deniability card and orchestrated a back room deal with Manfred to make Correa the fall guy, don’t forget BDW chaired the committee that hired Manfred, and also the Judge in Texas didn’t allow Correa to say anything at his trial, Correa played nice, served time and I’m sure got a fat hush money wad for doing so.

It’s literally been a feces show for about a decade.

They made their bed and now they have to lay in it.

They killed a Golden Goose due to their own insecurities and poor decision making

This franchise is close to being the Pirates right now and I doubt BDW or BDW3 will give Bloom free rein to run the organization as he sees fit.

The owner and Mo have put major dent in this Organization that will be Long Lasting.

Buckle up!

[Cranny]

Let me give yall a little history lesson

Back in 2011, when TLR resigned, it was apparent that BDW and Mo were absolutely overjoyed, because “The Load” was going out the door at years end.

TLR had the gravitas to challenge the GM and by proxy the owner to improve his teams and he wanted certain players here and certain players gone

Mo got a shot in at TLR by trading away Chris Duncan too

BDW and Mo starting in 2012 wanted to control everything with no backtalk from dugout, hired Matheny who was on verge of bankruptcy, hired Shildt who was quickly fired when he challenged Mo, and Marmol who is one of the youngest and lowest paid MLB managers

Toss in HackGate in 2015 when BDW and Mo played the plausible deniability card and orchestrated a back room deal with Manfred to make Correa the fall guy, don’t forget BDW chaired the committee that hired Manfred, and also the Judge in Texas didn’t allow Correa to say anything at his trial, Correa played nice, served time and I’m sure got a fat hush money wad for doing so.

It’s literally been a feces show for about a decade.

They made their bed and now they have to lay in it.

They killed a Golden Goose due to their own insecurities and poor decision making

This franchise is close to being the Pirates right now and I doubt BDW or BDW3 will give Bloom free rein to run the organization as he sees fit.

The owner and Mo have put major dent in this Organization that will be Long Lasting.

Buckle up!

How depressing.

[desertrat23]

Let me give yall a little history lesson

Back in 2011, when TLR resigned, it was apparent that BDW and Mo were absolutely overjoyed, because “The Load” was going out the door at years end.

TLR had the gravitas to challenge the GM and by proxy the owner to improve his teams and he wanted certain players here and certain players gone

Mo got a shot in at TLR by trading away Chris Duncan too

BDW and Mo starting in 2012 wanted to control everything with no backtalk from dugout, hired Matheny who was on verge of bankruptcy, hired Shildt who was quickly fired when he challenged Mo, and Marmol who is one of the youngest and lowest paid MLB managers

Toss in HackGate in 2015 when BDW and Mo played the plausible deniability card and orchestrated a back room deal with Manfred to make Correa the fall guy, don’t forget BDW chaired the committee that hired Manfred, and also the Judge in Texas didn’t allow Correa to say anything at his trial, Correa played nice, served time and I’m sure got a fat hush money wad for doing so.

It’s literally been a feces show for about a decade.

They made their bed and now they have to lay in it.

They killed a Golden Goose due to their own insecurities and poor decision making

This franchise is close to being the Pirates right now and I doubt BDW or BDW3 will give Bloom free rein to run the organization as he sees fit.

The owner and Mo have put major dent in this Organization that will be Long Lasting.

Buckle up!

How depressing.

It is. It’s also accurate.

[Clubmaker2]

“I was so loyal to that organization, and cared so much,’’ Shildt said, “I felt an immense weight of being a caretaker of that organization. Ultimately, I put too much pressure on myself. That was my issue, not anybody else’s. I didn’t want to let Mo down. I didn’t want to let my team down. I didn’t want to let our fanbase now. I didn’t want to let the tradition of players that came before us down. I was very passionate of that, and dedicated to it, and at some level, I probably cared too much.
“There were just some things that I felt could be better, and I thought I was in a safe place to share them. Clearly, I wasn’t.’’

La Russa, who spent 16 years as the Cardinals manager with two World Series titles before returning to manage the Chicago White Sox, said he heard a comment from someone in the Cardinals’ organization that Shildt was fired because of a “toxic environment.’’
“That one frosted my (donkey),’’ La Russa said. “My comment was that if it was toxic, it must be in the front office. … I’m for the Cardinals. Everybody makes their own decision. But when you start talking about that, it might damage his chance to manage again for those that don’t know any better. He did a hell of a job.
“Philosophical differences? Ok. But toxic?
“He’s a special guy. That’s why it’s so important for his reputation to be intact and not smeared.’’