Nathan Church

[clayton888]

I don’t understand why Church hasn’t been promoted and playing centerfield. He has torn up AAA/AA and plays at least as good an outfield as Scott and Scott, as the Fox announcers said last Friday, is the second worst offensive producer in MLB. It’s past time to move on there and give Church a six week look.

[Futuregm2]

I don’t understand why Church hasn’t been promoted and playing centerfield. He has torn up AAA/AA and plays at least as good an outfield as Scott and Scott, as the Fox announcers said last Friday, is the second worst offensive producer in MLB. It’s past time to move on there and give Church a six week look.

If he plays at least as good of an OF as Scott then he must be the best CF in the game. Scott ranks 3rd in OAA among all MLB OFers behind PCA and Ceddanne Rafaela.

Scott’s biggest issue right now is power. His BB rate is nearly 10%, he has 31 SBs in 33 attempts, and he’s playing a stellar CF defense. If he could hit for any power (.307 SLG%), he’d be fine.

[Charles King]

Scott needs to work on bunting
If he could get a few bunt hits a week

[JDW]

VS2 with the 3rd best current position player bWAR on the team with a +2.0 bWAR.
Yes, I want to see improvement, but the team has bigger issues.
That said, If Church or Baez can earn CF playing time at the MLB level over VS2, that'd be great.

[CorneliusWolfe]

I don’t understand why Church hasn’t been promoted and playing centerfield. He has torn up AAA/AA and plays at least as good an outfield as Scott and Scott, as the Fox announcers said last Friday, is the second worst offensive producer in MLB. It’s past time to move on there and give Church a six week look.

He must be on the typical six-year “see what we got in him” plan.

[greyhawk]

i realize he isn't on the 40 man roster but why are Hampson and Siani on it still?? this one is baffling as to why he hasn't gotten some run.

[cosmo.kramer]

Gotta wait until the 15th at least for rookie status

[greyhawk]

Gotta wait until the 15th at least for rookie status

isn't that just if you think he might win rookie of the year next season? do we think he has that kind of potential?

[cosmo.kramer]

Gotta wait until the 15th at least for rookie status

isn't that just if you think he might win rookie of the year next season? do we think he has that kind of potential?

No, it's so you get an additional year of control at the back end

[Hoosier59]

As I stated in a different thread, Victor has to learn, and accept, what type of hitter he is. Right now, he’s trying to pull almost everything, and hit the ball hard. That’s probably not all his fault,Almost all hitters are taught to just hit the ball hard. In his case, however, sometimes to just slap the ball the other way and use his speed would be better for him. He has enough power to keep the outfielders playing him honest, and not cheat too far in.
I think back on Brett Butler, who had a very good career. He was an excellent bunter, and slap type hitter, who could turn on a pitch when he wanted to. If Victor would try and immolate Butler, he could become a good lead off hitter.
I have to wonder, though, what is he being told and directed to do? The Cardinals haven’t necessarily earned our trust recently on how they have handled other young hitters!

[greyhawk]

Gotta wait until the 15th at least for rookie status

isn't that just if you think he might win rookie of the year next season? do we think he has that kind of potential?

No, it's so you get an additional year of control at the back end

if it weren't only 3 days away i would think this wouldn't be a consideration either but ok.

[cosmo.kramer]

Gotta wait until the 15th at least for rookie status

isn't that just if you think he might win rookie of the year next season? do we think he has that kind of potential?

No, it's so you get an additional year of control at the back end

if it weren't only 3 days away i would think this wouldn't be a consideration either but ok.

It just has to do with the CBA. It used to be in May/June every season with the super two status etc, but now the dynamic is mid-August

[Hoosier59]

As I stated in a different thread, Victor has to learn, and accept, what type of hitter he is. Right now, he’s trying to pull almost everything, and hit the ball hard. That’s probably not all his fault,Almost all hitters are taught to just hit the ball hard. In his case, however, sometimes to just slap the ball the other way and use his speed would be better for him. He has enough power to keep the outfielders playing him honest, and not cheat too far in.
I think back on Brett Butler, who had a very good career. He was an excellent bunter, and slap type hitter, who could turn on a pitch when he wanted to. If Victor would try and immolate Butler, he could become a good lead off hitter.
I have to wonder, though, what is he being told and directed to do? The Cardinals haven’t necessarily earned our trust recently on how they have handled other young hitters!

And there he is hitting the first pitch, a lazy fly ball to the RF’er.

[scoutyjones2]

Gotta wait until the 15th at least for rookie status

isn't that just if you think he might win rookie of the year next season? do we think he has that kind of potential?

Yes

[hugeCardfan]

I believe that Church's arrival is imminent.

[Basil Shabazz]

Church should be up in place of Hampson right now.

Does it matter that Hampson hits RH when he can't hit?