Nice post and welcome!Hartfan1 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 11:13 am Brewers fan here. Lurk here fairly often just to keep tabs on the Cards as a competitor in the NL Central. It's worth noting that Chourio has 2 club option years @ $25M per season so could be a 10y/132M contract when all is said and done.
Brewers did similar deals with Freddy Peralta and Aaron Ashby and rumor is they are trying to do the same with Misiorowski. Clearly, it is a risk, but so far it has worked out for the Brewers. Chourio has an incredible ceiling if he can improve his swing decisions.
Wetherholt seems to be the real deal. I have a keen interest in his development as I pulled his 2/3 Firefractor Bowman First Auto. I ended up selling it for a good chunk of change on EBay, but if he continues to be a stud, I'm going to regret not getting more!
Still have a great deal of respect for the Cards organization as I've wanted the Brewers to emulate the Cards for years prior to the Brewers being competitive and surpassing the Cards in recent history. Anyway, I'll disappear back into the weeds, but thought I had something to contribute here.
Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
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Re: Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
Re: Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
The Cardinals need hitters.Cardly wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 14:05 pm Whetherholt is compared to Matt Carpenter and JD Drew. Some of us are old enough to remember both well. Neither were worth rushing to sign to long term deals. There is currently not one member of this team, in the minors or majors, that needs to be extended!
IF JJ could bring another Adam Wainwright to the Cards as the JD Drew trade did, let’s make that deal!
Wetherholt appears to be a hitter.
Don’t trade him.
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Re: Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
Exactly! This is evidence of fans of a failing franchise grasping at anything possible. This is the same franchise whose farm system has been pathetic for many years. Whenever there is one little sign or some glimmer of hope of one individual people just lose their minds on wanting to sign the guy before he makes an MLB at bat. Mind boggling. I hate to break it to people but this one batter will not make this a great or even decent team.Cardly wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 14:05 pm Whetherholt is compared to Matt Carpenter and JD Drew. Some of us are old enough to remember both well. Neither were worth rushing to sign to long term deals. There is currently not one member of this team, in the minors or majors, that needs to be extended!
IF JJ could bring another Adam Wainwright to the Cards as the JD Drew trade did, let’s make that deal!
Re: Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
I live in rural Fond du Lac area between Milwaukee and Green Bay. Thanks!ramfandan wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 12:41 pmNice to see your participation . Formerly lived in eastern Wisconsin for years . What area do you reside ?Hartfan1 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 11:13 am Brewers fan here. Lurk here fairly often just to keep tabs on the Cards as a competitor in the NL Central. It's worth noting that Chourio has 2 club option years @ $25M per season so could be a 10y/132M contract when all is said and done.
Brewers did similar deals with Freddy Peralta and Aaron Ashby and rumor is they are trying to do the same with Misiorowski. Clearly, it is a risk, but so far it has worked out for the Brewers. Chourio has an incredible ceiling if he can improve his swing decisions.
Wetherholt seems to be the real deal. I have a keen interest in his development as I pulled his 2/3 Firefractor Bowman First Auto. I ended up selling it for a good chunk of change on EBay, but if he continues to be a stud, I'm going to regret not getting more!
Still have a great deal of respect for the Cards organization as I've wanted the Brewers to emulate the Cards for years prior to the Brewers being competitive and surpassing the Cards in recent history. Anyway, I'll disappear back into the weeds, but thought I had something to contribute here.
Re: Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
Exactly. Couldn’t leave that $ on the table. Cards haven’t been hitting home runs in developing prospects lately either. Not trying to take a shot at the organization, but it did factor into my decision to sell.Cardinals4Life wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 13:55 pm45 needs to read this!Hartfan1 wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 11:13 am Brewers fan here. Lurk here fairly often just to keep tabs on the Cards as a competitor in the NL Central. It's worth noting that Chourio has 2 club option years @ $25M per season so could be a 10y/132M contract when all is said and done.
Brewers did similar deals with Freddy Peralta and Aaron Ashby and rumor is they are trying to do the same with Misiorowski. Clearly, it is a risk, but so far it has worked out for the Brewers. Chourio has an incredible ceiling if he can improve his swing decisions.
Wetherholt seems to be the real deal. I have a keen interest in his development as I pulled his 2/3 Firefractor Bowman First Auto. I ended up selling it for a good chunk of change on EBay, but if he continues to be a stud, I'm going to regret not getting more!
Still have a great deal of respect for the Cards organization as I've wanted the Brewers to emulate the Cards for years prior to the Brewers being competitive and surpassing the Cards in recent history. Anyway, I'll disappear back into the weeds, but thought I had something to contribute here.
Basically you took the guaranteed money now for the J.J. card. But had you waited you might have gotten more or possibly a lot less. It's the exact same scenario as the topic we are discussing!!
Re: Would Bloom consider signing Wetherholt to long term deal ?
I for one would like to see him get his first hit in the ML's before anointing him and locking him in for a decaderamfandan wrote: ↑08 Aug 2025 09:48 am How aggressive might Chiam Bloom be in locking up JJ Wetherholt ?
https://reviewingthebrew.com/latest-bom ... k22ftyr58a
Two years ago the Brewers signed rookie Jackson Chourio to an 8 yr.-$82 M deal just prior to his rookie year. The other day Boston Red Sox signed rookie Roman Anthony also to an 8 yr. deal but for $130M
In Brewers case, they signed Chourio before he played any games at MLB level. In Boston, they waited to see Anthony play in 46 games before signing him long term. He slashed .276/.392/.417 in two months ..which raised his price tag on his extension. So the Brewers saved nearly $50 M on their Chourio deal by taking a risk .
As the article above stated, the Brewers with a smaller payroll can take that $50 M to sign other arb players and others. Pretty significant dollar amount. It's how much risk the POBO wishes to take. Brewers GM Matt Arnold rolled the dice and bought out his two years of Chourio's free agency and looks like quite the steal .
For those less willing to risk a deal like that , it would be 'Oh, no .. think if we had signed Jordan Walker to a deal like that . Boy, would that look bad right now. Very true and good point ! So the next question becomes , because Jordan didn't make it big early should that have you shy away from ever offering a Chourio deal to another guy in your system. Would that make you gun shy to ever be bold ?
As you can see with the Anthony deal , just to see Anthony play 46 games this year , it in effect cost them $50 M more than the Brewers paid Chourio who signed him long term prior to spring training and rookie season .
A poster on CT said I would wait til JJ has 3 years under his belt . On the plus side , you would have quite the body of work and stats on his hopeful success. On the negative side, if JJ has 3 very good years the $$$ it would cost to sign him long term would be huge. Certainly a ton more than the $10 M per year the Brewers are shelling out for Chourio for 8 years with them.
So whether you are more a risk taker ala Brewers Matt Arnold , 2024 MLB Executive of the Year, and somewhat like Red Sox in signing Anthony , do you think Bloom may pull off something similar. It's happened twice now two years back to back with Brewers and Red Sox ?
It's an interesting question . With a smaller payroll to work with, a risk with Wetherholt could be a great deal. Likewise , if he doesn't play like a Chourio or close to it , it could be a bad deal as well.
There are two ways to look at the question posed . One way is ... If it was ME , I would or would not sign JJ long term early and another way may be I would not do it but I think Bloom may take the risk. Guess a 3rd option is ' I would lock up JJ but don't think Bloom will do it . Your thoughts